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Top Ten Real Conspiracies.

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posted on Jul, 15 2006 @ 05:24 PM
I can't believe I haven't found this thread until now.
I really wanted to work on a project like this a long time ago.

conspiracy list thread

Of course now we have tinwiki where, no doubt, we have an entire database of marvelous conspiratorial type info, but this is still a subject that fascinates me.

People do laugh or think we are nuts when we say "conspiracy," but conspiracies do exist and should be brough to light - even if it is brought to the light after the damage is done.

the word "conspiracy"

I hope John Bull is still around and still inspiring others this way.
Great job to all who contribute to uncovering the truth!

posted on Aug, 8 2006 @ 01:56 AM
Nero wasn't playing a violin it was a lyre. That was there around then.

posted on Sep, 11 2006 @ 09:48 PM

Originally posted by BigPimpin
That is true. The known mind control is the media and the news (Ill admit that I watch the news sometimes), but I dont take it very seriously. There are some closed minded people who assume that the news tells the 100% truth. If those people found out the truth about everything or at least some of the truth, they will go crazy.

[edit on 11-7-2005 by BigPimpin]

This is for those who don't know about this case. Maybe you'll think twice about what you believe from the news and also how many other states follow this policy.

posted on Sep, 11 2006 @ 09:58 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted, but I always found this interesting and worth a mention.

Promis Software Conspiracy

posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 01:41 PM
what about the weed conspiracy everyone knows that Dupont along with Hearst news papers rid the world of its premier form of natural resources. hemp hmmm what do you think causes more damage or pullotion to this country all them hemp fields that we should have or all those refineries that pump that dupont death in your lungs and bodys why in the hell do we need man made fibers when we can get them easier and safer for all ???i will tell you MONEY

posted on Dec, 7 2006 @ 10:49 PM

Originally posted by WeBDeviL
Here's the thing: They were getting so much intel at the time that i became cluttered and lost in the hundreds upon hundreds of information pieces.

The problem I have with this is that these weren't one of the hundreds of warning coming from civilians. These were warnings coming from foreign governments, like the Australian government. Such warning coming from allied/neutral GOVERNMENTS would have much more credibility, or at least more priority over others.

posted on Dec, 11 2006 @ 08:10 PM
You missed one guy's, but you must read it yourself......the link

don't let the title fool you, this is going on right now, the world over.

posted on Dec, 11 2006 @ 08:36 PM
What an amazing read, and astonishing amount of research that JB1 has put forth on this thread.

I enjoyed reading through his list. Countless amount of information, and so much room for discussion.

When it comes to JFK and 9/11, much can be said for or against the official story.

Although, reading through some of these age old conspiracies, it leaves a lasting impression that we may never know the truth.

posted on Dec, 14 2006 @ 08:02 AM
Excellent Thread.

I have always been Interested by the assasination of two US presidents who had the common interest of following the US constitution in regards to coining and controlling its own money.

President Abraham LIncoln printed 449 million dollars ( known as Greenbacks) that carried no interest and were debt free. These were used to cover Union costs of the Civil War, and was legal tender to pay all debts public and private. This act saved the US Government roughly 4 billion in interest, instead of paying private bankers. .
After the Civl war ended, LIncoln was assasinated, and reconstruction was paid for using international bankers, with interest paid to them.

President John F. Kennedy attempted to remove the stranglehold that international bankers have on the people of the USA also, his infamous Presidential order 1110. This would give John Kennedy the same power that Lincoln excercised and could issue debt free, interest free money as detailed in the Constitution of the United States.
Kennedy was assasinated 4 months after he signed this order.

posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 12:34 AM
we all can stop any conspiracy...choice only to make the right one lol

posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 01:29 AM
U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY PAULSON ARRESTED IN GERMANY DECEMBER 30,2006.. READ ALL ABOUT IT ON WWW.WORLDREPORTS.ORG... This is all because he refused to release the Wanta monies. g-d this is great....

posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 08:55 PM
Good thread. When it comes to "top conspiracies"....I think the fact that there is no law stating that Americans are required to pay taxes should be included.
I just registered here and I'm almost positive that this subject has already been brought up, but I just thought I would mention it.

posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 09:03 PM
To the OP,

I ''youtube'd'' Julius Caesar but got no results

Just kidding, great thought provoking thread.
Arguments can be made for many.
I would imagine there is a conspiracy of one kind or another
surrounding the majority of major global events which have happened
in our generation.
Looking forward to hearing alternative top tens.

posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 09:19 PM
has anyone brought up how the Fed reserve bank was formed ?

external link

""The Fed became law the day before Christmas Eve, in the year 1913, and shortly afterwards, the German International bankers, Kuhn, Loeb and Co. sent one of their partners here to run it. "

Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson was adamantly opposed to the idea of a privately owned federal bank and said " I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies".

Woodrow Wilson

The year is now 1913, the year after Woodrow Wilson was elected president of the United States. Prior to his election he needed financial support to pay for his campaign, so he reluctantly agreed, that if elected, he would sign the Federal Reserve Act, in return for that financial support.

In December 1913 while many members of Congress were home for Christmas, the Federal Reserve Act was rammed through Congress and was later signed by President Wilson. At a later date, Wilson admitted with remorse, when referring to the Fed."I have unwittingly ruined my country".

Now Comes the Income Tax! !!!

We didn't have nor did we need an income tax until we got the bankers back. The income tax was only needed to pay interest to the bankers for our money that they loan to our government. Yes, you read that right, the Fed, mostly on paper and computer, creates money or pays the treasury a small printing fee for currency, and then loans this money to our government. Our taxes pay them interest on this loan that cost the FEDS virtually nothing to make, what a sweetheart of a deal they have going for them.

As of March 6, 2006, the national debt stands at 8.2 trillion dollars. The American taxpayers have paid the FED banking system $173,875,979,369.66 in interest on that debt in just five short months, from October, 2005, through February, 2006. No con artist or group of con artists in history has ever perpetrated a scam that even approaches the scope of this one

[edit on 22-2-2007 by syrinx high priest]

posted on Mar, 10 2007 @ 02:31 PM
Here's my 10

1. Hurricane Katrina
2. Roswell
3. Osama Bin Ladin
4. 9-11
5. The Kennedy's
6. The Cold War
7. The 2 Iraqi wars
8. The Philidelphia Experiment
9. Airbus A380
10. Watergate

My other top 10

1. Anna Nicole Smith
2. Milli Vanilli
3. Michael Jackson
4. Bill Clinton
5. Wilt Chamberlain & the 20,000 women.
6. Magic Johnson & the AIDS virus
7. J Edgar Hoover
8. The orginal SUPERMAN
10. Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls

posted on Mar, 16 2007 @ 04:24 PM
“The 5500 Year Suppression of Ages”
To know is immortal

The Greatest curiosities upon our selves, is simply to know our selves and the mysteries of our Self being and Universe so vast. What grand purpose do we have here and why so much cruelty and suffering upon ourselves.

Because we don’t know ourselves and we don’t truly have the freedom to attain that goal for the formations of environments around us and through medias.

Sins, we know plenty of, and we know why… money and power, two of the greatest sins, for all, there is no power in us as there is in our Galactic Father, or God as you know him, though you know him not, and know not how to reveal Him for his true manner of being to convince us that He Exists.

Because they want to convince you that God is Money and money exists.

The existence of money and power for luxuries and perversions, above all, have distorted our very conception of well being, histories and spirituality, for evil always seeks to take away your spirituality to weaken you.

Hence conformed and implemented Corruptions of Propaganda.

We see it every day and every where, both in the human kingdoms and animal kingdoms.

Because of Our Stain.

This Stain will be 5480 years old on December the Tenth of this year, two thousand and seven, in the year of Our Lord, Jesus Christ, for all, on a worldwide level, though their religions are different and many, they all know in generality.

The core of our Histories, more or less, has always been focused around the Mediterranean, where we are also watchful for the histories of Egypt because of their great monuments left behind for us to witness and their records in temples of worship.

Many have asked and still debate the great mystery of the Pyramids and the Wisdom of yesterdays Scholars, and why it is that we only know the history of Egypt to roughly 3100.bC to a time of a First Pharaoh, and what are the mysteries of earlier Pharaohs, like Narmer, or Scorpion King and hints of other preceding Pharaohs. Pharaohs, who reach the day of light to 4000.bC from the provenance of the Palermo Stone which I believe was “broken” on purpose to hide older facts of our Histories, especially around 3500.bC, or before Christ.

The Bronze Age is capped around this time also, and the rest of the Mediterranean doesn’t seem to “wake up” until after 2000.bC, By 1000 aD, most of the Western knowledge was altered and hidden to favor the East.

In All, part of the great 5500 year suppression of Ages which all changed when they abandoned Our True God, who is Father.

But who can say, who is Father? What evidence can they sustain to convince us of Father other than words of hope and wisdom?
Who can say whose religion is proper when God has anger with 7 Churches that are in Asia?
For this reason, their very own revelations, shall be revealed unto themselves, for to alter God’s name is a revelation unto thyself of thine own doings as it has been for 5480 years.

For this reason they changed your calendar to Zero, and glorified themselves with riches and have hidden the truth from amongst our selves to gain the promise of the “broken one”, as they have glorified themselves with our true hidden knowledge.

For this reason, the Library of Alexandria fell to Pergamon, where they themselves, say the seat of their abomination also resides near the perch of The Ark.

Strange, for the Ark has been perched for at least 5000 years also, or since the First Pharaoh as you know him, Pharaoh Menes.

You know Menes, but you don’t know the Secret of Mn, which is part of a Royal Family of Wisdom and Time.

Nor do you know the Secret of our True Histories as Atlanteans, because our truth bears no academic standing in our schools of wisdom, if you can call them such things for all their falsities mediated by families of Zero.

So, to tell a Great Lie, is Great Truth, such as to portray Atlantis as a mystical underwater Disney movie, is burnt into the deepest neuro-logic memory banks of our minds.

Such as spending money or slaying our neighbours for crazed manias of distorted beliefs and hidden rages brought on through thought control which evolves into our maturities and family functions.

In other words, gross injustice and negligence upon ourselves through medias of corruption to the level of accepted tolerance and disfunction.

So, in truth, we are innocent as to why, but not as to have known why and still do.
Part of this corruption is also bred on purpose to distort forms of gain, such as religions, God or personal growth or our true histories. A prime example is we often see Crosses, God, Jesus Christ, Bibles and other religious purposes portrayed along side evils on our televisions, such as the The Excorcist and Linda Blair……when she was a child of 13 years of age for her demented movie role.

Again, focus is on Corruptive Power where the mentality of God and religions reaches a point of rejection because they themselves, the followers of Zero, blame God for our injustices and misfortunes and label him a murderer to have wiped out our Earth by a Great flood for his resentment of us.
Or, Priests, Bibles and God, will end up harming us with a “Texas ChainSaw” or “Silence of The Lambs”.

It was not God, the reality is it was Mr. Zero, whose abomination formed from the evils of your Sins upon ourselves, just as the Purity of God forming from the goodness of your deeds upon ourselves.

So, every Earth like planets with humans, also have their Gods in other Galaxies where the Law of One justifies Air and Water and comfort to sustain our lively hoods.

For example, most of us cannot look at a naked body without thoughts of lust if desired or detestment and embarrassment if resentful, for lack of beauty and spirituality of the complexity at hand.

A good example, is that in ancient times, fat big butted goddesses, were looked upon as beautiful because they were closer to God, in ancient times, before we abandoned him for the power of Zero.

The key word is Power, because the Power of Purity or God, and the Power of Zero, were the battles of our life forces to sustain provenance of kingdom, or our Earth, which sadly we see in our medias, families and futures, reflected by the power of zero.

Only problem is, the the followers of Zero, who are leading our very destruction, have no Mr.Zero, to further perpetrate their cause of evil doings and puppet governments.

The reason for this is that the 5500 year suppression has seen the light of day, and the truths of ourselves and our histories has been revealed.

The benefits of this is in the message of World Peace and Prosperous Growth for All of Us, no matter where we stand on this Earth.

Religion has stood the test of time and will always stand the test of time because there is no greater glory than Spiritual growth for us to continue in our next phases of development if we preserve our very well being…

That is, our Souls.

This was the Tragedy of Zero, to please you for your Souls so he could grow further than his 7 light years size within our very energies around us.

Imagine if we were to become that abominations energy?

That is the same purpose of those in Power, to be like the Gods.

Tragic that they shall become the Gods of misfortune in the world of the greys or their souls evaporated into the bowels of Sekhmet and Orion, or Osiris and Isis if you like.

Because it is to Egypt that we are thankful to know the truth of our Histories and God, and to reveal unto us this 5480 years of Suppression, that and a mysterious land known as Africa.

It is to Africa that we owe it to ourselves to be thankful for the truths of our histories, to some extent. Our Scientists discover our oldest bones there, and trace our DNA roots to around the lands of Tanzania, Africa and The Old Duvai Gorge of Ethiopia. Our knowledge base has grown to a level to understand Dinosaurs or Continental plate theories, or wonderful machines that marvel our imaginations and transport us around this entire globe, or magnificent displays of human effort with our Cities or sacrifices of countless of lives for Wars of distortion and greed and false religions.

A 6000 year old war that continues to this day and terrifies our very existence

Call it systematic genocide if you like, for the purpose of the yellow race who glorifies themselves for their 100 years of breathe here on Earth.

It is also to Africa, that we owe ourselves the hidden knowledge of Atlantis and Atlanteans, as it was revealed not only in Sais, Egypt around 570.bC,, but also by our scholars of yesterday who memorized the Atalantean and Atarantean cultures of Africa (see Herodotus Histories).

But who is one man, to convince us of these great truths and why should we accept these truths as provenance.

Because the evidence has been collected to reveal our hidden histories and truths of not only ourselves, but of God and his grand purpose here for us all to be free of corruptions and live in peace and prosperity and to grow in a positive manner.

Perhaps, when we too realize our God, and return to Him as we once did prior to 3250.bC, then we too can build Pyramids with God, like our Atlantean forefathers of TA, the ancient name for our Earth, which became Atlantis or Atalantis if you prefer.

Sadly, we changed it to Earth, from our Suppressions upon ourselves, for here too, evil arose out of Egypt and stained Africa, Arabia, the Levant (Phoenicia) and Phrygia…

Then, it spread throughout our world by the followers of Zero.

Some knowingly while others unknowingly, to support the grand purpose of broken oracles, or promises, unknown to themselves.

Rich they became in the physical, but poor they become in the Spiritual.

In ignorance of their selves, but not in ignorance of their perversions.

True, a man may be King, or President or Wealthy in Riches, but is he wealthy in respect and rememberance? We only need to read about Croesus and Plato to understand the meaning of this.

The True meaning is what we all seek to understand.

To further the purpose of our cause, the meaning is simple for our 5500 year suppression.

Without lay of blame, for lack of knowledge, this meaning in the deepest sense becomes only two.

Jesus The Christ, and Judas The Anti-Christ.

I say this in a different sense of understanding, rather than what we commonly accept because we need to understand truly the purpose of the two.

Judas, we understand that he betrayed Christ who was murdered by the families of Eleazar, the black hooded priests of the 72.

For here is a land where they claim self glorification to justify that Wisdom, Knowledge, our English Alphabet, God, His Son and Mr.Zero all reside?

And here is the Holiest of Holies and the root of our Holy Bible, the Book of Constantine the ByZeroTine.

The root of this word is “Roma”, for they have been influencing our religions for 5500 years also with their cries of “Thou Shalt be put to Death”!! In fact, we can discover that this is 3000 years of influence for 1000.bC was when the Phoenicians reached Western Europe and Africa, and 1000.aD, was the apex of “Roma” integrations.

This “Roma” is also the root of degrading Christians and Catholics alike and setting down the foundations of our beliefs today, such as we also perpetrate everything to Sanskrit or Indo-Europeans without any regard or teachings of virtue for our true histories.

Then you wonder why they also hide Linear A or Atlantis.

When the Wisdom of the West Fell, such in case as The Great Library of Alexandria, the Wisdom of The East also arose and has been manipulated and contorted for their personal gain.

Such as they are known for Serpent cultures or forked tongues, which is also represented by their writings such as the chicken scratches of cuneiform for Darius or early Sumerians or The Tower of Babel and Babylon.

For truly, if you you believe in them, then they shall prosper from you. Just tally up the monetary gain of The Holy Bible or claim of the God and The Holy lands.

But how are we to truly understand all this?


To read The Book of Atlanteans is more dangerous than reading the Bible.

Because, the Book of Atlanteans will reveal to you the Truth of Our Histories and not a conformed book of our legends and myths or garbled bits of scrolls accumulated to a magnificent story of misfortune, such as The Battle of Troy or The Illiad, or The Holy Bible.

To study Atlanteans is to understand our World Cultures as they were and interacted until that fateful day of December 10th, 3474.bC when Zero worship transpired from Snoferu and Khufu.

For this reason 150 years of Darkness fell upon Egypt and The Temples were closed, and Khufu, like his father, murdered millions.

Since then, or after Pharaoh Den, the Stain of Egypt has effected us all for from Egypt it carried into Arabia and Phoenicia, Phrygia and into Europe, and today worldwide for China and Japan are also corrupted.

The Secret of The Golden Calf, or The Slaughter of The Bull, is The Greatest Sacrifice.

The Slaughter of The Son of Man, which was also portrayed again, by Jesus Christ.

Then we have to ask ourselves, was this betrayal on a par with the followers of Zero Worship?

Did their secret books of evil rights know in advance the coming of Him?

We can also view this as the secret rights who keep an eye out for Atlantis, because they know the truth of Atlantis will reveal their falsities upon us.

Jesus Christ died around Zero to our Calendars, because he was chosen.
Jesa Christ died December 10th,3474.bC at 8:08am, because he was pure.
Christ today lives because he is both impure and pure.
For this reason the Evil ones didn’t see his coming and missed their opportune to revive Zero.
Because Christ today, has rid thee of Zero and the Evil ones will suffer the revelations.
Only the followers of Zero remain for the Wisdom of God to justify their sins of ignorance.

In part, the great concealment of those Zero worshippers will be revealed because today, they also try to tell you that the Anti-Christ, or Judas, had good intentions and was related to Christ and they fabricate false shows or papyrus to marvel the weak and monetary slaves.

The other concealment, is that God has revealed himself, His Wife, His Son, His Daughter, and His True Garden where he recreated us after our Great Disaster caused by Mr.Zero who has also been trying for 5480 years to attain the Soul of His Son as he ascended into the Heavens with God.

But now, this great entity of spiritual energy has been released by the Wisdom of God upon ourselves.

For truly I say, that I have no intentions nor purpose to perpetuate such things either amongst myself or others, but rather that these works are in fact the mysterious works of a God we once knew and abandoned.

All because I gained a passion to reveal the truth preserved by Plato, because of the truth preserved by my earth father.

My father’s truth was the Royal history of our Family of Mn, which so far I have traced to Queen Lenor of Portugal around the 12th century, and not actually Atlantis as some people think.

Although, true in the sense of Atlantis being our old name for Earth and what our ancestors were calling themselves like we say “Humans”.

True also in the sense that Menestheos is a remembered King as are Pharaoh Menes, or Atlantean King Mneseus of Sicily, Crete and The Cyclades or Minoan cultures.

Also true in the sense of Min, the Father of Egypt and true in the sense of Man and Woman.

All Secrets of the Royal Family of Mn.

Now the complexity of all this is simple if we understand that when we use the term Christ, such as it is in the word Christian, that we are in fact referring to The Blood of The Son of Man, who is the First Born Son of God, our Father.

Throughout our time, which we know at least 250,000 years ago to our pinnacle of brain development, or 50,000 years ago to the height of our genetic race types or cultures, that many embodiments of The Son of Man have come and gone for us in our world histories.

These, like the Great Flood stories, we preserve in our cultural legends and myths.

Legends, that have been purposefully altered throughout our 5500 years of suppressions.

Legends that start with Snoferu and Khufu circa the said 2700.bC, although 885 years are missing from the reversion to Solar Calendars from Lunar when they closed the Temples and erected the new Sun Temples and the worship of Osiris, Isis and Horus based on the rising star of Sirius and Orion, which makes the Jackals and Hounds of Egypt run in fear of their shadows and howl all night long and the crocodiles are restless to fulfill their laws of Draconian malices.

Since then, systematic subjugations for this worship of Judas have effected the Nine Bows of Africa as Sesostris circa 1682.bC also slaughtered the countless throughout Libya, Arabia, The Levant and even to do battle with the Greeks with the merger of Indo-Europeans around this time, whereupon the Hyksos retaliated and also became crazed with the countless slaughters of many and subjugated Egypt in return and reverse the role of Egypt to that of Mesopotamia.

For they all came out of Egypt and circumcised themselves as Egyptians, and placed Arks on their altars as Egyptians and glorified themselves with knowledge of Egyptians, Religions and Architectural buildings.

The temple of Todd in Phoenicia (Sidon, Byblos and Tyre) exemplifies this transition period as The Ramses Kings of the middle ages also unified the bond with Phoenicia and Egypt, since they have been trading from at least 3000.bC.

When the Phoenicians traveled to Western Europe and Africa, they gained much knowledge and our histories where today our schools of teachings, falsely conform to us that linear b, is the father of our alphabet when in reality it is like Atlantis, the hidden Linear A or basic roots of speech and hieroglyphics.

Just as they have hidden the knowledge of Atlanteans and our True Father who is JA and His Son that they took away from him and concealed His Temple and His Holy Garden.

The answers I have for you, the wisdom to know and witness, I also have for you.

They are not fabrications nor are they desires of distortion or perversions for monetary gain.

If they were, I would have kept silent like an aspiring author and published a “get rich quick” book for you all to read like the Da Vinci Code whose work had already been laid out by other authors.

Then again, you have to wonder why they made a movie for Dan Brown.

Because they know how to distort your truth with lies as they do your religions and history books.

But let me Strengthen your disbeliefs, for 2700 years have passed since Hesiod and 2500 years for Herodotus.

Nary a one has revealed to you for all this time of Secret of Hesiods Greek Muses or Herodotus’ nine books of our Histories….tho they be 10 for the Hidden Book of Mylo.
For this reason, The Greeks forgot their histories around Homer.

This is authenticity of my works and visions for us all to verify.
The Secret of Mylo and The Books of Herodotus by Riven. 2006.aD. (8488aJA.)
9:05 PM 1/12/2006

Herodotus of Halicarnassus.

Book 1) Clio
Book 2) Euterpe
Book 3) Thalia
Book 4) Melpomene
Book 5) Terpsichore
Book 6) Erato
Book 7) Polymnia
Book 8) Urania
Book 9) Calliope

Book 10) Where is it? Someone has it.

Herodotus was writing in the era of memory of the 10 Kings (after 1500.bC,Deukalion), and he definitely was not writing about the Ennead....
Please return the book to us,It belongs to Man and Woman.
You can no longer hide the lies.

The Secret of the Books of Herodotus by Riven.



Epo- illa- caina- rua- in- mylo- potare- ero- h(ae)cis- pretene- moplema(Mopsus)- ila- hete- pretueo.

Epic by that way fallen (Vulcan?)to waste/sorrow into this MYLO > Mysian/ drunken wanderer with his faults, to lie before the Oracle broken Secret Society greatly prized here.

Translated with Cassell's New Latin Dictionary, 1959 edition....from Ja.

By SaJaRa Riven Jan 12,2006.aD (8488aJA.)

RETURN THE 10TH BOOK OF MYLO....Please, it is a piece of our History, along with the Books of Alexandria....Thankyou.

Immortality is attained through the Heart and not the Eyes or Ears.

Had I based my research on The Bible, you would have never known your truths.

Now you know.

For it is as it has become….

To Know Is Immortal.

To Know Is….

Save these Works to Be Immortal and Purify our Distortions.

In time you will understand why and the clues I have provided for you from God our Father in search of my family roots. Though you disbelieve me and think I fabricated the photos or wisdom..
You will come to understand that these are not the writings of a book nor personal gain, but virtue of wisdom for ourselves and a great message of World Peace.

And you will come to know our Father and His Secret of Creation as witnessed in His True Garden.
You will come to know the true ascension of His Son and the Carina Nebula Star System Secret.

The Glory of All of Us.

King of The Double Falcons.


Men of Wisdom and Time

[R]…SaJaRa- Paulo J.Tx.Mn…[R] March 15th, 8489.aJA. (2007.aD.)

posted on Mar, 16 2007 @ 07:06 PM
why only Western conspiracies? I'm sure there are more elsewhre. For ex., the Japanese 2/26 that led to Japan joining WWII.

I would say that without the militarists seizing power, there would be no pearl harbor. And WWII would have ended in 1943 with Germany alone.

posted on Mar, 19 2007 @ 04:03 PM
Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro, as part of the U.S. government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state-sponsored acts of terrorism (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.


posted on May, 2 2007 @ 01:15 AM
Don't kid yourself folks, the USA was well aware of the coming japanese attacks.

1. USA puts an embargo on more steel and oil puts an enormous squeeze on Japan which virtually has zero sources of these resources on home soil. In addition, America closes the Panama Canal to all japanese shipping. This devastates the japanese economy. Oh and finally, the USA freezes all japanese assets.

2. Against objections from US Naval Commanders, FDR orders much of the US fleet into Pearl Harbor. Talk about baiting the hook.

3. Japanese diplomatic messages prior to dec 11th are deciphered which tell the diplomats to pull out after the end of november if negotiations fail.

4. Reports from various allies to the US tell of a massive japanese fleet movement.

The evidence is clear, FDR baited the hook, starved the japanese, and then acts surprised when they attack. Before december 7, 1941 80% of americans polled opposed war. After, the reverse was the case.

My favorite little-known conspiracy rarely gets mentioned by even sites like this. It involved the Knights of Malta and was an actual Coup attempt against America and FDR...

posted on May, 2 2007 @ 03:47 AM
1.) For sheer volume of data disproving the 'official line', JFK lone gunman.
2.) The extinction event approx. 12 000 years ago, universally denied by 'experts', yet plentiful proof is easy to find.
3.) America name comes from minor historical figure Amerigo Vespucci's first name, not 2000 year old middle eastern "L'Amerika", a paradise across the western sea.
3.) Scalping was started by the Native Americans, not true, it was done by the invaders first, to clear the land.
4.) Chile Allende/Pinochet
5.) Jekyll Island, the Fed, various big name non-taxable funds, and Income tax, a plan for a firmer grip on the masses, protecting the elite, while profitting from the toil of the commoners.
6.) MLK Jr., numerous suspicious aspects about the day he died.
7.) Iran/contra, Reagan and Bush unauthorized powerplay pre-election to free the hostages, denied to this day, yet slips of the tongue leak out now and then.
8.) Pearl Harbour, mainland knowledge of attack suppressed, not sent to Hawaii, public support to enter war needed, and achieved, though more costly than foreseen...
9.) WTC 911, too many bizarre aspects, coincidences, and errors, like the Andrews AFB inaction, overall very long response time to hijacks.
10.) Kuwait, monarchy once Iraq province, liberated? Restore a monarchy, after nation previously in control retakes what once was its.

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