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Originally posted by User8911
Yes and they used that part of the plot in Parasite Eve a really good video game.
Last human DNA modification could have been 5000 to 10000 years ago, that could be possible. But unless I'm wrong, creationists usually believe that the whole planet, poof, arrived magically and everything on it in 7 days and this was God's doing. If this existence is some type of matrix, sure this theory is plausible.
If we have been modified by aliens, that means that they are not gods and they come either from evolution of a god. Of course, we could also be part of God...or part of an atom...
Natural selection doesn't 100% prove that evolution is the truth, but it proves that evolution is a fact that would affect even creationists. Adapt or die will always be true in this universe.
Seriously? You bring physicality into this? Whatever, dude... I´ve been hosting a party all evening, got a nasty road rash on my cheek, and about to have a high quality Ménage à trois, how about you, had some bible?
Seriously? You bring physicality into this?
I´ve been hosting a party all evening, got a nasty road rash on my cheek, and about
to have a high quality Ménage à trois,
how about you, had some bible?
Originally posted by squiz
Ken Millers argument is not proof for or against common ancestry.
All it shows is that there was a fusion event SOMETIME within the HUMAN population since the fused chromosome does not exist in any primate. In fact it's much more likely. It could have happened 100,000 years ago it could have happened 10,000 years ago exclusively within the human species.
This is just as equally possible, but we won't mention that simple little fact.
Originally posted by windword
So, when you say "HUMAN" population, do you mean a fusion event that may have taken place with Neanderthal man or Cro Magnum?
If this fusion event hadn't happened, would there be Homo Sapiens? Was it critical to our evolution, or was it an intervention that bypassed evolution?
As far as I know Neanderthal did not have the fused chromosome. Does this mean the neandethal are not decended from apes? No not really. But it shows how weak this point is.
All I'm saying is that early humans may have had 48 chromosomes and may have nothing to do with evolution from primates. With all our genetic knowledge we still do not know exactly what makes us human genetically.
We know that neanderthals and early Homo sapiens co-existed in Europe for thousands of years. We are extremely close genetically, sharing >99% of our genome and having the same number of chromosomes, so humans and neanderthals would almost certainly have been able to breed and have fertile young. We also know that humans survived and spread throughout the world, while neanderthals became extinct about 30,000 years ago.
Originally posted by Barcs
Neanderthal had the fused chromosomes. They were very similar to humans, they just evolved in a different environment than homo sapiens. They are virtually the same species and could breed together in the past. We don't know how far back the fused chromosome goes, but it probably emerged with the homo genus. Common ancestry isn't up for debate in genetics. There are several aspects to a genome that can be verified and traced back. It's not as simple as "oh it's 70% similar".
The common chimp (Pan troglodytes) and human Y chromosomes are "horrendously different from each other", says David Page of the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research in Cambridge, Massachusetts, who led the work. "It looks like there's been a dramatic renovation or reinvention of the Y chromosome in the chimpanzee and human lineages."
Even more striking than the gene loss is the rearrangement of large portions of the chromosome. More than 30% of the chimp Y chromosome lacks an alignable counterpart on the human Y chromosome, and vice versa, whereas this is true for less than 2% of the remainder of the genome.
Even the portions that do line up have undergone erratic relocation. In the only other chromosome to have been sequenced to the same degree of completeness in both species, chromosome 21, the authors found much less rearrangement.
"If you're marching along the human chromosome 21, you might as well be marching along the chimp chromosome 21. It's like an unbroken piece of glass," says Page. "But the relationship between the human and chimp Y chromosomes has been blown to pieces."
Can't be sure you even know how to play poker from what you wrote.
By the way, we're playing 5 card stud.
But evolution will never shut the hell up because there is an agenda behind it from the get go.
If only you peeps could see that. Your complete denial of unseen forces is a joke. Period.
This thread is a testimony to the back slapping bigotry you people embrace.