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House Votes to Cut Food Stamps to Avoid Defense Reduction

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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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It is not the federal government's job to feed America


Is it their job to help a select few gain more money then they will ever need by removing job opportunities, production and reasonable cost of goods from the US.
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Well the Prez could remove his involvement in Libya which that Republican Congress did not vote for and approve. Just think how much money it would save not helping the people in Libya with our military might. Tell me again why it is important for us to be there ? People try to paint Republicans as war mongering haters of the people but somehow when Democrats are behind these actions it becomes the act of saviors of the people.
According to Jay Carney, Democrats seem to feel that a conservative budget is "Outside the mainstream" of America.
Speaker Boehner on the budget


House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) issued the following statement on President Obama’s budget speech today:
“Our country faces serious economic and fiscal challenges. Americans continue to be disappointed that the president is shrinking from those challenges rather than displaying the courage needed to solve them. Instead of reaching across the aisle to enact the changes needed to restore America’s prosperity, the president has resorted to distortions and partisan pot-shots, and recommitted himself to policies that have made our country’s debt crisis worse. He’s so unserious about our country’s problems that he’s offered a budget that failed to garner a single vote in the U.S. House of Representatives or the U.S. Senate. And his own party leadership in the Senate hasn’t passed a budget in more than 1,000 days.


“House Republicans, led by Chairman Ryan, passed a responsible budget that would help put Americans back to work, protect our seniors, close President Obama’s massive budget deficits, and do ‘all of the above’ to address high gas prices. It makes the tough choices the president refuses to make to address the staggering deficits and debt that are slowing our economic recovery, costing jobs, and threatening to destroy the American dream."


johnboehner.house.gov...
By the way, is the military just running itself outside of the scope of Commander in Chief? Or do you think the Republicans are somehow running all the military activity?

Here's a hint, the top military brass are CFR, and in fact so is the Prez at present. Just so you know CFR tend to be members of both parties.
www.mediaite.com...


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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by CB328
Why is it that people have been warning for years that the Republicans only care about money, yet people still vote for them?? Americans have cut our own throat out of stupidity.


But they're God fearing people and defend the American way....

*sarcasm*
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Whilst I see the revulsion and disgust at this, I'm amazed that people are surprised?!

Feed the peasant or wage war? It's a no brainier and has been since the dawn of time. Social justice is a beautiful concept but humans are too selfish to deliver it in earnest.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Ok if they really cut foodstamps, they should stop taking money out of my f-in CHECK!!! I want the money they steal from me to go the poor!!!!! Not nukes!!! And what part don't you people get, USA wants to controll the world! And make the entire world USP( United States Planet)
That's more important to them than feeding hungry kids!

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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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Hey... it's just the right-wingers getting their way as usual.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Honestly, there are way to many people getting food stamps that shouldnt. I was in line last week buying stuff for my 7 year old and me, and the person in front of me was buying steaks with food stamps, and paid cash for $150 worth of hard liquor. And as I left the store, there they were, loading up a brand new Mercedes SUV in a handicap space, with no handicap plate or sticker.
Mean while I scrape by on hamburger helper hoping gas prices dont go up so I can still pay all my bills and rent.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by roadgravel

It is not the federal government's job to feed America


Is it their job to help a select few gain more money then they will ever need by removing job opportunities, production and reasonable cost of goods from the US.
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Um, no.

That's why I think we need to make a radical change in what the federal government is doing. In MANY regards.

But the one thing I know is that the government should not be handing out money OR protecting cronies.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by coop039
Honestly, there are way to many people getting food stamps that shouldnt. I was in line last week buying stuff for my 7 year old and me, and the person in front of me was buying steaks with food stamps, and paid cash for $150 worth of hard liquor. And as I left the store, there they were, loading up a brand new Mercedes SUV in a handicap space, with no handicap plate or sticker.
Mean while I scrape by on hamburger helper hoping gas prices dont go up so I can still pay all my bills and rent.


Is someone paying you to say this? I keep hearing this same generic story, though similarly unconvincing (and almost like a copy) every single time.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Every election cycle you see the newspaper headlines scream DEMOCRATS WIN!! Or they scream REPUBLICANS WIN!! But they never, never, never scream AMERICANS WIN!!

The reason for that is when DEMOCRATS and REPUBLICANS get elected, AMERICANS ARE SCREWED!!

I hate hearing the right and the left blame each other and point their fingers at each other when it is ALL OF THEM who have sold our country down the drain for their thirty pieces of silver.

STOP ELECTING THIEVING, WHORE MONGERING, LYING DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IF YOU WANT A BETTER FUTURE FOR AMERICA AND THE WORLD!



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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I hope they need that defense money for gas to get the troops home.

I'm now working in a little variety store that sells groceries. I run a lot of EBT cards every day. Something weird is going on. I guess you're going to say "unemployment". However, the users also buy items not covered by EBT. They have smart phones, and the ladies obviously spend time at the salon. I'm all about economic equality, but I think we've created some monsters on both extremes of wealth.

BTW, the users rarely tell me they're swiping an EBT card, so we have to start over. They know they have to tell anyone who has a user operated swiper. Are the users ashamed?

Some of them buy loads of pop and candy with their EBT. What is going on?
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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You see, the US military is one of the four foundation pillars of the corrupt globalist cartel. The people are just an overly abundant resource to TPTB, the US military is indispensable in their continious war-mongering and war profiteering grand scheme for the purpose of world dominace.

The "City of london", not london, is the tool for financial control through the Rothchild central banking monopoly. The Vatican is the center for religious control and the "Washington District of Colombia" is the tool for Military control.

All independent and not operating under the same laws as the rest of the counties.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy

Originally posted by coop039
Honestly, there are way to many people getting food stamps that shouldnt. I was in line last week buying stuff for my 7 year old and me, and the person in front of me was buying steaks with food stamps, and paid cash for $150 worth of hard liquor. And as I left the store, there they were, loading up a brand new Mercedes SUV in a handicap space, with no handicap plate or sticker.
Mean while I scrape by on hamburger helper hoping gas prices dont go up so I can still pay all my bills and rent.


Is someone paying you to say this? I keep hearing this same generic story, though similarly unconvincing (and almost like a copy) every single time.


I was thinking the exact same thing



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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We all know we are gearing for war with Iran! What do you expect? Just wait until Obamney takes the reins, I bet its will just be a matter of weeks or days even before the invasion is under way!

Its nice to know just how F'N owned we are! I guess all these commit to be fit programs by the DOD for my first grader are just grooming for the long war to come! When my country starts to remind me of Nazi Germany I think it is time to panic, and brother I am panicking!

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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Shadowalker

Originally posted by petrus4

Originally posted by buster2010
This really shows what kind of anti American scum we have running our government. No money to help Americans but we can spend billions killing people who never did anything to us just so we can protect those who spy, steal and murder Americans. Everyone of these traitors need to be lined up and shot.


While I can empathise with your anger, shooting people is not going to solve the current problem.



Urban Farming

Growing Power

The answers are out there, people. When the government fails you, you have to step up to the plate. This is being done by people in cities all over America. Get involved, and leave the myopia of the military industrial complex behind. That problem, like all problems, will eventually solve itself.


I have been less than impressed with a lot of your posts....except this one. Well said. Time to get off your buns and make it happen. Thats what this country has always been about. somehow in the last 20 years everyone forgot.


"The answers are out there, people. When the government fails you, you have to step up to the plate."


Care to share how much it costs to build a greenhouse? Care to tell me where I can find the free land to build it on? Care to tell me how I can avoid taxes on the property since I don't work? I couldn't even afford to build a closet sized version of one. Even if I could, it's not going to provide me with enough food for my 4 children for a year. Great idea... I get it. But you have to have money to start it. Where are people on food stamps supposed to get this money?

I didn't mean that I literally don't work... but rather if I build one of those and solely eat from it, then I must also raise cattle or chicken as a protein source... eventually that becomes my own job. But I still have to pay taxes to the state for my land... so I guess I have to sell some food to people. I now become a business, have to pay taxes on my business in addition... lets not forget insurance for owning an at home business. You expect people that can't afford food to be able to accomplish this today? Really???
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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It high time for some radical restructuring of all the armed forces under one chain. Yeoman and paper pushers (very important) need to be 1 section that serves all former "branches". Army jobs, air force jobs, all the other branches have personnel assigned IAW qual codes. For example, if a Coast Guardsman wanted to become a tank driver, he wouldn't have to switch branches of service, he just attends the appropriate training and schooling to attain the qual code. Then he is available for any of those billets. Once transferred into that billet, then it's obviously full time training and his functions on a ship are over unless he put in for a transfer back into any other billet he has a qual code for (or gets training to attain).

So much duplication of services. Each branch has supply office personnel, personnel records personnel, cooks, etc. all doing almost identical generic tasks five times in parallel, one for each branch.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by coop039
Honestly, there are way to many people getting food stamps that shouldnt. I was in line last week buying stuff for my 7 year old and me, and the person in front of me was buying steaks with food stamps, and paid cash for $150 worth of hard liquor. And as I left the store, there they were, loading up a brand new Mercedes SUV in a handicap space, with no handicap plate or sticker.
Mean while I scrape by on hamburger helper hoping gas prices dont go up so I can still pay all my bills and rent.


One example is a heck of a lot.

I've never seen this. I've seen people purchase alcohol with their own money while using food stamps... sure. I've also seen them have a decent looking car. Who knows... that same car may also be facing neglect under the hood because they can't afford repairs.

I'm possibly facing job loss as I'm a DoD civilian... and even I would rather for these programs to stick around while losing my job rather than more people suffering.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by SilentKillah
Care to share how much it costs to build a greenhouse? Care to tell me where I can find the free land to build it on? Care to tell me how I can avoid taxes on the property since I don't work? I couldn't even afford to build a closet sized version of one. Even if I could, it's not going to provide me with enough food for my 4 children for a year. Great idea... I get it. But you have to have money to start it. Where are people on food stamps supposed to get this money?

We have to band together. It's kind of hard, as most people are clannish. A lot of people discriminate. I live in redneck country, so I know that's not going to change overnight. There have been religious, militant, sexual, and just plain old socialist communes. I think in order to start, we're going to have to identify and describe ourselves and meet up with like minded people to pool our resources. Perhaps these different factions could form an "off grid alliance" for protection and exchange. Maybe, when we strip off the propaganda and convenience of society, we might find we can get along. In the mean time, I think we have some common enemies. Will that work?

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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy

Originally posted by coop039
Honestly, there are way to many people getting food stamps that shouldnt. I was in line last week buying stuff for my 7 year old and me, and the person in front of me was buying steaks with food stamps, and paid cash for $150 worth of hard liquor. And as I left the store, there they were, loading up a brand new Mercedes SUV in a handicap space, with no handicap plate or sticker.
Mean while I scrape by on hamburger helper hoping gas prices dont go up so I can still pay all my bills and rent.


Is someone paying you to say this? I keep hearing this same generic story, though similarly unconvincing (and almost like a copy) every single time.


Lol! No one is paying me. It happens, frequently. I have seen it more then once. Why do people have such a hard time beleiving this?


Seriously, go to a grocery store and just watch how many people today pay with EBT cards. Its a crazy amount. I was just talking to a friend who lives in Kirksville last month as he saw someone doing and they were driving a Caddy suv. People, open your eyes, the welfare system is being abused.
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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This makes me ill also I know alot of families who need food stamps because theri paychecks just dont cut it,but as the republicans ruthlessly work to strip every last dime and area of help from every person making less then 250,000 a year or so without touching their incomes like maybe a small tax increase, as they so happily truely believe they are doing right, yet us less then rich people see what they are doing. and November 4th is not that far away all that is happening is republicans are gold plating the road for the democrats to run the entire government, which is a bad idea in itself no one party should ever have complete control, the republicans have lost touch with reality and need to go. we need another new political party to have a balanced government, heck we need 2 new parties what am I saying one. anyhow they are screwing themselves and dont even realize it.




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