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Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MrXYZ
By the way, love how you completely ignore that you just showed everyone that you didn't even know the difference between abiogenesis and evolution.
Why? Because I refuse to acknowledge the Evolutionist's equivocation fallacy? Gotcha. Any other nuggets of wisdom to share with the class?
You still haven't answered my 1 question and "we don't know yet", isn't a valid response.
How come "we don't know yet" isn't a valid answer...there is TOOOONS we don't know yet. And filling those gaps of knowledge with magic (aka gods) isn't a solution that has worked very well in the past if you think about comets, plagues, floods...all stuff that was at one point attributed to god because people filled a gap in knowledge with magic.
Not magic, intelligent design has 3 proponents, just 1 group is Creationists, and one of the groups is seeding from aliens, and the third (minor) group deals with crystals from outer space. So let's get this straight, you're allowed to believe something that secular scientists "don't know yet", but anyone else it's just "blind faith"
That's a "special pleading" fallacy. Are you trying to make at least 1 of all the fallacies known to man in one thread? Goin for the record dude? Does your brain really operate this way? How can you tell people to use logic while you're spitting out fallacies at such an alarming rate?
The actual event being studied through an experiment doesn't have to be repeatable.
I'm saying those creationists aren't providing objective evidence, which is a FACT.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MrXYZ
The actual event being studied through an experiment doesn't have to be repeatable.
Then the study of it ISN'T SCIENCE, it's a RELIGION. Even if you and your buddies in white lab coats (Biologists :lol claim the opposite.
Your God is called "random processes".
Your holy book is Origin of Species
Your ministers are Evolutionary Biologists.
And your religion shouldn't be taught in schools nor be taxpayer funded.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MrXYZ
I'm saying those creationists aren't providing objective evidence, which is a FACT.
"You must present information in peer-reviewed journals!" (But if you do just pre-clean out your desk, even if you have tenure) (Oh yeah, P.S., only OUR peer-reviewed journals of course.) (P.S.S. Forgot to mention, you'll be black-listed so I hope you have a part-time job in the wings.)
How exactly am I using a special pleading fallacy?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MrXYZ
How exactly am I using a special pleading fallacy?
Okay fine, then I have a valid response for creationism:
"We (I'm a Creation scientist now), just don't know exactly how God did it."
See, now it's not blind faith. I guess it wasn't a special pleading fallacy after all.
Did anyone see where I set down my Kool-Aid, can't seem to find it?
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MrXYZ
I'm saying those creationists aren't providing objective evidence, which is a FACT.
"You must present information in peer-reviewed journals!" (But if you do just pre-clean out your desk, even if you have tenure) (Oh yeah, P.S., only OUR peer-reviewed journals of course.) (P.S.S. Forgot to mention, you'll be black-listed so I hope you have a part-time job in the wings.)
I have no clue what you are trying to say here...are you saying peer reviews are somehow bad? People testing other people's work is bad? Really?
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MrXYZ
How exactly am I using a special pleading fallacy?
Okay fine, then I have a valid response for creationism:
"We (I'm a Creation scientist now), just don't know exactly how God did it."
See, now it's not blind faith. I guess it wasn't a special pleading fallacy after all.
Did anyone see where I set down my Kool-Aid, can't seem to find it?
Of course it's still a great example of BLIND FAITH because you still assert that god exists in the first place...yet you fail completely at providing objective evidence proving that.
Comon', it's not that hard...google it if you have to. Learn the difference between "objective" and "subjective" evidence!!
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Well then, list a couple of examples
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MrXYZ
How exactly am I using a special pleading fallacy?
Okay fine, then I have a valid response for creationism:
"We (I'm a Creation scientist now), just don't know exactly how God did it."
See, now it's not blind faith. I guess it wasn't a special pleading fallacy after all.
Did anyone see where I set down my Kool-Aid, can't seem to find it?
Of course it's still a great example of BLIND FAITH because you still assert that god exists in the first place...yet you fail completely at providing objective evidence proving that.
Comon', it's not that hard...google it if you have to. Learn the difference between "objective" and "subjective" evidence!!
You can use Google too, just sayin, it doesn't require a membership. Read my signature quote.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Well then, list a couple of examples
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Well then, list a couple of examples
Right, is your Google broke? Or do I just need to Google stuff?
Originally posted by Jordan River
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Well then, list a couple of examples
silly sppooky atheist. Anyway, the fact of the matter is when you accept both evolution and creationsim, how do u argue against that perspective? really ? I am on your side , but i am also not really
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Arguing against evolution is demonstrably silly given the amount of evidence, and personally I don't believe a creator is responsible for starting life...but at least when it comes to the creation of life I can't prove you wrong. I still think it's wrong of you to believe a creator did it though, mostly because there's ZErO objective evidence suggesting it.
So on one hand I'm happy you don't belong to the "people can live inside whales and evolution is wrong" crowd (kudos!), on the other, I can't see how you can claim a creator started life as there's a complete lack of evidence. I can respect that OPINION though because I can't prove you wrong...when it comes to taking Genesis literally I could though
Originally posted by MrsMKX
Speedbujmp
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MrXYZ
How exactly am I using a special pleading fallacy?
Okay fine, then I have a valid response for creationism:
"We (I'm a Creation scientist now), just don't know exactly how God did it."
See, now it's not blind faith. I guess it wasn't a special pleading fallacy after all.
Did anyone see where I set down my Kool-Aid, can't seem to find it?
Of course it's still a great example of BLIND FAITH because you still assert that god exists in the first place...yet you fail completely at providing objective evidence proving that.
Comon', it's not that hard...google it if you have to. Learn the difference between "objective" and "subjective" evidence!!
You can use Google too, just sayin, it doesn't require a membership. Read my signature quote.
Of course I can use Google...I do all the time.
In this case though it's you who REALLY needs it as you don't even grasp such a basic scientific concept as objective and subjective evidence
It's pretty clear though that you prefer soiling yourself in your own ignorance, so you're not even gonna look it up. Your mind is closed...
Originally posted by Jordan River
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Arguing against evolution is demonstrably silly given the amount of evidence, and personally I don't believe a creator is responsible for starting life...but at least when it comes to the creation of life I can't prove you wrong. I still think it's wrong of you to believe a creator did it though, mostly because there's ZErO objective evidence suggesting it.
So on one hand I'm happy you don't belong to the "people can live inside whales and evolution is wrong" crowd (kudos!), on the other, I can't see how you can claim a creator started life as there's a complete lack of evidence. I can respect that OPINION though because I can't prove you wrong...when it comes to taking Genesis literally I could though
Exactly we simply won on that front, I BELIEVING BOTH SIDES. and genesis. IDk thats another can of worms. So who is repsonbile for starting life? cause the universe isn't that old, imo