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Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by smyleegrl
The real question is why do we as a society (all of Western society) consider the "left wing" to be all about fuzzy bunnies and pretty rainbows? They are often the source of draconian laws (especially in Europe) and are quick to violence. Not to mention one could argue they promote the general destruction of distinct cultures in Europe with the use of Human migration, to be used as an effective tool to later destroy sovereign borders for the dream of creating a singular, all powerful, European Super State.
But ... they're the good guys.
To summarise, there is no organisation that has any business to march the streets under any description including "anti" anywhere in its name, be it anti Muslim, anti Christian, anti communist, anti capitalist, or anti atheist. The only legitimate march to participate in, the only hate banner that has EVER held legitimacy from a moral point of view, is a hatred of hate itself, and a determination to obliterate it from the present, so that our futures may be free of it.
The only legitimate march to participate in, the only hate banner that has EVER held legitimacy from a moral point of view, is a hatred of hate itself, and a determination to obliterate it from the present,
I have no problem with freedom to protest. I have a problem with freedom to protest being extended to xenophobes of any stripe however. Those who hate others based on creed, colour, race or faith have no place in a fair and decent society.
You are right, Islam does have those things you mention in it. So does the Bible. So do most religions of any long standing in fact, aside from ancient Greek and Roman traditions, which long sinced passed from religion into mythology in any case. Whats your point? Pretty empty I think.
Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by Maslo
Let me get this very straight Maslo... are you suggesting for even a second, that a person ought to have the RIGHT to abuse a person, based on prejudice and ignorance? I say NO ONE has the right to abuse a person, by hating them,by antagonising them, based purely on what they look like, what thier religion is, and what way they prey, and thank God that people in this country used to understand that implicitly, because if they had not understood this then the world today would have been a much worse place than it is.
Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by OhZone
LEARN TO READ!
I have already made my feelings clear on that note. There is nothing to do about Sharia law, because it cannot happen here, for the reasons I have already stated. As far as I am concerned, there are two ways to live in Britain. Under British law as it stands to day, or very temporarily indeed. There is no question of our nations laws ever changing, purely to accomodate the Muslim perspective, nor should it, and if there was even the remotest chance of anything like it happening, then of course I would be vocally opposed.
But I would be vocally opposed to the proposition, not the faith that spawned it, because one is fair, and the other is xenophobia, and will not be tolerated on the shores of the British Isles, if it is in my power to prevent. I can assure you, it is those who would utterly ignore the history our grandparents etched for us, who traitor themselves, not those of us who use reason instead of abandoning our fairness and decency.
These people are only just smart enough to get under a banner which is legal, but thier hearts are full of venom and they have no right to use a group of people who have done nothing to them, as a scape goat for that bile.
Originally posted by OhZone
Famous last words.
Wish I could be there to see you eat them.
You seem to be so wraped up in not being xenophobic.
I wonder what you will do when those you finally recognize that those you are being so nice to show themselves for who they really are.
Originally posted by Telos
The news is not that spread out but is interesting to see how the demonstrators are being considered as a far right wing group while the violence started by the young muslims living in Denmark.