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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by Iason321
Well, the whole thing about launching our spent fuel rods into space, is that it's darned near impossible, and not to mention, economically unfeasable.
Current launch prices are somewhere near $3,000 to $15,000 ... PER KILOGRAM.
And keep in mind, this is for surface to *ORBIT*, not escape velocity, mind you... just to orbit.
Sending them out of the earth's gravity well would be much more expensive.
So.... really, it's not actually a feasible thing to do.
Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
The average human body has 4400 becquerels from decaying potassium-40, which is a naturally-occurring isotope of potassium.
en.wikipedia.org...
You live in radiation, all day, every day, since CONCEPTION till death.
Deal with it like Adults, please.edit on 24-4-2012 by ErtaiNaGia because: (no reason given)
Is this what naturally occurring radiation does to people...
Birth defects of late from American DU shelling in Iraq
There is a difference from natural radiation and human made, natural radiation doesn't leave you looking like this poor child.
viewzone2.com...edit on 24-4-2012 by PageAlaCearl because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
The average human body has 4400 becquerels from decaying potassium-40, which is a naturally-occurring isotope of potassium.
en.wikipedia.org...
You live in radiation, all day, every day, since CONCEPTION till death.
Deal with it like Adults, please.edit on 24-4-2012 by ErtaiNaGia because: (no reason given)
Biological effect begins with the ionization of atoms. The mechanism by which radiation causes damage to human tissue, or any other material, is by ionization of atoms in the material. Ionizing radiation absorbed by human tissue has enough energy to remove electrons from the atoms that make up molecules of the tissue.When the electron that was shared by the two atoms to form a molecular bond is dislodged by ionizing radiation, the bond is broken and thus, the molecule falls apart. This is a basic model for understanding radiation damage.
But waiting for another catastrophe to happen is the sensible thing to do
You seem to have a good basic understanding of physics, but you are so misguided when it comes to ethics and, let's face it, being human
You volunteering to walk into that mess and start the cleanup?
Thought not.
I shall trump your Penn and Teller fluff TV show with an actual scientific document from actual scientists at Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility (TJNAF)
Biological effect begins with the ionization of atoms. The mechanism by which radiation causes damage to human tissue, or any other material, is by ionization of atoms in the material. Ionizing radiation absorbed by human tissue has enough energy to remove electrons from the atoms that make up molecules of the tissue.When the electron that was shared by the two atoms to form a molecular bond is dislodged by ionizing radiation, the bond is broken and thus, the molecule falls apart. This is a basic model for understanding radiation damage.
Yeah, it's really a lot like water isn't it?
Drowning is death from asphyxia due to suffocation caused by water entering the lungs and preventing the absorption of oxygen leading to cerebral hypoxia.
A flood is an overflow of an expanse of water that submerges land.
Floods often cause damage to homes and businesses if they are placed in natural flood plains of rivers.
All radiation is natural? All humans do is concentrate it?
Plutonium is nearly all manmade - maybe a tiny bit has been indirectly observed in natural uranium reactors.
And there is a full range of isotopes that result from criticalities produced by man-made concentration of natural isotopes. Whether they exist in nature or not, they would not exist in these quantities without man.
In a post further up, you note that there is alot of Uranium, albeit in low concentrations, in sea water - but fail to note that the vast majority of particles are not the isotope that emits that level of radiation.
You sure attack nasty for someone who is only partially educated on the subject.
I know, I shouldn't feed the trolls...
Originally posted by thedayafterroswell
reply to post by PageAlaCearl
One of us is in deep trouble... I already knew it was bad, but this is a good reminder of why we need to find a solution to these types of situations or we should stop using nuclear power altogether.
Queen Elizabeth has concealed a secret code within the names of her children, pay attention to only the first letters of their middle names.
Charles—Philip Arthur George
Anne—Elizabeth Alice Louise
Andrew—Albert Christian Louis
…it reads…
Page Ala Cearl
On first appearance, it doesn’t look like much, let me go through it with you and reveal what the words mean…and please do your own research to verify this.
Page—servant or helper
Ala—Macedonian mythological Reptilian ‘Serpent’ demon, who brings wind and thunder, destroys crops, eats children and if left unhindered will ultimately bring about the end of the world.
Cearl—3rd King of Mercia (606-626 A.D.) = 3 King of Mercy, which refers to the Litanies of Divine Mercy—prayer No. 3 and it reads… 3. Jesus King of Mercy, ‘who has sanctified us’.
…the end product reads…servant to the Serpents/Reptiles who have sanctified us.
Make of this what you will, two hours after deciphering this code my phone line and internet was cut.
Originally posted by AllIsOne
Originally posted by doobydoll
If one fuel rod is capable of killing more than a couple billion souls then we've had it.
Nuclear power should be banned globally until we find a way to safely dispose of it's waste, it's just common sense really.
But when has common sense ever won against the mighty dollar my friend?
Dumb idea #2: Send the nuke waste into space! Yeeehaw, let aliens deal with it.
Do you have any idea how much nuke fuel weighs? 1(ONE) typical spent fuel cask weighs 151tonnes. Do you know what kinda ummmmmph (thrust) you need to send 151 tons into space? The more weight you are sending up the more fuel you need to send it up, the more fuel you are carrying the more weight you have. At a certain point, you reach negative returns... you can't carry enough fuel to reach escape velocity. For comparison, the usual max payload for the space shuttle including crew and toothpaste was about 23 tonnes. Now look at this little fact:
With 134 missions, and the total cost of US$192 billion (in 2010 dollars), this gives approximately $1.5 billion per launch over the life of the program.
Now that includes Nasa's buildings, paperclips and janitors, but most of the cost of a launch is the fuel. FUEL. Now, given your payload, assuming you could even reach escape velocity, which you couldn't, you would need approx 8x
Source
[edit] On second thought, you guys probably weren't serious, all good, I'm probably just coming down from a sugar rush... carry on!
edit on 31-10-2011 by Wertwog because: mini coffee crisp and gummy bears.... ohhh sore belly!
[edit] Maybe the Atlantians will take it. Or send it to Antarctica, nobody lives there anyways...edit on 31-10-2011 by Wertwog because: anybody got a antacid?