'Proof' there are no UFO's in the US

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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:49 AM
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Okay, for starters, I do believe in "ufo's," but hear me out on this. I have no pictures, only a story from a close family friend. Yadadada, I get it, you don't know me and you don't have to believe me.
With that said:

I have a good family friend, we'll call her 'Kate.' She is one of my mothers best friends from back in the day when they were growing up. They're both 50 now. I've known Kate since I was a little kid, she really is a great person and even though she loves to have fun, she also tells 'it' like it is.
Kate has been a news Producer now for about (I think) the last 25-30 years. She's worked mainly for CBS, but has produced stories for most of the other major news channels as well. You're more than likely familiar with some of the stories she's been in charge of, even though you probably wouldn't recognize her name (unless you worked within the field. You would know her Aunt's name...but that's a whole other story.)

Anyway, I went back home to visit my folks a few weeks ago. Kate ended up being in town the same weekend and went out to dinner with us one of the nights I was there. She told me about all the stories she's heard, people she's interviewed, celebrities she's met, etc. I was really curious and interested to learn what she knew as an 'insider' of the MSM, especially considering I haven't spent much time with her since I've gone to (and graduated from) college, learned about politics, fell down some rabbit holes and you know, basically became a real human being myself.
Okay, so I started asking about what were some of the strangest stories she's done, or which ones stuck out in her mind. She first told me a story (I will only give a brief rundown) of a man who claims he witnessed a UFO in New Mexico once when he was on a road trip (this interview was done back in the early-mid 90's.) He says after he saw the UFO he started to see 'aliens' following him wherever he went and strange lights and occurrences started happening wherever he lived. If he moved, it all followed him. He eventually set up a camera in his house to try to capture what was happening so others didn't think he was crazy, and sure enough he ended up filming two alienoid creatures peeping in through his back window one night after some strange lights appeared. Kate says she saw the footage while she was getting to know him, and though she can't verify anything, it looked real and the man seemed very genuine (he was not making or trying to make money or fame or anything else by having this footage. Nor was the footage ever going to be used in the news story they were running on him.) The main reason they were interviewing him is because he eventually claimed he was abducted and had a chip put in him. Sure enough, doctors found a very small 'extraterrestrial object' within his neck, just as he said they would. No one could explain it and it was unlike anything the doctors had ever seen.
This is obviously not the 'proof' that ufo's do not exist. This story just happened to lead our conversation to another alien related story Kate had, and I thought ATS would probably enjoy hearing about it.
Okay, so the proof!:
Kate also got to go tour the NORAD base in Cheyenne Mountain, CO. She was doing a relatively run-of-the-mill story, just showing the basics of the base and all the other minor details they can release to the public. I believe it was around the time of the Gulf War. She was being escorted by one of the leading Generals. When they got to the room with all the radar equipment, Kate made a quick joke along the lines of, "Oh, so this is where you watch all of the UFO's."
They general, very seriously, replied, "Ma'am there are nosuch thing as UFO's. We identify every object that comes within American air space."
She said there was a very 'telling' look that accompanied the way he said it. You know, basically saying, "Yes, alien crafts exist, but our technology is good enough to 'identify' them, thus they are no longer ufo's, they are ifo's."
Again, Kate is a relatively 'normal' woman, about 50 years old, super fun, super friendly, has had a long career in the MSM and she has been completely convinced through what she has seen and heard over the last 30 years that aliens and ufo's (ifo's) exist. It was pretty cool to hear her saying it so bluntly to my family too (my grandma, aunt, uncle, cousins, etc. were all there, and they are all fairly...'conservative' thinkers. But they trust Kate.)

Okay, that is my unnecessarily long story. You can take it however you want: Fictional, baloney, a waste of time, mind blowing, mind numbing, mediocre, trite, pretty cool, etc. Really, however you want.


Just remember, if you're seeing it, there is someone, somewhere, identifying it.
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:52 AM
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But there are photographs that experts can't explain. But it's a leap to say that the object is not from this Earth, much less intelligently controlled.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:56 AM
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Interesting... Before I read the thread I was going to post..
I doubt there are UFOs in the US,
Because Im sure the US would know whatever it is flying on their land.

Hm. Interesting


I like your thought process.

S & F



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:58 AM
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Well if they have been tracking them and making deals since Roswell... I would damn well HOPE that by now they would be able to identify the visitors ships...

If not, we need to fire them all and get someone who can do the job for all the money they get



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:00 AM
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But how do we go from UFOs to IFOs..............................................................................................to aliens. I would make that space about ten miles longer if I could but you guys get the point...............................................................there is a lot of space in-between to suggest aliens.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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I think that in general, most people fail to understand the term UFO. The term UFO means Unidentified Flying Object, which tells us that the object is indeed in the air and is unknown to us.

Alien craft? Not necessarily.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:06 AM
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the way the general sounded was pissed. sure we know everything that enters american airspace, and there's squat we can do about it.

that pretty much sums up why there is no public disclosure.

the mightiest and greatest military and country ever to occupy the earth is helpless.

that's to much of a blow to america ego's to admit.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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Hey thanks for the story op,it made for a good read.
I like the play on words the general used aswell,but them aliens stalking that poor guy haha reminds me of an episode from south park Alien anal probe.

Have a good one thanks again....
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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You mean why does she believe in aliens just from learning about ufo's = ifo's? She doesn't.
She believes in aliens because she saw them on home footage taken by a guy who had a piece of extraterrestrial technology removed from his neck.

Again, I've never seen the footage. But she did. And she is a very bright and critical thinker.

Plus, not believing Aliens have visited Earth is well....slightly more understandable than straight up not believing in aliens.
If you understand the size of our galaxy, much less the size of our universe, you basically must believe in Aliens.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:09 AM
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Excellent story, and I am glad you posted this..


These really are the kinds of things that help connect the dots.. Insider stories, even if hearsay, carry a lot of weight as far as I'm concerned, and the story you have told is not unlike a lot of others that help clairify many other stories that have similar messages..

The thing I have found that is the worlds stumbling block, is the sociological effect that this entire subject has endured.. The disinformation campaign that is still ongoing, has been, and continues to be very effective because of that.. People are fearful of ridicule especially about coming forth and saying it might be "aliens"

People will say it is a big leap to suspect it is aliens.. When the evidence supports an alien hypothesis, I lean towards that regardless of the laughter coming from the quite proud academia gallery... Of course, one persons evidence of aliens, is another persons evidence of birds or crash test dummies.. And so, here we are again





posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:59 AM
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Cool story, bro.

I have proof aliens are already among us and making love too. Katy Perry told me.

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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 02:09 AM
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Because Im sure the US would know whatever it is flying on their land.


like the planes that crashed into the WTC and the pentagon?

LOL



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 02:22 AM
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How could Americans not believe in Ufos and aliens when they have the highest cases of Ufo crashes and personal encounters whether by chance or through abductions. The rest of the world can only boast of Ufo sightings every once in a while. Where I live in SE Asia...totally no alien or Ufo sightings at all and its so boring. I would be very excited to see one but not the flesh eating reptilians. However, over here, we just read about it.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 04:53 AM
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Most of the time I entertain the idea that various government know a lot about the UFO phenomenon, but sometimes I wounder if the governments really know what is going on. Sure maybe governments have a few downed UFOs, and maybe they have some very good videos. Hell maybe they have meet a few pilots and may have a body or two, but do they really know whats going on?

I wounder if they really know more than the average UFO/Alien junkie about the phenomenon. Maybe that is why they are so quiet about it, because they have no real clue as to what is going on and it frightens them.

As far the reporter goes, her "story" is just another among millions with no evidence. I will also go as far as saying her credibility is not better than an average Joe; especially if she is working for the jokes CBS and MSM.
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by SageBeno
Because Im sure the US would know whatever it is flying on their land.

Oh?



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:27 AM
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OFFS....

This i getting SOO anoying...

Soo, if you see something its automagicaly IDENTYFIED?!?!? Hu??

NEVER gonna happen..

Something flying wich you CANT indentify, IS A

Unidentyfied Flying Object... U:F:O

soo

Either, this story is CRAP or The General is 95 years old and have some
sierous disorders...

I however belive that Norad CAN infact identify ALL..
But not in .0000001 sec´s...
Initially its ALLWAYS Unidentyfied...PERIOD...



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:48 AM
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Ok so i was ready to berate you for your title as there is no proof one way or the other thats difinitive.

But as i read i began to understand where you were going with the title so i will save my insults for someone who deserves them.

This is a great story and i know there are those who will say pics or it did'nt happen or the guy was hoaxing about the alien footage or the general who gave the telling look was a disinfo agent or that your aunt kate interpreted his look wrong or whatever but for me this smacks of truth.

Also would like to ask you to bring your aunt onto ats to share some stories it sounds like she could give us some fascinating insights into these subjects!

I leave yiou in the love and light of the creator...



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by eleven44
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You mean why does she believe in aliens just from learning about ufo's = ifo's? She doesn't.
She believes in aliens because she saw them on home footage taken by a guy who had a piece of extraterrestrial technology removed from his neck.

Again, I've never seen the footage. But she did. And she is a very bright and critical thinker.

Plus, not believing Aliens have visited Earth is well....slightly more understandable than straight up not believing in aliens.
If you understand the size of our galaxy, much less the size of our universe, you basically must believe in Aliens.


There is a difference between alien life and a rerun of an old X-File episode. Believers of aliens among us, always use the logic, "it's a big universe and so everything is possible" but they fail to see it's a BIG universe ...hehe

They also think that life in general means advance intelligent alien life zooming around in space. To say that there is life out there is a 100% correct statement, but as we add discriminators to what kind of life that would be the odds get less and less.

Though the universe is basically endless that doesn't mean that we don't have limits. One big one is time. Solar systems started to finally appear about 9 billion years ago, so there is one limit and looking at earth it took a perfect planet 4.5 billion years to get us, and we are unique in a world that has made trillions of life forms over billions of years...can't say we are common. Another limit is stars in our galaxy, so it is estimated that about 1% of those would have a planet in the habitable zone, so we are talking about two billion planets.

This is where it get fuzzy... how many of them will have water to create advance life forms, how many are not like Venus with a runaway eco system that pushes the daily temps to 425 degrees, or not like Mars where the core cooled too quickly and it lost its protective magnetic field long before anything past simple life could take hold. Some other suggested needs are, a moon and a planet like Jupiter. If earth didn't have its moon we would not be here for the massive swing in seasons/temps would inhibit advance life to form. Also if we didn't have a giant vacuum cleaner call Jupiter life would reset on earth much more frequently to once again limit the time needed for advance life to form. The more advance life becomes the more fragile it becomes too, and we are not proof of anything for we can be wiped out in a very short period of time and almost were as resent as 12,000 years ago. It is said 99% of all life on earth is extinct, this is a process of evolution.

With all this said we can still say there are planets with advance life, but as we start to add more discriminators we once again cut the numbers down. How many of these planets created life with the intelligence to go into space. How many of these intelligent life forms have the physical capabilities to build and go into space, a smart cow is not going anywhere anytime soon.
We reach a point where we see that it is not a Star Trek utopia out there and is most likely a very lonely place when it comes to space faring races. They might be out there, but I highly doubt they are anywhere near earth.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Great OP, the title was a little misleading, but I agree with you.
For us (the people) they are still UFOs, but the US-Government knows very well who they are and what is really going on.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Check all the high fliers and their trails and name the airship.
The ships are too high up to identify.
Not a week goes by without seeing one of those flights.
Thats enough unknown to fly Teslaships around without anyone being the wiser.
I don't think with all the money invested and fleets built up and pilots assigned
that anything less than 24/7 flight are being made especially with free energy
flying machines. Just the wear an tear on the metal hull counts so we get more
plastic construction. Proof enough UFOs are in the US and other countries that
are aligned with the US.

Ed: Given the strange behavior of iron to Tesla waves we might be better off
with iron ships. Nothing to do with magnetic properties in the normal sense
only the Tesla science seems to find quantum uses.

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