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Originally posted by Helious
In point of fact, we know almost nothing about gravity. We have no idea what it is, why it's there or why it is so weak compared to the other forces. That said, we know nothing about black holes or the inner workings of a singularity other than to say..... "Known physics breaks down".
If that is the case, can we be so sure on how gravity behaves here absolutely on Earth? We obviously can't on the Moon...... There are massive gravity "hot spots" there that shouldn't exist yet they do and people are at a loss to explain them. This is witnessed not only in first hand testimony from NASA but also by a horrific success rate when It comes to probes launched to the red planet.
Originally posted by HigherLearningSociety
I know I'm making assumptions but you also got to remember, they have been drilling in our heads since we grew up that the earth is solid.... round.... mantle... core... lava.... but also have to remember how far science has gotten as well to disprove many teachings that have been made on us.
For eg. The earth is a solid, with rock then mantle and then a inner solid dense core. But the earth spins, cause forces to expel the core outward towards the crust. If the inside was a liquid lava and what not, it would stay on the outside rim as the earth spins, leaving an empty centre? Then you have to put into respect if there is an inner earth- it wouldve been made before outer earth and it would've been pushed out and solid before the crust on the outside could've been made and land / vegetation after that. it would have started inside way before it was ready to grow outside? eh?
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Geoshearer
Again: If the mass of earth were different, our orbit around the sun would be different too...as would gravity. And if Newton's forumla proving that were wrong, we couldn't accurately land space probes on the moon, Mars, and even asteroids.
Originally posted by Geoshearer
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Geoshearer
Again: If the mass of earth were different, our orbit around the sun would be different too...as would gravity. And if Newton's forumla proving that were wrong, we couldn't accurately land space probes on the moon, Mars, and even asteroids.
If you are interested in the subject you can have a look here:
www.thelivingmoon.com...
and furthermore buy the book "Gravitational Force of the sun".
You know the formulas nasa used to land probes? I don't. If you stick to f=m.a it gives a lot of mass and you will have to stick to the solid earth model (with huge presions in the interior to match your calculations).edit on 30/3/12 by Geoshearer because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MrXYZ
I read that paper a while back. The problem is that the author misinterpreted the "neutral point", which lead to goofy results.
We KNOW how strong the earth's, moon's, and Mars' gravity is because we let objects (satellites) orbit around them. If the gravity calculations were wrong, those satellites wouldn't orbit, but rather crash or fling out into space.
In short, that "paper" is pseudo-science at it's best.
Originally posted by Geoshearer
Originally posted by MrXYZ
I read that paper a while back. The problem is that the author misinterpreted the "neutral point", which lead to goofy results.
We KNOW how strong the earth's, moon's, and Mars' gravity is because we let objects (satellites) orbit around them. If the gravity calculations were wrong, those satellites wouldn't orbit, but rather crash or fling out into space.
In short, that "paper" is pseudo-science at it's best.
If you have already read it and disagree it's ok. I will stick with pseudo-science and you can continue to stick with nasa's science
Originally posted by Sinny
From a logical point of view..
I don't believe "Agartha" (if that's what its called) really exists, a sun within the planet that definitely defies the laws of science as we know them.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
The Aurora Borealis happens when sun winds hit the earth's atmosphere...they aren't "entrances".
By the way, we KNOW the earth isn't hollow because the earth's mass would be different...which would lead to a different orbit around the sun and gravity. So the entire hollow earth hypothesis is 100% nonsense I'm afraidedit on 30-3-2012 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
Originally posted by MrXYZ
The Aurora Borealis happens when sun winds hit the earth's atmosphere...they aren't "entrances".
By the way, we KNOW the earth isn't hollow because the earth's mass would be different...which would lead to a different orbit around the sun and gravity. So the entire hollow earth hypothesis is 100% nonsense I'm afraidedit on 30-3-2012 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
Hogwash. The mass of earth, planets, sun etc. are simply best guesses based on the gravitational theory which is curently prevelant. It is all unprovable at this point or in your words 100% nonsense.
Originally posted by Barcs
Originally posted by Helious
In point of fact, we know almost nothing about gravity. We have no idea what it is, why it's there or why it is so weak compared to the other forces. That said, we know nothing about black holes or the inner workings of a singularity other than to say..... "Known physics breaks down".
Um, we actually know a lot about gravity. It is spacetime displacement caused by the mass of an object taking up that respective space. Saying we have no idea, is a lie, same with your black hole analysis. We know more than THAT. Go watch a science channel documentary on black holes.
If that is the case, can we be so sure on how gravity behaves here absolutely on Earth? We obviously can't on the Moon...... There are massive gravity "hot spots" there that shouldn't exist yet they do and people are at a loss to explain them. This is witnessed not only in first hand testimony from NASA but also by a horrific success rate when It comes to probes launched to the red planet.
Please give evidence of these "hot spots" of gravity based on science.
But then there's that pesky main stream science. You know, the thing that doesn't draw conclusions on anything until evidence is presented. Hollow earth is borderline absurd.