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Mass Communist Eruption in April?

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posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:26 AM
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Mass Communist Eruption in April?






Is some kind of commie uprising coming in April? You be the judge, ATS. I don’t know about you but I smell a bit, fat commie rat.

Now let me give you a bit of background, ATS. It all started when I was browsing in my city’s local underground bookshop and coffeehouse, a longtime gathering place around these parts for anarchists, commies, and various other varieties of left-leaning vermin. Being a veteran commie-watcher, I tend to swing by there once or twice a week to see if I can catch wind of any commie goings-on. I may have stumbled onto a biggie this time.

The topic in question this time is the 2012 Organizer, a tiny spiral-bound pocket date book for commie organizers. The publication is created by “Justseeds & Eberhardt Press”, seemingly a joint venture from two hardcore commie outfits, Justseeds and Eberhardt Press. Here on the cover we have a picture of a communist activist, an American flag (no doubt for burning or some other form of desecration) leaping a fence in what can only be an illegal action of some kind.



The publication seems to be a datebook or “organizer for organizers,” i.e., for communist organizers. The title, clearly is a pun: The book is an organizer in the sense of a datebook, but it is also for “2012’s [communist] organizers.” What’s a communist organizer?

Is an “organizer” the same thing as a COMMUNITY ORGNIZER?







Actually, in “the movement,” an organizer is a CADRE. What is a cadre? A cadre is another name for a Professional Communist Revolutionary:


In Leninist Marxism, Professional revolutionaries, (or a cadre), is a body of devoted communists who spend the majority of their free time organizing their party toward a mass revolutionary party capable of leading a workers' revolution. The size of this core is naturally proportional to the size of the party itself…In Lenin's original work the purpose of the cadre is to educate the masses and essentially bring the entire population to the level of "professional revolutionaries", but it was not a requirement that the whole population, or even a majority, be at or near such level before seizing power in a communist revolution. At its highest point of membership, in the 1980s, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union contained only 18 million out of a total area population of 280 million, and it is unknown how small fraction of those 18 million could have been regarded "professional revolutionaries".




Here are some cadres:









So, what we appear to have here is a schedule book for Communist Cadres.




Now the first thing I noticed when I opened the organizer is a “phases of the moon” calendar in the first few pages?. Why wouldn’t they have a normal calendar? Why a moon phase calendar?



The moon, of course, has all sorts of connotations – the ascendency of the feminine over the masculine, a symbol of Satan and witchcraft, wicca and paganism, subversion and anti-Christianity. Commies are subversive anti-Christians too. Tell you what, we’ll leave aside this line of thought for the time being and go on.

Most of the pages of the organizer appear pretty unremarkable. For example, he’s a typical page, the page for this week, as an example:



…so far so good. Until we get to APRIL. Before the calendar pages for the month of April begins, we have this two-page spread:



ONE BIG UNION. APRIL. Huh. I’m thinking, ATS. And I don’t like what I think.

What happens in April that is so special for Communist Organizers? What is the “ONE BIG UNION” ? What are we looking at, people? A mass commie eruption and global frenzy?

Hang on, ATS. Things are going to get interesting.








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posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:33 AM
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I laugh at Occupy. They stand around in public parks, or on public streets. Here in my hometown, they protested outside a Walmart Distribution Center where people are making $12/hr at the most. If they wanted to make an impact, they should be at the CEO's homes, dragging them into the street. But, we know that will never happen, because the morons at Occupy think $12/hr is the top 1% apparently.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:40 AM
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Someone been's exposed to too much anti-communism propaganda.
Communism itself isn't bad. It's been implemented terribly in the past, don't get me wrong. That doesn't mean equality of labor and wages is a bad thing. It's when communism is combined with dictatorships, and freedoms are taken away when communism turns sour. Communism doesn't mean censorship. You CAN still have all of your freedoms with communism.

1% owns 70% of the wealth...yeah capitalism is so great!
Both systems are ECONOMIC models, not social models.


I can find pictures of American soldiers marching just like(changing the flag, of course) those communist soldiers if you'd like. And I can find pictures of American soldiers holding guns to people's heads too!


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posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:41 AM
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Wow, occupy hasn't really worked. Yet, you don't have to assault a left leaning theory, with harsh right dogmatism that's not going to bring us together and solve anything.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:41 AM
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Is an “organizer” the same thing as a COMMUNITY ORGNIZER?


Yes, obviously there could only ever be one type of organizer in the history of the world. You are such a genius.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:43 AM
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Darn it, I always get left out of the loop on these things, and I'm the cadre for my entire state!

Shoot, better trigger up the shortwave radio and tune in to my secret commie channel to see if its too late to get in on the action! Or maybe I'd better use my messenger pigeons.

(I'm being sarcastic in case somebody here's too thick to pick it up, You wouldn't think this kind of disclaimer would be needed, but after seeing this thread, apparently it is).

On a slightly less snarky note, I devoutely hope the OP is 110% correct.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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I play the part of an organizer at times....

ah, you caught me - they aren't concerts, they're communist conventions!

WTF kinda farrrrr reaching crap is this?

peace out cadre... i mean PADRE.... my bad

Failed Prophet



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 12:47 AM
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Well, personally, I think April and September are months that bring bad things. Hitler was born in April. Titanic sunk in April, etc...
I am so afraid for this country.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:06 AM
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The premise of a communist uprising going down in April is the so called organizer/planner. A simple search shows that it is simply a calendar sold by artists in Pittsburgh.



Justseeds Artists’ Cooperative is a decentralized network of 26 artists committed to making print and design work that reflects a radical social, environmental, and political stance.


www.justseeds.org...
en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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You can not compare what real communists want with what happened in China, or Russia etc.

Two completely different ideologies.

Communism, which is a form of socialism, is simply an economic system, not the political systems of so called 'communist countries' that are neither socialist or communist.

Unless the countries workers own the means of production it is neither socialism, nor communism.

All you are doing is showing you have fallen for the state propaganda of western governments controlled by capitalist interests.

It's not a 'communist eruption', it's simply people waking up from the 'dream' and seeing reality. It usually takes hard times for that to happen, fat and happy people don't rock the boat.

All forms of socialism, communism anarchism, were created by the people, not authorities. TPTB simply appropriated left wing terms, as did the USA, and conned their populations into supporting them.


As Socialism in general, Anarchism was born among the people; and it will continue to be full of life and creative power only as long as it remains a thing of the people.

dwardmac.pitzer.edu...



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:14 AM
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S/F for the effort on putting that together. So many are 1 or two paragraph threads these days, I'm glad to see you really showed a variety of material on this one.

I agree with you 100% about the nature of the money and those who organized it from the earliest days. I don't think 95% of the people IN Occupy are aware of how they're being played for a much larger agenda....and one that started decades before most of them were born.

As far as April though, I'm not holding my breath. If anything, I'll be interested to see how May Day is handled this year, if Occupy does make a major come back to previous numbers in the cities. The rumbling is there for that to happen, anyway.

November and December brought statements of a national convergence on D.C. in March though, and I'm sure not seeing that happening now that March is here...

Like everything in Occupy, I think they'll play it by ear.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK

Unless the workers Government owns seizes the means of production it is neither socialism, nor communism.


Fixed that for you

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posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by sickofitall2012
Well, personally, I think April and September are months that bring bad things. Hitler was born in April. Titanic sunk in April, etc...
I am so afraid for this country.




What happened in September?



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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I read up until I reached this point....


Originally posted by FailedProphet

Now the first thing I noticed when I opened the organizer is a “phases of the moon” calendar in the first few pages?. Why wouldn’t they have a normal calendar? Why a moon phase calendar?



The moon, of course, has all sorts of connotations – the ascendency of the feminine over the masculine, a symbol of Satan and witchcraft, wicca and paganism, subversion and anti-Christianity. Commies are subversive anti-Christians too. Tell you what, we’ll leave aside this line of thought for the time being and go on.



...and realized you'd thrown out all logic and reason. What does the moon have to do with the topic of your op? You do realize that Easter (a pretty big deal in Christian mythology) comes on the Sunday immediately after the Paschal Full Moon each year? Oh, but what am I talking about, Easter is a "pagan" holiday anyway.



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posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by METACOMET

Originally posted by ANOK

Unless the workers Government owns siezes the means of production it is neither socialism, nor communism.


Fixed that for you


Wrong. Anarchism is a form of socialism, and obvioulsy requires no government.

"Anarchism is stateless socialism", Mikhail Bakunin.

Socialism is an economic system, no government required.

Government ownership is nationalism, not socialism.

Once again, unless the countries workers own the means of production it is neither socialism, nor communism.


edit on 3/17/2012 by ANOK because: It's a commie takeover Harry



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by Ghost375
Someone been's exposed to too much anti-communism propaganda.
Communism itself isn't bad. It's been implemented terribly in the past, don't get me wrong. That doesn't mean equality of labor and wages is a bad thing. It's when communism is combined with dictatorships, and freedoms are taken away when communism turns sour. Communism doesn't mean censorship. You CAN still have all of your freedoms with communism.

1% owns 70% of the wealth...yeah capitalism is so great!
Both systems are ECONOMIC models, not social models.


I can find pictures of American soldiers marching just like(changing the flag, of course) those communist soldiers if you'd like. And I can find pictures of American soldiers holding guns to people's heads too!


edit on 17-3-2012 by Ghost375 because: (no reason given)


I think that Communism is great...as a theory. But when you involve human beings you begin to have problems. Human beings have ambitions and Communism stifles that. It places everyone on a level playing field, which would be great if emotions and desire weren't involved. Some people will never have enough and they will continually try to take away what others have (even in Communism).

Also, placing so much power with one group is always dangerous. A self-perpetuating political party is a dangerous one. Of course they will eventually abuse this power. Maybe the first leader would be benevolent. That would be spectacular, but eventually one would come along that would be way off the deep end. With no way to democratically change the system the only solution left would be revolution.

I'm not saying capitalism is great, because it isn't, but Communism has been shown to be worse. Human nature will always get in the way, no matter what form of government is in place. That's part of the human condition I guess.


I gladly welcome any response or rebuttal. If there is a better way, we should find a way to make it happen.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:32 AM
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I think that Communism is great...as a theory. But when you involve human beings you begin to have problems. Human beings have ambitions and Communism stifles that. It places everyone on a level playing field, which would be great if emotions and desire weren't involved. Some people will never have enough and they will continually try to take away what others have (even in Communism).

Also, placing so much power with one group is always dangerous. A self-perpetuating political party is a dangerous one. Of course they will eventually abuse this power. Maybe the first leader would be benevolent.


The same can be said for religion, all other forms of government, and corporate business, etc.
This country was designed to be for the people, by the people, but look what happens when
people are allowed to "run" things.

Political, Business, and Religious ideology don't need to change. People do.




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posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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I agree with you 100%. I would like to think that people can change, but with a population of 6.8 million people I'm sad to say I don't see it being possible. Too many different personalities.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:40 AM
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Wrong!

#1 Anarchism is not a form of socialism.
#2 Anarchism is not stateless socialism.
#3 Socialism is not simply an economic system, it certainly does require a government.
#4 government ownership is statism.

See how easy this is when I just make statements with no logic to back them up?

#1 Anarchism is emancipation from the rule of the state. There can be anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-socialism and everything in between. Anarchism and socialism being mutually exclusive is laughable.
#2 this statement is incorrect for the same reason as above.
#3 Socialism does require a government because socialism inherently requires central planning
#4 The collectivization of the means of production requires rationing by means of a planning board or tsar or whatever fuzzy word you want to call it. It is the only employer. All labor becomes compulsory labor because the "employee" must accept what the board deigns to offer him. On the other end of the spectrum it also determines what and how much the consumer may consume.
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posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by Ruke37
I think that Communism is great...as a theory. But when you involve human beings you begin to have problems. Human beings have ambitions and Communism stifles that. It places everyone on a level playing field, which would be great if emotions and desire weren't involved. Some people will never have enough and they will continually try to take away what others have (even in Communism).


I think that's about as good a way as I've ever heard it put and better than I've managed to say it. I think Communism is every bit the Utopia Lenin and Marx considered the underlying concepts to be. On Paper. In the real world, I believe the system's whole concept of central planning to the ultimate level requires absolute power to be concentrated in the hands of the few or the one.

We all know what absolute power does...and I've yet to see a real exception to that in the long term where a leader didn't leave power of their own choosing. Thus ends Communism as any realistic form of idealogoy to base much of anything on. Human Nature will corrupt it every time...and has..every time.



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