We need a one world government, whether you like it or not.

reply to post by muse7

This will cause all kinds of wars to happen and will much worse than what we have today. It just aint possible to implement a world government like this when there are so many different religions and cultures.

Originally posted by Jace26
reply to post by Azadok

 

Thats exactly right, the tower of Babylon (multicultural country) was constructed thousands of years ago, but God didn't want people to mix so he destroyed the tower.

The same will happen with the NWO. You fools, the NWO is a satan device.

This 'God' you speak of, whom was most likely some Hi Tech Human or 'alien', wanted nothing more than Slaves, and your religious thoughts are proof enough. Reread the Babel story and you will see that the 'god wanted the Tower destroyed because of his FEAR that UNITED, Humans could Achieve ANYTHING that they set their minds to do. Same with the NWO, they really have Christians and other Messiah religions fooled. Conquer and divide is what they do best.
Yes we do need a United Humanity.
A United Humanity that grows up from a LOCAL level will be more likely to succeed in making a 'One World Government' work. I have long realized that the Conquer by division mode of working things out for the 1% is what is the real issue, they have us by the balls because we fight so much among ourselves. THEY LOVE THAT.
Keep the downtrodden begging for 'more porridge' while Dividing the Governments by FEAR of the OTHER (whom are Human also)
I Long ago declared myself a Citizen of Planet Earth, meaning my HUMANITY Comes before my Race, Sex, Nationality etc etc. Only by Uniting us at that level will we ever succeed in creating a "World Government' That works.
In regards to calling it a World Government, I prefer the sound and meaning of World Federation of Local Governments. Everything will have to be understood to come from a Local level, bottom up,,, not TOP DOWN, like the NWO shills want us to succumb to by default. They will win if we do not realize it must be Bottom Up,, from the grassroot level of Individual Humans.
We have the Technology to impliment what Bucky Fuller said we should have done back in the 70's when he wrote his Masterpiece in my mind the book: CRITICAL PATH
We missed out on a great opportunity to implement his Science years ago,, but maybe it is not to late.
That is ONE method a UNITED HUMANITY could work towards.
So, Yes we need a ''World Federation"
NO we do not need a NWO run by the same bastard elite 1% who run the show now.
NO we don't have to have more BIG GOVERNMENT, just because it is called One World Government, it can be BOTTOM UP not TOP DOWN.
YES we are running out of time to make these changes.
NO it is not Hopeless.
Everyone should read or reread Buckminster Fullers work in CRITICAL PATH. The man was our shining star we have forgotten.
Religion should have no part in this as they (religions)don't even realize they are BABEL, not the idea of Humans UNITED TOGETHER.

It is/has to be the future.
There is no getting around it.
It's the ultra wealthy that fight this through shills.
If everyone working gets a wage that will sustain them,
(and there is plenty in profits to do this)
wars will drop in number quickly. But let's remember
it's the ultra-wealthy that beat the war drums .

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Because a one-world government will unite us, right? We will no longer be separated by language, culture, morals, race, geography...

Get your head out of your a$$ and stop daydreaming.

I just re-read your OP and I am getting even more pissed. You socialists are such morons it is mind-boggling. You may as well say "I think there should be a pill that we can take so that we never age and that teaches us how to play kumbaya on the guitar. And we should make it law that bluebirds must chirp outside our window every morning as we wake up."

COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY.

edit on 17-3-2012 by AwakeinNM because: (no reason given)

Instead of making Stupid analogies via,, 'bluebirds much chirp outside' nonsense,,, why don't you tell us how to have a United Humanity? Follow whom? Follow Capitalism? Follow What to achieve this? If anyone is out of touch with reality it is the Pessimist whom don't realize that Humans can ACHIEVE ANYTHING when they are United in MIND to do so. Get Real,, Your type of thinking is what chains Humanity to the cyclical wheel of despots and tyranny.

reply to post by EarthCitizen23


Another new age granola muncher living in their own science-fiction reality.

Do you know how many "citizens of planet earth" can't even read, much less read Buckminster Fuller, while you drive around in your Prius spouting off about how everyone should be magically "united"? United HOW, exactly? How about some details of this science fiction government you have in your head. How about a little more information, rather than the same old liberal drivel about everyone being "united" in some nonexistent utopia.

Sorry about the cynicism, but I am really getting tired of hearing about this fantasy land that has never existed and will never exist, no matter how hard you people want to legislate it in to existence.

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
reply to post by Johncarter12345

 

A one-world government wold be ideal... in theory, if governments were benevolent. But they are NOT. When is the last time you heard about a benevolent government?

Why do you think the founding fathers of the US wrote the second amendment? Because they knew that governments by their very nature are prone to corruption and unchecked growth, no exceptions. And you want that on a global scale?

Have a tasty slice of reality pie and then get back to me.

Your confused, the reason they're not is because there is not yet a "one world government" we have never heard of a benevolent government true, because there all fighting each other for the safty of there own people and wealth to gain more strength and power to beat down each other, all this will stop under a "one world government because who is there left to fight? no one = peace on earth

The problem is people fear that then we'll all be lock up and the 1% will enslave us all, lol, not really going to happen, the people will likely rise up as happens everywhere throughout history and then, that will truely be "One United World"

So either way, we the people win, which is the main reason i would just wish somebody can hurry up and achive this, because from then - to now, the longer that takes to achieve the more war in between that gap,

And worst of all if it fails, were back in the dark ages, and we all have to wait for somebody else to achieve it, i think mankind has likely got 50-80yrs "tops" to achieve this goal, anything after that and its possible well all be gone as the weapons get more destructive, or that somehow civilization splits in two and we take this war into space, where we have two factions or more in a star wars scenario,

reply to post by jaduguru


Amen, there is room for both Individualism and Compassion I believe. It is the shortsighted who blind the majority to think theirs is the only way of being.
The ME ME shills and greed is the wall we must bring down along with the Elite who rule over the dumbed down masses.
United Humanity means we are only as good as our Weakest Link,, thus we must strive to Empower the Weakest of us to Make Earth a place filled with Prosperity, not Wars for Oil and Rich 1% Elites.
There is plenty to do, but I think the FEAR MONGERS being louder will drown the Optimists among us out.

I agree with you totally,, most have no clue while living in their bubble worlds filled with American Idol and Football to keep their small minds occupied while ''Rome'' (EARTH) Burns around them.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Because a one-world government will unite us, right? We will no longer be separated by language, culture, morals, race, geography...

Get your head out of your a$$ and stop daydreaming.

I just re-read your OP and I am getting even more pissed. You socialists are such morons it is mind-boggling. You may as well say "I think there should be a pill that we can take so that we never age and that teaches us how to play kumbaya on the guitar. And we should make it law that bluebirds must chirp outside our window every morning as we wake up."

COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY.

edit on 17-3-2012 by AwakeinNM because: (no reason given)

Instead of making Stupid analogies via,, 'bluebirds much chirp outside' nonsense,,, why don't you tell us how to have a United Humanity? Follow whom? Follow Capitalism? Follow What to achieve this? If anyone is out of touch with reality it is the Pessimist whom don't realize that Humans can ACHIEVE ANYTHING when they are United in MIND to do so. Get Real,, Your type of thinking is what chains Humanity to the cyclical wheel of despots and tyranny.

You've just shown why you don't understand..."why don't you tell us how to have a United Humanity?"

You CAN'T have a united humanity. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

The day that you can travel to Africa or China, for example, and easily assimilate into their societies with NO language or cultural barriers whatsoever, then we can talk about uniting the planet. Until then, let's concentrate on getting our own sh!t together. How about let's try that first, okay? I seriously don't give a crap about other countries when people are putting racist bumper stickers on their cars and being spoon fed constant lies by our own "news" media. We have a lot of problems we need to overcome here, and worrying about how we need to "unite the planet" is pointless. Get a grip already.

Originally posted by juleol
reply to post by muse7

 

This will cause all kinds of wars to happen and will much worse than what we have today. It just aint possible to implement a world government like this when there are so many different religions and cultures.

It is possible without wars and problems

Because all races religions and colors cultures and genders gays straits etc live peacefully inside the west, this shows the model works and it can be done as diverse as possible, so i don't think it would be a problem in the scenario the OP is talking about, in fact i think all those problems would disappear fairly quickly,

As we can see they'll be no neglect of one such people or previous nation as resources will be shared equally as well as food and job etc, and if they ever was, the world would act united in an outcry,

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
reply to post by jaduguru

 

Amen, there is room for both Individualism and Compassion I believe. It is the shortsighted who blind the majority to think theirs is the only way of being.
The ME ME shills and greed is the wall we must bring down along with the Elite who rule over the dumbed down masses.
United Humanity means we are only as good as our Weakest Link,, thus we must strive to Empower the Weakest of us to Make Earth a place filled with Prosperity, not Wars for Oil and Rich 1% Elites.
There is plenty to do, but I think the FEAR MONGERS being louder will drown the Optimists among us out.

I agree with you totally,, most have no clue while living in their bubble worlds filled with American Idol and Football to keep their small minds occupied while ''Rome'' (EARTH) Burns around them.

This is your flawed thinking. For there to be a united planet, everyone must espouse the compassionate, optimistic ideals that you say you have. But in the same breath you admit the existence of fear mongers and selfish elites. THEN in one sentence you say that the 'shortsighted' people blind the MAJORITY, then change your mind and say that "MOST have no clue while living in their bubble worlds...".

Dude, you can't even get your own story straight. Try using your left hemisphere for a while - it might enlighten you more than you think you already are.

Originally posted by WarriorOfTheLight

Originally posted by juleol
reply to post by muse7

 

This will cause all kinds of wars to happen and will much worse than what we have today. It just aint possible to implement a world government like this when there are so many different religions and cultures.

It is possible without wars and problems

Because all races religions and colors cultures and genders gays straits etc live peacefully inside the west, this shows the model works and it can be done as diverse as possible, so i don't think it would be a problem in the scenario the OP is talking about, in fact i think all those problems would disappear fairly quickly,

As we can see they'll be no neglect of one such people or previous nation as resources will be shared equally as well as food and job etc, and if they ever was, the world would act united in an outcry,

You are basically saying that it is possible to legislate human nature. Then you say something like "Because all races religions and colors cultures and genders gays straits etc live peacefully inside the west" which is clearly a FANTASY. If you think that statement is true, then you'd also believe that gays and minorities have absolutely the same rights as white males and there is no longer a need for affirmative action, or gay pride parades, or any of that, correct? And people would never even think to put a racist bumper sticker on their car in this peaceful western society. Am I right?

If you truly believe that, tell me what you're smoking, because I wanna live in that world, too.

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
reply to post by EarthCitizen23

 

Another new age granola muncher living in their own science-fiction reality.

Do you know how many "citizens of planet earth" can't even read, much less read Buckminster Fuller, while you drive around in your Prius spouting off about how everyone should be magically "united"? United HOW, exactly? How about some details of this science fiction government you have in your head. How about a little more information, rather than the same old liberal drivel about everyone being "united" in some nonexistent utopia.

Sorry about the cynicism, but I am really getting tired of hearing about this fantasy land that has never existed and will never exist, no matter how hard you people want to legislate it in to existence.

I don't understand how you can't grasp it, i think you maybe throwing problems into the mix that are a direct result of division and the lack of a "one world government, which will disappear when we are united, its a fairly concept to grasp and understand

Originally posted by WarriorOfTheLight

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
reply to post by EarthCitizen23

 

Another new age granola muncher living in their own science-fiction reality.

Do you know how many "citizens of planet earth" can't even read, much less read Buckminster Fuller, while you drive around in your Prius spouting off about how everyone should be magically "united"? United HOW, exactly? How about some details of this science fiction government you have in your head. How about a little more information, rather than the same old liberal drivel about everyone being "united" in some nonexistent utopia.

Sorry about the cynicism, but I am really getting tired of hearing about this fantasy land that has never existed and will never exist, no matter how hard you people want to legislate it in to existence.

I don't understand how you can't grasp it, i think you maybe throwing problems into the mix that are a direct result of division and the lack of a "one world government, which will disappear when we are united, its a fairly concept to grasp and understand

I am not throwing "problems" into the mix, I am throwing "reality" into it. Something you are not familiar with, apparently.

I'd rather not let this thread devolve into a pissing match with someone as out of touch as you are, so I'm out.

Hmmm... Let's see...

You wanna trade hundreds of corrupted governments for a One World Corrupted Government?

Will that change anything?

We need to see our "leaders" use Honesty and Honour a little more, supported by Just Actions.

Aside from that, you get screwed all the way down to the floor.

reply to post by AwakeinNM


Again, YOU SHOW, you don't 'get it'. I said that it needs to be Bottom up in agreement that at a local level things need to be sorted out and ''fixed''. But you are very wrong about getting along with other humans. Maybe you should get out from under your Hill Billy.
I have travel outside of my corner of the world and found Humans to be,,, well,,, Human. Regardless of culture, language and other obstacles,,, I got along fine with others EVEN AT A TIME OF WAR!
Humans all want the same things, so you are wrong.
We can Work Locally and at the Same time THINK GLOBALLY.
You are short sighted and have no clue about how anyone outside of your small minded circle lives, breathes, eats and works. Come out from under your shell.

I don't drive a Prius,, I drive a 1986 Ford Escort. I am far from being a New Age Granola Muncher,,, even though I Live my life as I believe and espouse,, so yes I am Vegetarian if that is what you mean. I do believe in living as we talk,,, so I Walk my Talk.
I am well informed also about Illiterates who can not read,, unlike yourself being Literate,, and maybe don't read enough to fully understand the dynamics of how the world does work,,, but also Imaginative enough to see how it CAN WORK.
I am sorry you are such a cynic, I do understand your plight of shortsightedness,, you are not alone, sorry for that.
I did point out a direction ,, Buckminster Fuller,, whom if I recall is one of the greatest scientific minds this planet has produced,,, so Science Fiction??? not hardly,,, and even so,,, Science Fiction is a good place to find the ideas we need to work upon so don't knock it... Again if I recall Issac Asimov thought up the idea of Communication Satelites in a Science Fiction Story.
Also,, what is the Counter to my LIBERAL DRIVAL?? tell me please your Far Right Wing Vision of the Future? Do you have one, save what someone told YOU? You talk Big Smack, but it is obvious your not as intelligent as you pretend.
Authoritarian I would guess is what you really are, ,,, a Follower, with no good ideas yourself,, so you Knock those who Think Outside the Box, because of your own inability to think creatively about situations.
Sorry you are so ''tired of hearing about this fantasy'' ,,, maybe you should take a break and read a good book to relax some,,, again I suggest Critical Path. to see that we might have missed the boat,,, your right. Does not mean we have to believe in the Distopia's you present (Wait,,, you haven't presented an alternative,,, )
Never mind,,, I see your cynical mind is closed.

As far as getting my story straight,,,
Just because one recognizes the Elite, the Fear Mongers and such,,,, does not mean I have flawed thinking about this matter,,, it just means I am a Realistic person who sees the Issues at hand,,, but at the same time am able to think OUTSIDE of the BOX they have Captured you Inside.

Sorry for your troubles, good luck with that Cynical Mind thing,,, I do understand,,, been there myself.
We are in this Together,,, even if you don't want me by your side.

reply to post by AwakeinNM


Yes, run away from the problem; that seems to fit your egocentric babbling just fine. If you can't grasp what they are saying then maybe you should try to understand their point of view, not the other way around. All your posts in this thread seem to cry about "reality", but your idea of reality tastes like oil and gunpowder and reeks of selfishness. See where that kind of "reality" takes us. Oh right... NOWHERE. Your idea of reality is the real illusion here because it's the one they set up for you. Your kind of thinking and ideas are some examples of what's holding the human race back.

The puppet-masters just love this breed of human because they come with strings already attached, apparently.

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by WarriorOfTheLight

Originally posted by juleol
reply to post by muse7

 

This will cause all kinds of wars to happen and will much worse than what we have today. It just aint possible to implement a world government like this when there are so many different religions and cultures.

It is possible without wars and problems

Because all races religions and colors cultures and genders gays straits etc live peacefully inside the west, this shows the model works and it can be done as diverse as possible, so i don't think it would be a problem in the scenario the OP is talking about, in fact i think all those problems would disappear fairly quickly,

As we can see they'll be no neglect of one such people or previous nation as resources will be shared equally as well as food and job etc, and if they ever was, the world would act united in an outcry,

You are basically saying that it is possible to legislate human nature. Then you say something like "Because all races religions and colors cultures and genders gays straits etc live peacefully inside the west" which is clearly a FANTASY. If you think that statement is true, then you'd also believe that gays and minorities have absolutely the same rights as white males and there is no longer a need for affirmative action, or gay pride parades, or any of that, correct? And people would never even think to put a racist bumper sticker on their car in this peaceful western society. Am I right?

If you truly believe that, tell me what you're smoking, because I wanna live in that world, too.

edit on 17-3-2012 by AwakeinNM because: (no reason given)

Is there any war within western country's? no and there won't be in a one world government

Gay pride marches are not violent wars, and through there marches they have gain more rights such as gay marriage, that called progression and has only been aloud in western society, but this is irrelevant still, and they're all minor minor issues that will be sorted out when there are no external wars, especially with ethnic minorities and the tensions caused within the minorities which are still minor issues... now heres where your failing to understand why... they will no longer be minorities, and there will be no external problem to crate problems within them,

And also my friend, when job resources are shared equally in a "one world government" minority will move out into there native majorities, they only moved into the west for a better future to chase work, and to give there families a better life, and they did this because of the over country's greed, and those very country's did that to provide there people with more than they needed, and to not be trampled on by the big bullys in the world, its all linked, they become the big bullys, because its human nature, thats just what we do, from the school playground right up into adult hood, a nation is no different since its a man that runs them, we can expect the same traits, like a king or queen of old or a government today, the same thing will show,

The point is War will become a thing of the past,

starvation will become a thing of the past,

This list is endless i wont bother

But the point is, all that you point out is a direct result of division, there is enough to go around, but why is any country going to be fair and share when that country may get stronger and take what they had? that is the worry and that is why there is war a racial tensions because the minorities are seeing the country they live in go beat up there native country for resources, IT IS ALL TIED IN, if a green man is fighting a blue man, guess what when they start fighting over more food they'll learn to hate each other and call each other names, colors/racism will disappear under one roof united, because they'll be nothing to upset them, its simple to understand, every single problem in the world is because were divided..

its the same reason you don't call your brother a c*** for having a better job or car because your family, but its ok to call someone you don't know a c*** for having a better job or car, or worse go punch them, but when you all have the same money & job, you know what hes not so bad is he, i mean theres so many way to explain it, you just have to understand how you yourself thinks and why, and covert peoples actions into nations, its absolutely no different, we need to stop hating each other for these things because anyone of you would have done the same, we need to look at these things forgive and forget and tackle them together, and i can think of only one way, SHARE, HOW DO WE SHARE? UNITE, problem being with people like you its going to take some time,

Sorry, but I totally disagree with the need for a one world government. The only time there will ever be peace and good living, is when we stop thinking that we need someone else to run everything. Only when we transcend the need to have any government at all is, will there be peace. We were not meant to bow down to anyone, and certainly not those that seek power for themself in the form of a government, police etc. As long as there is power to be had over others, evil will rule this world.

The evil does not rule me. I bow to no one, I am my own man.

Originally posted by NowanKenubi
Hmmm... Let's see...

You wanna trade hundreds of corrupted governments for a One World Corrupted Government?

Will that change anything?

We need to see our "leaders" use Honesty and Honour a little more, supported by Just Actions.

Aside from that, you get screwed all the way down to the floor.

Nobody is saying it will be easy, and it will happen and be perfect right away,

But our government are corrupt because because they're constantly fighting each other,

But we are NOT one though so how can we become one?

The people living in Africa are not the same ones living in Canada and are to eachother what a lion and tiger are to eachother.

Please get away from this modern age ''we are all one'' hippie mindless bullcr*p.

Extinction and/or no more advancement(obviously) would come if the NWO is enforced.