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Originally posted by bhaal
It has been said that the number of the beast isnt 666 but is in fact 616.
Revelations 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
It's also not limited to money, there will be medical, dental, stock information, drivers license, social security number, medical charts, x-rays, everything now on paper, or stored on computer pertaining to you will be in that "mark".
People will be terrified to go against the beast, that their entire way of life will be "turned off". There will be no way to eat, to buy gas, to but personal hygiene products, to go to a doctor, to drive a car, to travel by plane or bus, to pay for utilities.
Originally posted by bhaal
It has been said that the number of the beast isnt 666 but is in fact 616.
Originally posted by davesmart
then at 16 (here in the uk you recieve a national insurance number, cant work without one)
just speculating
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Selfishness aka greed aka acting in your own self interest is good. It stops being good when a person gets to a point in life where the result of their past selfishness can lift another person up, but they choose to seek more for themselves instead. Selfishness is what builds a strong and prosperous economy. Do you think that a multimilliomaire CEO employs people solely because he cares about them? Of course not. He employs them because he wants to increase the bottom line and expand his bank account, but in doing so he helps those that he employs to do the same, at least in most circumstances. That is selfishness. Without selfishness there would't be anything to give to those less fortunate. Selfishness can and should result in selflessness.edit on 23-4-2012 by OptimusSubprime because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
Not being a Christian, I understand the unease people would have with any kind of "mark". I wouldn't dare allow any mark on my body or something implanted in my skin. The very idea of that, regardless of religious affiliation, would not sit well with me at all.
If something like that DID in fact occur, and I would be unable to buy or sale anything, I personally wouldn't view it as the fabled "Mark of the Beast", but just a really dumb, draconic thing being pushed on us. I doubt it would ever happen, considering how unpopular it would be. If it did, I would survive as I am without it.
I'm sure the question arises to other non-Christians as myself: If a "mark" was made for us, and an obvious Antichrist arose and performed miracles while claiming to be God, would that change your mine about Christian prophecy?
Originally posted by Apollo7
reply to post by EnochWasRight
I was raised Christian, but I was attacked and taken from a Bridge in Charleston, West Virginia and put on another Bridge about 1 or 2 miles from where I was located. I was found walking around in shock. I was en-route to go and work for US Customs and Border Patrol in Piegan, Montana. The last call I made to them was that I was being attacked by something that I could not explain. I was taken and attacked by Aliens- not human-not animal. How does this fit into religion? I call these things Locust! They are already here on this Earth! I think the Mark of the Beast is already happening. I think the New World Order began back in 2009! I think the Mark of the Beast is going to be a RFID that we will be forced to be implanted with. I think that our cash system will no longer exist. The Cash change over is already happening in Sweden and Spain.
In my opinion- The Anti-Christ is around 34 years of age with black hair and blue eyes and will rise out of the Middle East. I think he is in the area of Damascus.
I think the world will be made over into something else, and the changes are so discrete that not many people are even noticing this.
Originally posted by dbates
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I've wondered about this exact angle for some time. The message of Mohammed is by definition "anti-Christ" and just look at how much of the world and what part of the world is controlled by this religion. We don't know for sure how much of the world will be required to receive this mark. We do know for sure that not all of the world will be under the dominion of this Beast and he will have opposition. It isn't a far fetch to say that John was just speaking of the world as how it related to the nation of Israel. Remember much of the book of Revelation is based around Jerusalem and the people of Israel.
Quite likely that the 200 million man army is a Chinese effort to seize control of the oil rich region of the middle east so that would mean that the Chinese don't receive the Mark of the Beast if you're going to put this into the scenario that you've mentioned previously. Will the United States be included in this group? I don't know. It's not clear at all what America's place is in the book of Revelation. Does it even still exist? There's still too much of a gap between what we know and what we read in these prophecies but I'm sure once it hits us those who are aware will see it to be an obvious facade.