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Remembering The LA Riots and the Double Standard of the Race Issue and Gun Control

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posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 07:24 PM
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Oh they are idiots too.

The funny thing is, they are both advocating for some form of socialism.

The neo-nazis that is, NRA is more interested in preserving 2nd amendment, can't say I blame them.
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posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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Upping thread...Good post Comb. I am sure we will see similarities arise in the future when Zimmerman is proven innocent. Yet I think this case being front headlines on the MSM is slowly coming to a halt. I am sure more interesting cases will be coming along soon to a television near you...



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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Neo Nazis and Black Panthers are both dirtbag organizations. They incite hate, fan the flames of intolerance while both stating they do so for the good of 'their' people. Luckily I think they are a dying breed (was that a pun?). Fact is, we should strive to treat everyone the same way.

If only the US was like my local gun range. Women, children and men of every color, having a blast while blasting away.

The LA riots were awful. I would like to think we've come a bit further as a country. I believe the majority of people, of every color, will denounce any senseless violence and that the blame lies not with a race, but with individuals who would use any tragedy as an excuse to cause another.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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Thanks I guess I owe partial credit to you for this thread. I was watching some YouTube videos last night and this one really caught my eye. Then I thought of how many youth, don't actually remember this happening in real life. I mean, could you imagine being caught up in a situation like this? I would be busting caps left and right, Lord have mercy on those who confront a similar situation unarmed.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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Yes, but the hate from both sides has a common goal.

This here is a thread about the Southern Poverty Law Center. They take special interest in exploiting these cases to destroy the constitution and they classify militias and patriot groups and even churches as terrorist organizations. Meanwhile they also seem to have a weird take on groups like the black panthers and Nazis. While they use them both they don't seem to prosecute anybody, unless it is in the interest of hacking away at the constitution or local state laws. Heres the kicker though, they are involved in almost any social issues case imaginable.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:03 AM
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ill put my big boy pants on if you turn around and let me get dressed in my own home without thinking to tell me who a celebrity is or what people who share a relation by color have to do. better yet grow a pair and go join a forum where black people are and tell them what u think, isnt that "grabbing the bull by the horns". in your entire discourse with me you have been indirect with me but for everyone else regarding your rhetoric; put your big boy pants on already and accomplish what your goal is; if it be racism in light of the tragedy of the 2 white guys in your video posted and trevon then you need to read the laws in your state county if your american cus what u are doing if offensive to a singular group is called a hate tort. if i go by what u say, pay me damages so i can go buy some big boy pants.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Need to ensure that self defense with a weapon stays legal.


And what made you conclude that Zimmerman acted in self defense?
The police report and the injuries to the back of his head. Among other things. Leave the MSM alone and research for yourself.


Also, if he was just out to shoot Trayvon, why was there a fight? Zimmerman would have approached him gun drawn and firing... but he didn't

The initial story and outright lies by the MSM, and race baiting by Obama were intended to cause civil unrest. They didnt get the results they wanted, so we are seeing plan B: Arrest Zimmerman knowing that the case doesn't have a leg to stand on, which will result on him being released. The outrage from the ignorant masses that do not understand the justice system will provide the civil unrest needed to cause a distraction from the election debates where Obama gets taken to the political woodshed.
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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Need to ensure that self defense with a weapon stays legal.


And what made you conclude that Zimmerman acted in self defense?
What was it that made me think he was defending himself? Here is one example



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
I believe that replacing God with government is the cause of our social and moral degradation. When humans are just jumped up apes(referring to darwinism here), their lives don't have as much value as they did when they were considered beings created in the image of God. When it is ok to force others to surrender the fruit of their labors so that you don't have to labor the whole fabric of society is damaged. When relativism and situational ethics replace absolute morality, immoral actions have no "real" consequences, so why not kill, rape, steal, burn, destroy? If life has no greater meaning than "me right now", what other outcome do you expect?


What are you talking about?
en.wikipedia.org...
83% of Americans identify with some kind of religion (with the majority being Christians). Most people in this country don't even accept evolution.
Furthermore, the majority of those in prison proclaim to be Christian. Apparently believing in a God doesn't make anyone moral. Not believing in one won't make you more prone to immorality either.
www.washingtonpost.com...
In fact, it means you will be more moral according to most of the research.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by antonia


What are you talking about?
en.wikipedia.org...
83% of Americans identify with some kind of religion (with the majority being Christians). Most people in this country don't even accept evolution.
Furthermore, the majority of those in prison proclaim to be Christian. Apparently believing in a God doesn't make anyone moral. Not believing in one won't make you more prone to immorality either.
www.washingtonpost.com...
In fact, it means you will be more moral according to most of the research.
I identify my self as the emperor of the Americas. Doesn't make it true, does it? Many people who identify themselves as "Christians" are not actually such. "By their fruit ye shall know them", I submit that the "fruit" of many of these so called Christians is putrid in God's nostrils. Going to church no more makes you a "Christian" than being in a garage makes you a car.

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
7:23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'



John:12-17 12Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

15If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Many of us are, at times, guilty of "professing with the mouth". Being born of Christian parents does not make you a Christian.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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Scripture isn't proof. It is your subjective opinion they are not Christian. If they identify as such that's what they are. What it does mean is morality is not a question that must be tied to any religion.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Maxatoria
having a gun doesn't make you safer unless you have the time to reach for it, detach safety and use the thing and with a large gang surrounding you they'll mob you and use your weapon on you if they get the jump


Funny how the Koreans didn't get their business burnt down. They had assault rifles on the roofs of their buildings..

Yeah, tell me again how firearms wont protect you. If the people pulled form the cars would have shot a few idiots in the head you'd seen folks running like rabbits.



You post is invalid.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by antonia
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Scripture isn't proof. It is your subjective opinion they are not Christian. If they identify as such that's what they are. What it does mean is morality is not a question that must be tied to any religion.
Scripture shows us the only "proof" we will get in this lifetime. While I cannot know and see their hearts, only the Lord can, we can see their actions and from those know what we are most likely dealing with. Many people who call themselves "Christians" are cultural christians at best, and most likely lying to themselves. If your numbers were truly correct, homosexuality would not be as out in the open as it is, and infanticide would still be illegal. Charities would be much stronger, and consumerism nowhere near as prevalent. Just because you go to church every sunday, does not make you a Christian and it can actually be a contraindication. The 4th commandment says "remember the sabath and keep it holy". God rested on the 7th day, not the first.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian
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I'm a liberal and I don't believe the LA riots were appropriate in any way, alot of innocent folks got caught up in it, it was a horrible event, many of the rioters showed their inhumanity that day.


I would have advocated retaliation specifically towards the individual officers who were responsible for King's beating. They should have got 20 to life. Instead they were acquitted. An intelligent President would have found out who they were, and then offered them to the black community on a silver plate.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Hispanic man, looks white and is called white/jewish, shoots black thuggish man who is on top of him slamming his head into the ground and the O along with other professional racists decry the white man killing the young boy even posting a seven year old picture of the boy instead of the picture that makes him look like a thug.


you forgot about the part where the Hispanic man follows the black guy, calls the cops who tell him to stop following him, then he continues to follow him and a confrontation takes place.

See, the stand your ground law you guys are so willing to apply to Zimmerman, actually applies to Martin.

But anyways, we can at least agree this whole situation is screwed right up.

And this op is misleading and disingenuous at best



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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ill put my big boy pants on if you turn around and let me get dressed in my own home without thinking to tell me who a celebrity is or what people who share a relation by color have to do. better yet grow a pair and go join a forum where black people are and tell them what u think, isnt that "grabbing the bull by the horns".


First of all I live in the South, Houston to be exact. I share the same neighborhood with whites, blacks, mexicans and everything else under the sun. Houston is not one of those cities like LA where different cultural groups are segregated. If you were in LA for example and walked a few blocks to far, you may find yourself mobbed in a black neighborhood. That kind of stuff doesn't happen around here, unless you stumbled into the 5th ward then it might.

Now I have a lot of black friends and friends of every race. Some of the black people around here, have nicer houses, nicer cars, nicer clothes etc.... Do I blame them? No, they are playing the game and they took it upon themselves to put their big boy pants on already.

But you are right though in the sense that you can't be held accountable for what some celebrities or politicians in the black community do or say. Unfortunately that is a product of the media and white politicians, celebrities and people in the media are guilty of it also. That just happens to be why I think the black community should reject those kinds of attacks. Two wrongs don't make a right.

In any case my reply to detachedindividual was regarding the common misconception by the media that in America all black people are oppressed and forced to live in the ghetto which is not true, particularly in the South. Blacks have every opportunity as whites to in this country. Ironically though, the ghetto neighborhoods are generally in the North. Funny how that worked out huh? But in my area, blacks are not oppressed, unless they buy into the mentality that they are oppressed by whitey. Those are typically the ones that live in section 8 housing, live on the welfare state and never allow themselves the opportunity to get ahead in life.
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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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so everyone on sec 8 or receiving some kind of "assistance" does not have their "big boy pants on"?

after studying your pathology by reading over your posts once more i came to the conclusion that people like yourself and yourself included do not have the freedom in america to address the issue in which you are attempting to be involved. as in you have no potential to manifest your will to accomplish anything relating to the issues you are including yourself; other than to make a worse situation bad. proceed at your own discretion. im done with this thread.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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I don't mean to scold anyone,especially with people more posts and experience than me.
But shouldn't we get back to the main topic?I mean there are plenty of posts and even websites where this could be taken to.
Just saying.



posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 10:54 PM
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yeah but you`ll better better off with a gun when facing a mob . Add if they do mob you , well you we're going to be dead anyway, at lease you`ll die quicker if the take your gun away and use it on you . And you might just been able to waste one or two before they get you.
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