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Originally posted by Wide-Eyes
Great OP, it's nice to see someone actually put some thought and projection into an anti-Ron Paul post.
I feel it's all an impossible dream.
Originally posted by MrRamblinRose
My question to you sir, is what exactly is it your helping with by bashing a guy like Ron Paul?
Originally posted by Wide-Eyes
reply to post by MrRamblinRose
I am a RP supporter but I see the difficulties here. Let's say he gets elected, then what. Where the hell does he start and how much pain will be caused along the way? It's so difficult because there is such a huge mess to clean up! The pain along the way is gonna be very, very hard along the way.
Don't get me wrong, no pain, no gain but I think a lot of people seem to think it will be instant change. There is no such thing.
This OP has really opened my eyes to the real problems that are faced.
Ron Paul for prez! Just be prepared for hardship to make things better.
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Wide-Eyes
reply to post by MrRamblinRose
I am a RP supporter but I see the difficulties here. Let's say he gets elected, then what. Where the hell does he start and how much pain will be caused along the way? It's so difficult because there is such a huge mess to clean up! The pain along the way is gonna be very, very hard along the way.
Don't get me wrong, no pain, no gain but I think a lot of people seem to think it will be instant change. There is no such thing.
This OP has really opened my eyes to the real problems that are faced.
Ron Paul for prez! Just be prepared for hardship to make things better.
Exactly and there is something fishy always about the topic of Change... Weather it be good to some and bad for others, why is this change supposedly soooo good? Will it work? What if it doesn't work. The RP cult is really truly sure that RP will do all these things, so they ask. "What if it does work?" I have grown from that mind set, and now all times I ask, what if it doesn't work?
Originally posted by MrRamblinRose
reply to post by jjf3rd77
You'd be wrong sir, i am an actual Libertarian who is voting for the actual libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. I just don't see the point in being against someone like Ron Paul who despite his shortcomings is really the last honest guy in congress. I mean why out of the 2 is Romney the proven liar a better choice than Paul the consistent truth teller?
DId Thomas Jefferson have a catch?
edit on 11-5-2012 by MrRamblinRose because: Edit to add to first paragraph.
Originally posted by MrRamblinRose
reply to post by jjf3rd77
You'd be wrong sir, i am an actual Libertarian who is voting for the actual libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. I just don't see the point in being against someone like Ron Paul who despite his shortcomings is really the last honest guy in congress. I mean why out of the 2 is Romney the proven liar a better choice than Paul the consistent truth teller?
DId Thomas Jefferson have a catch?
edit on 11-5-2012 by MrRamblinRose because: Edit to add to first paragraph.
Originally posted by MrRamblinRose
reply to post by jjf3rd77
I don't believe any of that qualified as a "catch".
Originally posted by Germanicus
Awesome post.
I agree with what you are saying. The way the political system is set up in the United States nothing gets done. Ron Paul will be able to blame congress for his lack of change in his first term. I dont think he will have a second term because he is more likely to die from old age than be assassinated. And yeah,people should remember the tears of joy when Obama was elected. Ron Paul does not deserve a free pass. Most Ron Paul supporters will ignore any criticism of Paul.
Ron Paul is the best of a bad bunch. There is alot to like about Ron Paul. The worst thing about Ron Paul are his cultish lemming supporters.edit on 10-5-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MrRamblinRose
reply to post by jjf3rd77
The reason i commended him in the first place was because of the Declaration of independence. I don't think it's fair to fault him for not having a big role in the constitution, he already single handedly wrote one of the greatest documents ever to exist.
Originally posted by Wide-Eyes
reply to post by jjf3rd77
It's quite funny too because I saw your posts jj and thought, 'uh, spunkface'! But now you have presented this solid theory, I respect you.
Tell me though, what do you think a solid vote would be? For the good of the country, and why?