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"Let me restate, I have payed the necessary amount, at this time, to cover any accidents, that are not life-ending, that I may cause in the future."
Originally posted by scoobdude
Not sure this has been covered, but here are a few points.
1) you are only co-owner of your vehicle(s) therefor
2) you must pay the state to drive the vehicle (registration) therefore
3) you must have insurance (since you entered into a contract with the state when you bought it with the "certificate of title") therefore
4) The other owner of the vehicle demands you pay for all upkeep of said vehicle(s) inspection
How do you get out of paying insurance? By OWNING your car with a CERTIFICATE OF OWNERSHIP (must buy car outright). In texas from my understanding you are also no longer bound to have insurance, registration, inspection or a license to drive it based upon the argument that you have a RIGHT TO TRAVEL and that the term automobile is a "vehicle used in commerce"
Be prepared for all kinds of legal battles if you choose this router however.
Another point I am hoping to see addressed soon is IF obamacare gets shut down as illegal, then would the same apply to insurance (state vs federal blah blah blah), but i see a good argument if obamacare is shut down.
Again this is all a limited understanding. Look up Micahel Badnarik's online constituation course on youtube. Lots of info in there but it is 8 hours longedit on 5-5-2012 by scoobdude because: (no reason given)edit on 5-5-2012 by scoobdude because: (no reason given)edit on 5-5-2012 by scoobdude because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wishful1gnorance
How have you become so indocrinated that your response to topics like this is, "oh, well everyone is getting screwed, just deal with it." You know that's the lazy sh*t attitude that got us into this mess in the first place, god forbid the next generation actually try and do something about. OBVIOUSLY I am not your average 25 year old. Maybe I'd like to make a change by actually doing something about by, ta da.. "Brainstorming!" as my first step. I have to start somewhere don't I?
And once again for the 5th time, I understand the risk I take with liability resting on my shoulders, however I'd rather assume that risk and not pay for something I may never reap the 'benefits' from. you say yet like it's inevitable I'll get in a wreck, I'm not 16 years old for the first time on the road. You say it's not if, but when. I say that's your reality. I place a lot of emphasis on being a careful driver. But then again what do I know, I only think that because I'm 25. For christ's sake I'm not saying I'm superman I'm saying that I'd rather assume the risk and pay out of pocket. Again, this has been covered.
Maybe shelling out huge amounts of money to go to law school is the wrong way to address the situation, how about some good ol' fashioned discussion to bring about change. I didn't realize I must attend law school to do anything worth while in the world. And as far as your snide remark about cake, I'm not solely looking for an easy solution, I don't care if it's hard, as long as it's realistic, but this has been talked about. Call me what ever names make you feel better. How about you re-read the thread in it's entirety and progress the conversation, stop beating the dead horse.
Say whatever you like, I don't think I'll be responding to you again, especially if it's back-tracking, because it's difficult to have a conversation with someone who readily identifies their bias towards you.
The system being corrupt doesn't decrease your probability for finding happiness any more than it would for anyone else. This is where you appear to be whiny as a child wanting the system to change, but doing nothing about it other than a search for loopholes to get yourself out of taking responsibility or payment of insurance, in this case.
I understand your points only too well.. my youngest son is your age, and my oldest sounds just like you
Originally posted by wishful1gnorance
Yes, this topic has been brought up earlier about the ownership of the vehicle, and you are right it most certainly would be a long and arduous path through the legal system to fight the principals at hand.