Pennsylvania Church Kidnaps Teens, Holds Them At Gunpoint As A 'Lesson' , page 1


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Topic started on 2-4-2012 @ 12:54 AM by buni11687
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The Glad Tidings Assembly of God church in Middletown, Pa., has sparked outrage after a teaching exercise traumatized its youth group and left some with physical bruises, WHTM TV reports


A shaken 14-year-old told the station two men came into the room with guns, pulled pillow cases over some of their heads, and pushed them into a van.


The girl showed the station the bruises she suffered from the event, and claims the men laughed while she cried in the van.


Ummm....isnt this highly illegal? A mock kidnapping? In addition to that, some of the teens kidnapped suffered bruises in the event. Pretty serious stuff here.

It's actually quite serious," First Deputy District Attorney of Dauphin County Fran Chardo told the station in a separate report. "False imprisonment of a child, someone under the age of 18, is a second-degree felony punishable up to 10 years [sic] in prison."


Well, atleast the teens agreed to this 'lesson', right?.....Nope!

Since the teens never agreed to take part in the "lesson," church officials could be in legal trouble for the incident. WHTM also reported the man who "kidnapped" the teens was an off-duty cop, using a real, but unloaded, gun.


....Well then, I guess they learned their lesson and they will never do this again........Nope!

In the midst of potential legal ramifications, Andrew Jordan, the church's pastor, told WHPTV he will still continue to carry out this lesson, but he will ask for parental permission.


Here's a video that sums up the article.



What a horrible thing to do. I mean...what did the church expect? Did they expect the teens to say "Oh that was awesome, thanks for the lesson!"


reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 01:01 AM by Domo1
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BWAH ( this is an attempt at typing excitedly without caps)! I just saw that the other night. Yikes. Gave e the heebee jeebees.


reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 01:14 AM by CrypticCryptid
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The claim was that it was to teach the kids about religious persecution in foreign countries. The pastor himself said (in response to the unwilling participants' awareness) that the people who suffer this kind of thing daily don't know that it's going to happen either (paraphrasing him).

So basically, it's teaching them that people get kidnapped.


reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 01:16 AM by Domo1
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She says the pastor came out bloody, but Pastor John Lanes wasn't a victim, in fact he was a leader in what turned out to be a staged abduction to teach children about religious persecution.


Kind of would expect to see that on the same page huh? I don't get why they declined to mention WHY people were abducting kids, fake or not.

Link


"It's actually quite serious," First Deputy District Attorney of Dauphin County Fran Chardo told the station in a separate report. "False imprisonment of a child, someone under the age of 18, is a second-degree felony punishable up to 10 years [sic] in prison."


From OP's link. Yeah, doubt anything will happen because the girl is underage, the parents were probably fine with it and one was a cop. I still think charges should be brought. I don't trust a cop that commits felonies.
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reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 01:18 AM by MoosKept240
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What a cruel thing to do.
I still don't fully grasp its purpose. Seems like a video or something would be sufficient.


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I think what I posted above applies. Even a parent, why that extreme. Were they bad children? I mean, I knew when I was younger being kidnapped was a bad thing. I didn't need anyone to show me. I just don't really get it.



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reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 01:30 AM by buni11687
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Seems like a video or something would be sufficient.


I wonder what the pastors reasoning for this was? Maybe it went something like this.

Pastor - "I have an idea for our next lesson, lets teach the kids about religious persecution."
Aide - "Alright, I'll prepare a lecture on religious persecution for the next time we all meet".
Pastor - "No no...we need something that the kids will actually pay attention to. Something more entertaining than a lecture."
Aide - "Hmm, okay. Maybe I'll run down to the library and get a documentary video on this?"
Pastor - "Video? Are you serious? LoL !!! No! What kind of kids watch videos anymore? What we need to do, is make the lesson seem real."
Aide - "Real, sir? "
Pastor - "Yes, real. I mean really real.....I mean like kidnapping them. I have a police officer friend that will make sure it seems completely real, plus hes got a bunch of real guns to."
Aide - "Oh my god, that's horrible, and highly illegal!"
Pastor - 'So? Im 100% positive the kids will love it."
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reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 01:40 AM by MoosKept240
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I would be curious to see if any of the parents would approve this......

Maybe they should have a new little check box next to the "are you ready to have kids" pamphlet that reads : To teach you child about religious persecution do you

(A) Show him/her a video

(B) Have a fake kidnapping, with a real gun

(c) Talk to your child



reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 01:43 AM by Inquisitive1
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Sooo..Let's traumatize the kids by kidnapping them by gunpoint in efforts to teach them a lesson about religious persecution? This 'lesson' teaches them nothing but fear. There is nothing about it that would serve them latter on. No skills where taught. Nothing gained but panic and terrified tears. This actions seems unbalanced with the goal...


reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 01:48 AM by Katharos62191
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Poor children. That is extremely traumatic to a child, thats too far for me. I bet the pastor or cop would think twice if they themselves knew what it felt like to be held at gun point, bagged over the head and thrown into a van. This is sick. Who in the hell honestly do these men think they are to 'teach' these lessons anyways. Karma please get them. Ugh, just sick. It does also remind me of that movie recently released. What men do in the name of the Lord is insane and this is an example.


reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 02:29 AM by nightstalker78
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That article is a joke.I'm guessing some parent who didn't approve of this went and cried to the local newspaper.I can't take sources seriously when I see "Watch : Terrifying Lindsay Lohan face Morph" next to it.

ETA :This is fear mongering at it's worst.OMG! YOUR CHILDREN ARE BEING ABDUCTED!!
More then likely some parent didn't agree with it and made a big stink.
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reply posted on 2-4-2012 @ 02:32 AM by Domo1
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"Watch : Terrifying Lindsay Lohan face Morph" next to it.


That may actually be one of the more credible things spewed from the MSM as of late.



More then likely some parent didn't agree with it and made a big stink.


I think the parents are just as guilty as the faux nappers. Thing is, they should all probably be charged. I also wonder if what the parents signed up for was described accurately beforehand. Probably, but you never know.
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