Whats up with his eyes...

About them trying to do anything to get you to join... Two of these suckers picked up a couple of axes and did like half a yardful of firewood for a friend of mine.. He had told them he's very interested, but couldn't make it because of chores that needed to be done.. Took them the whole day while he was enjoying a beer in front of the TV.


Might have been Mormons but same story either way

I tell them that Jesus doesn't want me, or them- to serve Him out of fear or obligation. Jesus only wants us to love and serve Him out of Love, not because we are trying to follow a dogma and "earn points for the kingdom" and avoid hell in the process. That usually does the trick.

If you want to get rid of them,
just mention how greedy the elites of the NWO are. . .

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That doesn't sound like a JW at all. They will only obey the government up until the point . . .

That's what I thought. (also attended kingdom hall Lol),
But if you want to see an elder jw flip his lid just
tell him you despise the greedy corporations and the 1%
of elites that run the NWO, and would rather see minimum wage
raised for workers .

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I do find the similarities between this type of case and the old 'men in black' reports interesting.

Two (or three) strange people show up, wanting to talk about stuff. Topic of aliens comes up almost immediately...
Victim witnesses bizarre 'anomalies', etc.

There are also many legends from many cultures about 'non-human entities' posing as traveling humans seeking to 'test' unwitting earth humans. These stories are so widespread that they are even in the Bible, etc.
It's a common theme.

The apparent confusion of the story is what got me thinking twice about the whole thing. I have seen some really random reports about things very similar to this from places where I least suspected them, and I have seen some other things of anomalous nature so I will not rule out anything just yet.

I am completely unconvinced that there are definitive or reliable answers available currently (for the average citizen).
Whatever is going on here, the resolution to it will reveal a whole lot about humanity, our past, and our future. Even if that revelation is mundane, it's insights will still prove very valuable.

Hopefully more posters will come forward and offer more theories. If you have any ideas just say them. Please try to tie things together though and seek the grander scheme.

Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves to be Christians because they believe they are serving the true and living God. Like many cults, they think they are the only true church on earth. Yet, they deny the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, Jesus' physical resurrection, and salvation by grace through faith.

Primarily, the Jehovah's Witness organization is a mind-control organization that uses its people to pass out literature and send in "donations" to it's headquarters.

The Watchtower organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a non-Christian organization that uses its people to promulgate false doctrines, and collects "contributions" for distribution of a multitudinous amount of literature, and expand its grip into the lives of its members and their families.

It is a non-Christian cult.

Originally posted by Teriq
2nd alarm ringed in my head after i heard what the Jehovah witness said she said and i quote "well your uncle is living peacefully now that he's in the ground" there Jehovah witness shouldn't they have said something along the lines of well im sure he's in heaven now...

I think the response your mother received is because they believe that only the first 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses will go to heaven. So all the other Jehovah Witnesses after this and any one else on earth are deemed to spend the rest of eternity on Earth, never meeting the person who died for them - Jesus Christ.


In addition Jehovah Witnesses/Watch Tower:
They are encouraged to visit homes for at least 10 hours per month distributing Watchtower materials.
They use their own special translation of the Bible which mistranslates the original texts.
They are well known to disown, shun, and ignore any friends and family leaving the cult.
They discourage tertiary education.
They are not allowed to be in the army or wear crosses.
They are not allowed to celebrate birthdays.
They are not allowed to celebrate Christmas - the date many celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ.
They have high suicide rates.

Originally posted by juleol

Originally posted by mainidh
This is why I never open the door unless I have a prior arrangement.

I'd certainly not be polite to these people. Reptiles or not, they're creepy buggers and I would most likely put on some heavy metal and not say a word if they managed to somehow be invited into my house. Ha!

Answer the door naked next time, I bet you'll be able to see their pupils very clearly then

Here in Norway the only thing you can do is shut the door in their face. They will literally shout at you and say you will burn in hell and try to force the door open if you don't invite them in.
The Jehovas here seems to be a tad worse than the ones you have in rest of the world.

Tell them you are catholic? It worked for my father. Haven't seen a JW for the last 15 years.

Not trying to be mean,

But why do people feel obligated to open their

Door just because someone knocks?

I always have big barking Shepard in the house

And I don't answer the door.

They only came once, and their church is only 1 block away.

But if you don't mind dealing with them might as well get a pic of the crazy eyes.

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As far as beliefs goes, they are Christian. If you want to call them a cult and say they are mind controlled and stuff like that, that's up to you, I won't challenge your personal opinions of them. They may not share the same beliefs as you, but they are Christian. I'm not really sure why you put the word donations in quotation marks, they don't pass a collection plate or anything like that, they have a box that you can place money in as you enter or leave if you decide to, so nobody knows how much you gave or didn't give. As far as Bible translations go, they could all be challenged, the one they have is probably as good as any. I don't know about the high suicide rates, do you have numbers on that?

I usually leave my 100 lb malamute on my front porch; saves me from having to post threads like this.

After reading your OP I am speechless. For over a year now I have thought I was nuts. I too have seen the shape of pupils in someones eyes change before. It just so happens that it was a jehovas witness as well.

About a year ago I had four men show up at my door wanting to talk. Well, I was busy and politely told them I did not have time to speak to them. Well ,anyone who knows me knows how nasty I can become when I am provoked so when one refused to leave and started preaching to me I blew up and escorted him off my porch and to his vehicle.

That is when I noticed the eyes. What I saw is a spitting image of what you saw. Very strange. I did not notice it in any of the others but they were all afraid of me except for the one man. He said he would come back at a more convenient time but I have yet to see his return. I guess I just thought it was sleep deprivation but your story has me thinking I may be wrong. Thanks for sharing.

If I was a Witness and thought that I had to hang out with crazy people like you all day and listen to all the crazy things you types go on about... my pupils would change shape too.

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If I was a Witness and thought that I had to hang out with crazy people like you all day and listen to all the crazy things you types go on about... my pupils would change shape too.

You types?
Then why did you become a member of ATS? Doesn't make sense to me.

Z

first of all I'll be honest i don't really understand Jehovah's witness i don't even know what there goals and values are as well i basically know minimal knowledge of them. but i do know what i saw was not a medical deformity and i know for a fact that the JW was not wearing contact lenses. now i will just have to wait till next Saturday before they arrive again so i can question them. but i am sad to say i do not own a camera myself. if there really aliens then what can i do to make them show tell-tall-signs

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Look them striaght into his eyes with deep intent... saying in your mind I know who you are... then say it outloud don't your eyes off him... then review his reaction

Had a couple of those people come to my home once and started talking about nuclear war and I looked at them and said well I wish they would drop the big one right here right now that way I would not have to put up with your crap. Needless to say they never made a stop back at my home again. Guess the truth kind of hurt there poor feelings.

Next time they come to your door, you should try confronting them about the eyes. And wait for thier reaction. Then post back about thier reaction. Tell them that you know what they are. And that they are not welcome on this planet.

Like most people, I don't normally open the door when I know it's a Jehovan's Witness or Mormon. But does any one have any experience with them? Do they normally come back week after week? That part seemed kind of odd to me, so it would be nice to know if 'normal' Witnessess (as opposed to freaky diamond-pupil ones) frequently return to homes that open the door for them.

This post intrigued me enough that I might actually open my door next time they come around.

On a side note, some friends and I were playing music one afternoon when 2 JW's showed up. We couldn't avoid them because the front door was already open. Anyway, they came inside and one asked to see my guitar. To my surprise he started jamming several Pantera songs. (If you're not familiar, Pantera is a heavy metal band and the last band I'd expect a JW to play). He was actually very good and I managed to record some of it. They were very friendly and politely left when we told them we were uninterested. Just goes to show you really can't judge a book by it's cover.

The Reptilians

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Okay, first of all, you have got to start using discernment. If you are educated about the cabal, alien presence, galatic war, etc...then you know that as humans we are in the middle of a massive fight for our freedom. This includes the reptoids, or the dark ones as some people say. They are fully infiltrated in our world, and much like we hear about gang initiations...they have many methods of snagging their "souls". Anybody peddling religion is suspect because it is used by them as a control mechanism. (what you do or do not do regarding religion and spirit is your own business...thats not what I'm talking about). If you saw this guy's eyes shift, believe it. And try to use discernment when dealing with anybody of this nature trying to "get" to you. Remember, you are STRONGER than they are. Like gangs, they only have power in groups. Well, so do we. Don't let them turn your fear back on you.

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Curious.

I'm interested in seeing where this is going, although I'm skeptical for now.

Not so much that I think you're lying, just that I believe it's possible that your eyes or the lighting in the room could've been playing tricks on you.

If I were you I'd probably invite them over at least once more - maybe to another location if your dad isn't happy about them being around - and see where it goes.