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US Plan to starve North Koreans into deeper cannibalism - how humanitarian & diplomatic of America,

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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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US has suddenly cut off food aid to North Korea because they have are developing a space program.

Washington implies this breaks the "deal" they had and business is business.


Cannibalism in NK due to starving NK towns has already confirmed in police documents since last year.

so for Washington to make such a decision given the above intel, is quite savage and unhumanitarian.

US's 'punishment' tantrum will if anything, bring the N-S Korean solidarity, in face of America's sudden cold shoulder to their people over US's political bullying & grudge.




posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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"Nothing or something..." So they invest to build garden boxes or ICBM's, tough call really... Last time I checked nuclear wasn't on the menu anyhow.




posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Yes, let's blame everything on America. Why can't China, Russia, or many other nations step up and give some food? Must everything be America's problem? What about the nuts who run the country? Why can't they change things and help their own people instead of spending everything they can get their hands on building up for war all the time?



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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It is just socialism on a larger scale. Socialists love to take other people's money and blame you if you refuse to surrender the fruits of your labor for "the common good".



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:09 PM
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Are you 'for real' implying that the US is somehow to blame for the starving people in N. Korea? I mean cmon! How hard is it for people to realize that the US is not to blame for the suffering of every individual around the world!

I dare you to watch any one of the following videos found on this list:

topdocumentaryfilms.com...
Welcome To North Korea
North Korean Labor Camps
Children of the Secret State

Realize that much of the suffering of the people inside of N. Korea is a DIRECT RESULT OF THE ACTIONS taken by their LEADERS!

Here's a link to Kim Jong-il on wiki
en.wikipedia.org...

The only thing one could possibly look down upon the US for is not going into N. Korea and taking out their government. But even in saying that, the very act of the US disregarding sovereignty of other countries comes into question.

Is the US to police the world? NO

Is the US to provide food for the rest of the world, even when the very form of governance and actions of their leaders is the direct cause of such shortages? NO

The US needs to abandon all foreign aid, take a close look at who is their allies... and then act accordingly with whom they can confide in and trust. Which is absolutely NOT the N.Korea. Which sucks to say, but it seemingly has to be this way.

Who's to even say, that the food aid would reach those who need it most. It would probably only go to feed their army and military personnel.

The best of leaders, and those who want to inspire change that is conducive towards prosperity LEAD BY EXAMPLE. They don't put band-aids on the wounds of other recognized sovereign bodies. They lead by example, in hopes to be inspiration for change in those respective sovereign countries. N. Korea being a special kind of bread, considering they have no idea what the outside world truly is a construct of.

I fear that the only option for the good of the people in N. Korea is military action, and the removal of their government. Which again, sucks to say... especially considering the 'brain washing' that has taken place over the years!

All in all.... STOP BLAMING THE U.S.! Learn to understand the notion or adage... "You reap what you sow". Not saying the US hasn't contributed towards the resistance of their government to participate with the rest of the world, but sometimes people/governments need to drop their bondage to their own egos.


edit on 15-4-2012 by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS because: clarification

edit on 15-4-2012 by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS because: clarification



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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How is it Americas fault that they starve their own people? So we are damned if we do damned if we dont it seems.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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exactly,

why feed the world.make them dependent on ur handouts,

then suddenly cut them off spitefully?




posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by BiggerPicture


US's 'punishment' tantrum will if anything, bring the N-S Korean solidarity, in face of America's sudden cold shoulder to their people over US's political bullying & grudge.


Yes, hopefully S. Korea helps them out. I doubt the average N. Korean even knows that the U.S. provides aid to them. I find it amazing that the U.S. even does when the NK gov. misuses it and then trains their citizens to blame the West for their problems, problems that the NK gov. also trains their citizens to believe do not exist.

I don't see how anyone can take the NK gov.'s side on anything ever. NK is the best example of how "1984" is completely possible.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:14 PM
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what is it about Western mentality that its always about taking "sides"?

do the right thing or do nothing at all. thats universal.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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obviously we want to help the north korean people themselves get out of that despotic situation,
but they are being held hostage by the people at the top,
this should in no way be used as a way to blame America for North Korean leadership failures.

it's actually quite pathetic really. if you have the tech to create a rocket, you have the tech to grow some veggies..



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by yourmaker
obviously we want to help the north korean people themselves get out of that despotic situation,
but they are being held hostage by the people at the top,
this should in no way be used as a way to blame America for North Korean leadership failures.

it's actually quite pathetic really. if you have the tech to create a rocket, you have the tech to grow some veggies..



Exactly! I'm not sure what leads to such delusions of grandeur...




delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are

www.thefreedictionary.com...

It's very foolish to apply such strengths in regards to the US, and their influence in the daily lives of those around the world. The US is the leader of the FREE WORLD. Not the ruler, and most influential contributing factor to the otherwise.

It's so easy to understand... I'm almost dumbfounded by those who believe the contrary.

To say that the "US Plan to starve North Koreans into deeper cannibalism" is disgusting, and that's being nice about it.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by BiggerPicture


US has suddenly cut off food aid to North Korea because they have are developing a space program.

Washington implies this breaks the "deal" they had and business is business.


Cannibalism in NK due to starving NK towns has already confirmed in police documents since last year.

so for Washington to make such a decision given the above intel, is quite savage and unhumanitarian.

US's 'punishment' tantrum will if anything, bring the N-S Korean solidarity, in face of America's sudden cold shoulder to their people over US's political bullying & grudge.


well if we are to feed North Korea I believe we should have a say in if they can have WMD aimed at whoever they have a grudge against, ya we can stop giving them OUR foods. lets see in one hand I have a nation with billions of starving people and on the other hand I have a desire to make WMD which one is more important cause no one gets anything for nothing. being my taxes help feed them I am on my countrys side with stopping their food yes.

ADDING: Im guessing your not in america nor are you american, therefore i msut add, if your so darm upset we wouold stop giving our food to them you should organize a recommondation to your leadership and your people yoru neighbors and families, ask them to all chip in and go ahead and feed them ok?

ANd because we stop sending them our food we are starving them? step up to the plate take americas place in feeding the world go ahead.
im sick and tired of peoples around the globe biting the hands that feed them, hating on us when we make the clock tick tock so most you people can have a life. do you realize it is us common americans who pay to feed the world? not the government who works us like slaves to steal our money in taxes and sell our crops to te world no it is not us who are slaving to help the damn world....grrrrr my head hurts from the global hate


edit on 15-4-2012 by lbndhr because: adding a paragraph

edit on 15-4-2012 by lbndhr because: spell check



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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this thread is already ongoing over here....


click me....



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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Maybe it needs to get worse before it gets better.. obviously something has to change over there. If more people start to starve, more people see their family members dying and what not, it could finally lead to an uprising to overthrow their whack government.

I'm not stating this theory with confidence, indeed starvation and cannibalism are horrendous things, but do you really think us continuing to give them aid is helping in the long-run to ultimately change anything?



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Since the 1950's, about 2 million North Koreans have died and the average height has reduced about 2 inches due to chronic malnutrition and food shortages. With global trade, famine these days is not about having enough food, but having enough access to this food, as with the ongoing troubles in Africa.

The futures market is one centralised point that manages distribution of food and other resources on a global scale. So what happened to this food that was assigned for North Korea? Just left to rot in the warehouse, dumped overboard at sea or pushed onto other markets that already had enough food supply?

North Korea has already clearly demonstrated that it will not submit to tactics of food manipulation with international negotiations.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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How is this America's fault? The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the North Korean government. If they can't even feed their own people they shouldn't be spending money on a space program or building up their military. Not to mention that in the past when we have provided aid most of it didn't even get to the people that needed it. There is only one part to blame and that is North Korea. Anyone that tries to argue otherwise clearly isn't arguing from a place of logic.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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If you want to be logical about this, we have conflicting national defence policy resulting in the malnourishment of about 24 million people. What this says about the global interest is that weapons and technology are more important than people. North Korea, like every other nation has the right and responsibility to secure its own boarders. America, like every other nation has the right and responsibility in its delegation of aid.

This nuclear issue has been going on for 60 or so years, if America thinks that North Korea will do a turn around of defence policy for one shipment of food it is dreaming. What would happen in 3-6 months once all the food is gone? What hoops will North Korea have to jump through next for the next shipment? Would you give up your gun for a Big Mac?

If America want to get North Korea onside then it needs to recognise the work that North Korea has been doing towards unification, it needs to be aware that Korea has an obligation towards national security. Trust is a really big issue between these countries with on again, off again food shipments further fracturing what trust remains. I do not see North Korea as dumb enough to go on the assault with many powerful neighbours nearby, but it is dead keen on maintaining its own sovereignty.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 10:44 PM
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The people are innocent but why did North Korea have a fireworks festival recently if its people are starving.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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North Korea’s young new leader, Kim Jong-un, has instituted a novel method of executing military officers — mortar firing squad, South Korea’s leading daily newspaper reported Tuesday. The 20-something Mr. Kim ordered a military officer to be executed in a way that would leave “no trace of him behind, down to his hair,” the daily Chosun Ilbo reported, quoting a South Korean government source. The officer was placed at the aiming point of a mortar range, where an artillery shell exploded and blew him to pieces, the newspaper reported. His crime: being caught drunk during the mourning period for Kim Jong-il, Mr. Kim’s father and predecessor who died in December. The execution was part of a purge of “unsound” military officers that took place under the control of the new supreme leader, the paper reported. “When Kim Jong-un became North Korean leader following the mourning period for his father in late December, high-ranking military officers started disappearing,” the South Korean government source told Chosun Ilbo. “From information compiled over the last month, we have concluded that dozens of military officers were purged.” Mr. Kim also ordered loyal officials to “get rid of” anyone caught misbehaving during the mourning period for his father, the source added.
. Washingtonpost.com


Stop blaming the US for the crazy dictatorship of other countries......their government uses the aid we send for themselves and starves their own people......it's like people on welfare who go to the casino and say the state won't help their children....



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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Then maybe North Korea shouldn't be wasting their money on rocket programs that are fail. All that waste of money probably could have fed them and then some.

Of course that would make sense, not something dictatorship has much room for.

Perhaps some day the people of N Korea will wake up, break free from their chains and have their own occupy movement.




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