Obama Information Czar Confronted Over "Ban Conspiracy Theories" Paper

I actually believe him when he says he's forgotten writing the paper. I've written a few hundred pages worth of material over the last 2 years and I can hardly remember what I wrote about a few weeks ago. I also tend to remember the lyrics to maybe 4-5 of the songs I write at a time, the rest fade into my memory and I need to look at them to remember them. If you were to ask me, "don't you remember writing that song about so and so topic 5 years ago?" I'd probably answer no. I mean I would probably remember writing it, but I wouldn't be able to specifically remember what I wrote, let alone magically recite it.

I wouldn't be too suspicious of this guy. He's only human and people do people things. How exactly he would like to ban conspiracy theorizing is beyond me, but I don't doubt him forgetting about some old work assignment.

Can't remember what he wrote.... Give me a freakin break. He can't remember what he wrote because he didn't write it. Someone else did and he's just the public face peddling it.

Just like "Dr." Judy Wood and her "space beams took out the WTC" garbage. She can't recite any of "her" calculations, numbers, or theories unless it's on paper right in front of her because they're not her calculations. They're someone else's and she's the public face peddling them.

If you put time into researching and then authoring something, you're going to remember most everything you researched and wrote about.

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Excerpt from paper:
"Conspiracy theorists are not likely to be persuaded by an attempt to dispel their theories; they may even characterize that very attempt as further proof of the conspiracy. Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups."

Well I think we know one group this paragraph of his could be interpreted to describe ..."Birthers"

but otherwise I'd say it's far too generalized....probably made up of of folks suffering from delusional disorder...a really small % of people ..

www.minddisorders.com...

Originally posted by Jagermeister

Originally posted by benrl
I love the "I just do what Im told"

Thats the classic excuse of nazi A-holes isn't it?

I think we need to bring back the Nuremberg trials.

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I think we need to bring back the guillotine and the rack!!!!

If you think you remember every post that you've ever written on ATS, you're delusional or lying.

I can remember every thread I've written, but some posts I look back, and can't remember me writing that individual post.
I can't remember every paper I wrote in college.

Who cares about what this guy wrote four years ago? Just because he wrote a paper in support of something, doesn't mean it will ever get enacted as law.....

and really, Conspiracy theorists, like Alex Jones, do more to hide the truth, than reveal it. TPTB love this site.
They throw out so much disinfo it's ridiculous. They're keeping us distracted with useless garbage...like this story.

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You don't produce a paper on the elimination of Free Speech and the harassment or punishing of those who engage in it and forget. That's a ideology formed over a lifetime.

Why are you defending that I wonder? Do you personally believe that speech should be controlled?

It's a myth that these so called intellectual progressives are any smarter than those with opposing views. They do however seem to want to do away with any speech that does not agree with them. The world has seen this too many times I'm afraid. To defend it is to agree with it IMO.

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I can remember my own Ideology. You guys defending this just because he's a member of the Party you belong to, or your a person who likes Obama? I'll ask you also, do you believe that speech should be controlled through a system of censorship and punishment?

This gives me an idea -
Remember how Dan Savage used Santorum's name to describe something rather gross?
Whenever someone tries to "cognitively infiltrate" and spread disinformation
We should call them a Sunnstein.
Can we have a new noun for shills, please?

reply to post by Asktheanimals


I like it

Can we also have a new noun for terrorists?

Whenever we suspect someone is a terrorist we call them a Bush.

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Can't remember what he wrote.... Give me a freakin break. He can't remember what he wrote because he didn't write it. Someone else did and he's just the public face peddling it.

Just like "Dr." Judy Wood and her "space beams took out the WTC" garbage. She can't recite any of "her" calculations, numbers, or theories unless it's on paper right in front of her because they're not her calculations. They're someone else's and she's the public face peddling them.

If you put time into researching and then authoring something, you're going to remember most everything you researched and wrote about.

I doubt you 'll be able to read this post next week word for word without reading it

Originally posted by EarthEvolves
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

I did not know that he wanted to ban conspiracy theories. I thought what he wanted was to infiltrate the milieu of conspiracy theorists, then to divide and conquer?

what he wanted is what they are doing..even on this thread

Rep. Issa Details Obama’s Illegal Propaganda Campaign

lonelyconservative.com...

Bush Administration Found Involved in Illegal 'Covert Propaganda'

www.commondreams.org...

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore." He continued "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

en.wikiquote.org...

Originally posted by IpsissimusMagus
reply to post by Asktheanimals

 

I like it

Can we also have a new noun for terrorists?

Whenever we suspect someone is a terrorist we call them a Bush.

That's pretty good but doesn't calling a terrorist a Cheney roll off the tongue nicely too?

We're going to have to work up a new lexicon for the age of conspiracies.
Sounds like a fun project to me!

Cass Sunstien is one of the drivers behind the Obama administrations policy. He has a long history of supporting socialist/communist causes. If you look into him it makes what the adminstration is doing policy wise pretty clear. Van Jones is another, but Glenn Beck brought so much atttention to Van he had to leave the Admin.

The irony is that some of the more "out there" conspiracy theory stuff tends to lead the public into dismissing conspiracy theories in general, which in turn provides one of the best covers for any truth that may be revealed in plain sight. Now why would they want to mess with that?

The Abstract says nothing about "Banning Conspiracy Theories" and the actual paper only addresses the idea of "banning" conspiracy theories once... and that is merely presenting the ways a government could possibly deal with them (Like China).

Not surprising that ATS is reacting -exactly- like the paper said you would.

Come on! He can't remember what he wrote four years ago? Doesn't know if he agrees with it or not? What is this? The Stepford Czar?

Why are we still even discussing this moron?
This is the same person who believes animals should be allowed to
sue with humans as their representatives!

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Another dork "done good". Nothing new.

“I may agree with some of the things I have written but I’m not exactly sure. I focus on what my boss wants me to do,”

What kind of intellectual is this? He doesn't believe what he is writing? This ladies and gentlemen is not at all an intellectual. This is a 1984 bureaucratic pig, writing papers with fancy words as a propaganda piece. Disgusting absolutly disgusting.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Paid professionals that spew their bosses points of view, and then ram those points of view into the collective conscious is exactly what is wrong with our system. It is also exactly why professions and experts should have little say in public policy development. You never know whether that professional was bought and paid for by someone else, or whether they really believe the stuff they are writing. I'd much rather listen to an average joe's opinion anymore, over that of a hired professional.