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‘…you may never again look at any New Age movement based upon “divine” or “extraterrestrial” revelations in quite the same way.’ Fortean Times
A statement of Plato seems to show, that in his day the Egyptian Osiris was regarded as identical to Tammuz; and Tammuz is well known to have been the same as Adonis, the famous Huntsman, for whose death Venus is fabled to have made such bitter lamentations. As the women of Egypt wept for Osiris, as the Phenician and Assyrian women wept for Tammuz, so in Greece and Rome the women wept for Bacchus, whose name, as we have seen, means 'The bewailed,' or 'Lamented one.'" (p. 56) Watching closely the developments in Egypt are many modern worshippers of Osiris, such as the Skull & Bones initiates of the George Bush family. George Bush, Jr., the Governor of Texas, coincidentally announced his candidacy for President the same day as the TV-staged discovery of the tomb of Osiris, while George Bush Sr. plans to be at the Egyptian pyramids on New Year's Eve 1999.
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
reply to post by PurpleChiten
So that's how you deal with an issue -- ignore it and say "move along"? That's called censorship and being a thug.
The pentagram (pentacle or pentalpha) is considered by some western occultists to trace its esoteric significance to an astronomical observance of the pattern of Venus' conjunctions with the Sun. This is not possible.
This means that the pentagram figure is slowly revolving within an oval in a clockwise direction, alternating either one or two points ascendant roughly every 160 years. There is no observation point on Earth that would present a regular pentagram. Moving further north elongates the figure while on the equator the figure is an irregular pentagon.
Note that Venus is not travelling in a straight line from point to point. The lines are a construct determined by the observer. Any running set of observation times other than those tied to the synodic period of Venus would create a recursive pattern such as that shown below.
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The Maya incorporated the Venus cycle as one of the principle cycles of their calendar. They had an intense interest in Venus. During the course of their civilization, Venus was the harbinger of the annual rains and the marker for the planting of the maize crop. But, the cycle was slipping slowly out of alignment by almost two days over an eight-year period. Gradually, the marker no longer coincided with the advent of the rains. The priest-astronmers of the various temple complexes were aware of this and compensated for it, following by direct observation. They certainly had the temple complexes lined up to the sky that was a great help.
The orbits of Venus and Earth behave like kicked pendulums upon each other as determined by the science of chaos. This occurs when Venus cuts between the Earth and the sun, just before that moment where the very first helical rising of the morning star occurs. The three bodies interact gravitationally, with the Earth and Venus interacting on each other in a manner ascribed to kicked pendulums. The Maya are noted for having a dread fear of this particular event.
Interestingly enough, the Maya warriors would plan war as Venus approach superior conjunction. But the Maya are not alone in their dread of Venus. According to Velikovsky, Venus caused great dread in the past, but likely not in the way he suggested. It is interesting that one of the Milanokovich cycles matches one of the great Venus cycles and the fact that planets can act like kicked pendulums with one another. The key is resonance. None of the planetary orbits are in exact discreet orbital resonance with one another, which is good for orbital stability.
Venus and Earth have several near misses until, at 3.352891 billion years, the two planets collide in an epic explosion that would destroy both worlds.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
While the number sequence was known to mathematicians much earlier than his existence, he was the one who made it famous to the Western world through his book the Liber Abaci (Book of Calculations).
Starting with "0, 1", the sequence is created by the next number equaling the sum of the previous two numbers. The sequence is as followed: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765, 10946, etc.
Some of you may also be familiar with the Fibonacci Spiral:
Photo origination.
Many people believe that this Fibonacci sequence is the fundamental core for nature and its creations. There is much evidence of this available. The anatomic structure of humans follows the ratio of these numbers, from the body as a whole, to the details of the face, even our DNA shows Fibonacci number relations! The shell of the iconic Nautilus sea creature follows these numbers (Fibonacci Spiral). Many flowers and plants. Some musical instruments follow this as well (while they are man-made, it is interesting to note that implementing the Fibonacci sequence into the design of a musical instrument gives it the best and most "natural" tone.
Saturday, May 26, 2012
The Fibonacci
Named after Leonardo Pisano Bigollo
While the number sequence was known [...] to mathematicians much earlier than his existence, he was the one who made it famous to the Western world through his book the Liber Abaci (Book of Calculations)
Starting with " 0, 1", the sequence is created by the next number equaling the sum of the previous two numbers. The sequence is as followed: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765, 10946, etc. Some of you may also be familiar with the Fibonacci Spiral.
Many people believe that this Fibonacci sequence is the fundamental core for nature and its creations. There is much evidence of this available. The anatomic structure of humans follows the ratio of these numbers, from the body as a whole, to the details of the face, even our DNA shows Fibonacci number relations! The shell of the iconic Nautilus sea creature follows these numbers (Fibonacci Spiral). Many flowers and plants. Some musical instruments follow this as well (while they are man-made, it is interesting to note that implementing the Fibonacci sequence into the design of a musical instrument gives it the best and most "natural" tone.
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
reply to post by NotAnAspie
You cut into the middle of the interview and then jumped to some weird conclusion? haha.
‘…you may never again look at any New Age movement based upon “divine” or “extraterrestrial” revelations in quite the same way.’ Fortean Times
The above podcast interview is with the authors of this book the Stargate Conspiracy
A 2nd podcast interview about the Stargate Conspiracy book.
Here's a good overview of the book
edit on 27-5-2012 by fulllotusqigong because: (no reason given)
Should note here that Venus and Earth are not in a resonance, but rather their orbital periods are simply near ratios of 13:8. A resonance involves much more dynamic interactions between bodies, it's a lot more than just an orbital period ratio.
The 8:13 ratio is only approximate. It would have to be exact over the long run for there to be a physical resonance due to gravitational interactions resulting from the celestial mechanics. There are a few true resonances in the solar system, e.g. Mercury’s axial rotation or the three inner Galilean satellites. But most are only approximations, e.g. Jupiter/Saturn 2:5 orbital periods. Approximate “resonances” with ratios involving relatively small integers can be devised for almost any comparisons of orbital periods. They are generally not the consequences of orbital mechanics, but of ordinary mathematical manipulations.
But the masses of Earth and Venus are so small and their spatial separations are so large that an exact resonance has not been able to develop during more than four billion years. Perturbations from other bodies such as Jupiter upset the process. Numerical integrations going forward a few million years show no further tendency toward an exact ratio in this case. Generally, true resonances involve ratios comparing integers no greater than 3.
Next conjunction I plan to move from my previous position to a location about 100 feet higher, thereby shifting the Earth's center of gravity and ruining the "perfect" pentagram as well as the "exact" alignment. Actually I won't have to do that, since the Earth's center of gravity is constantly shifting all the time. Same deal re the geometric center.
Whenever Venus and Earth arrive at the closest point in their orbits, Venus always presents the same face to us. This could mean that Earth's gravity is tugging subtly on Venus, affecting its rotation rate. That idea, raised decades ago, was disregarded when it turned out that Venus is spinning too fast to be in such a gravitational "resonance". But Earth could still be pulling on Venus by controlling its core, according to calculations by Gérard Caudal of the University of Versailles-Saint Quentin (Journal of Geophysical Research, in press). Caudal made large assumptions about Venus's interior, which we know little about.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
reply to post by Mary Rose
Hmm.. no actually that is not my blog. I don't have a blog. But that is eerily close to my post... A day after my post you say, too? I wonder if they grabbed that from my post.
ETA: In fact, that is exactly my post =/ Thanks for bringing it to my attention.edit on 27-5-2012 by ErroneousDylan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
reply to post by Mary Rose
Hmm.. no actually that is not my blog. I don't have a blog. But that is eerily close to my post... A day after my post you say, too? I wonder if they grabbed that from my post.
ETA: In fact, that is exactly my post =/ Thanks for bringing it to my attention.edit on 27-5-2012 by ErroneousDylan because: (no reason given)
Wow, I just checked that blog and every single post on there is plagarized from somewhere else. Do they have Terms of Service for that site?