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Israel to bar UN fact-finding team from entering

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posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Who made the IAEA the king of the world? The only warmongers are the USA. Do you know how many wars the USA has been involved in the past 200 years?




posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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Who made the IAEA the king of the world? The only warmongers are the USA. Do you know how many wars the USA has been involved in the past 200 years?


That's like asking the lion when he's preparing to eat you for dinner "Who said you could grow that big?"



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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So you want to attack Iran for the possibility that they may have nukes? How bout countries that HAVE nukes and actually do START wars.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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So you want to attack Iran for the possibility that they may have nukes? How bout countries that HAVE nukes and actually do START wars.


Can we try learning from our mistakes with NK? I mean just once can we as human beings try and learn from past mistakes so the old cliche dies the death it deserves:

"If there's one thing we learn from history its that man learns nothing from history."



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Historically, the surest way to keep what I call the Western Elite from invading/bombing your country is to actually have nuclear weapons.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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So you want to attack Iran for the possibility that they may have nukes? How bout countries that HAVE nukes and actually do START wars.


And P.S. please name one that's a Theocracy that's Eschaeteological mindset is starting world chaos so that their messiah-like typological figure can emerge on the scene.

Just one please.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by blargg
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Historically, the surest way to keep what I call the Western Elite from invading/bombing your country is to actually have nuclear weapons.


Brilliant! Lets let all countries have nuclear weapons and we'll have world peace correct?



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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This would simply speed up their end game.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by blargg
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This would simply speed up their end game.


Yes, their "end" alright.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by Black_Fox

Israel to bar UN fact-finding team from entering


news.yahoo.com

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel cut working relations with the United Nations Human Rights Council on Monday and will bar a U.N. team from entering Israel or the West Bank for a planned investigation of Jewish settlements, the Foreign Ministry said.
(visit the link for the full news article)



Israel should have been barred from the UN a long time ago. They abuse their neighbors and carry out illegal acts, they refuse to open their Nuclear arms to inspections, and they arrogantly dictate their policy over everything else.

If any other country acted in the way Israel does, they would not be in the UN.

It's about time the people stood up to their elected and forced the issue. This is actually happening in the UK, with members of the House Of Lords now openly criticizing Israel. People need to express their anger to their representatives and dispel the notion that they have public support around the world. They don't, and they never have.

The only reason governments like the UK and USA support them so blindly and overlook their criminality is because they need to appeal to the Jewish vote. If people actually expressed their opinion about Israel to their elected maybe things would start to change.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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So you want to attack Iran for the possibility that they may have nukes? How bout countries that HAVE nukes and actually do START wars.


And P.S. please name one that's a Theocracy that's Eschaeteological mindset is starting world chaos so that their messiah-like typological figure can emerge on the scene.

Just one please.


Israel is a theocracy. Israel has nukes. They are waiting for the return of their messiah too.



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by mayabong

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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So you want to attack Iran for the possibility that they may have nukes? How bout countries that HAVE nukes and actually do START wars.


And P.S. please name one that's a Theocracy that's Eschaeteological mindset is starting world chaos so that their messiah-like typological figure can emerge on the scene.

Just one please.


Israel is a theocracy


No, Israel isnt a Theocracy. The government is quite secular. Iran is under control of the religious authorities, a Grand Ayatollah. Israel has a democracy, Prime Minister and a Knesset.



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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by mayabong

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by NOTurTypical
 


So you want to attack Iran for the possibility that they may have nukes? How bout countries that HAVE nukes and actually do START wars.


And P.S. please name one that's a Theocracy that's Eschaeteological mindset is starting world chaos so that their messiah-like typological figure can emerge on the scene.

Just one please.


Israel is a theocracy


No, Israel isnt a Theocracy. The government is quite secular. Iran is under control of the religious authorities, a Grand Ayatollah. Israel has a democracy, Prime Minister and a Knesset.



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What is the difference between Netanyahu claiming Israel is a Jewish state and the ayatollah claiming Iran is an Islamic state. (none)
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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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What is the difference between Netanyahu claiming Israel is a Jewish state and the ayatollah claiming Iran is an Islamic state. (none)


Jewish refers to race, Islamic refers to religion. Iranians are Persians, their religion is Islam. Orthodox Jews practicing Judaism are the guys in all black with uncut sideburns and beards. Most Jews are secular. They have a democratically elected Knesset and Prime Minister. Iran is controlled by a Grand Ayatollah, the highest religious leader in the nation who isn't elected and serves till he dies or cedes control to his successor.

Iran = Theocracy
Israel = Democracy



posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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What is the difference between Netanyahu claiming Israel is a Jewish state and the ayatollah claiming Iran is an Islamic state. (none)


Jewish refers to race, Islamic refers to religion. Iranians are Persians, their religion is Islam. Orthodox Jews practicing Judaism are the guys in all black with uncut sideburns and beards. Most Jews are secular. They have a democratically elected Knesset and Prime Minister. Iran is controlled by a Grand Ayatollah, the highest religious leader in the nation who isn't elected and serves till he dies or cedes control to his successor.

Iran = Theocracy
Israel = Democracy


So jews are a race. And Israel is a Jewish state. Hmm sounds like hitlers ideas . Actually a theocracy souunds better to live under. You Christians never cease to amaze.
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posted on Apr, 20 2012 @ 11:05 PM
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Use Google, it's free for Pete's sake. Or don't use a red herring. Be an adult and admit Iran is a Theocracy and Israel is a Democracy.




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posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Use Google, it's free for Pete's sake. Or don't use a red herring. Be an adult and admit Iran is a Theocracy and Israel is a Democracy.




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How can you say a state that claims to be a home for one race (your words) of people a democracy? They gotta keep saying this so people like you will keep blindly supporting them. You'd be ok if florida declared itself an afrian american state? or if minnesota declared itself an anglo saxon state?

Like I said a theocracy seems better to live under if I had to pick one or the 2.

Did you know its illegal for a christian to try to convert a jew in Israel and you can be thrown in prison? and you people support them.
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posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Might as well abandon the ad hominems, i refuse to give them any acknowledgment. Moving on..

Democracy means the officals are elected by a democratic process. It has nothibg to do with race. Jews can vote. Even secular ones.

What does google say? Is Israel a democracy or not?


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posted on Apr, 21 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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NOTurTypical, bong is clearly desperately trying to sling dirt at Israel because the fact that Iran is a Theocracy while Israel is secular, apparently gets to him. This is exactly how people who are mad at facts behave, they start trying to twist words or make reality fit to their argument. Pathetic really, no need to get overly excited about tho.

Let's make it easy,
Israel:
Full name - State of Israel
Government type - Democracy

Israel is a representative democracy with a parliamentary system, proportional representation and universal suffrage. The Prime Minister serves as head of government and the Knesset serves as Israel's unicameral legislative body.

Head of the country - A Prime Minister bound by the Knesset which is bound by the Supreme Court.

Iran:
Full name - Islamic Republic of Iran.
Government type - Theocracy

In December 1979, the country approved a theocratic constitution, whereby Khomeini became Supreme Leader of the country

Head of the country - A 'Supreme Leader' bound by nothing. ...



You can argue all you want using silly rhetorics comparing Israel to Nazi Germany just because it is the self declared home of the Jews, but facts are facts.
Iran has religious law that rules the streets, Israel has a modern secular one.
In Iran you can get hanged for blasphemy.
In Israel the most religious law there is, is one that stops shops from selling full wheat bread in Passover period, and that law is barely even monitored.

Simply debating about what are the differences between Iran and Israel and who's a Theocratic religious regime and who's not is stupid. It's so easy to find the answer that just reading the debate makes it funny, let alone participate in it.
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