Breitbart -- The Vetting, Part I: Barack's Love Song To Alinsky

Andrew Breitbart has apparently uncovered some connections to Obama and the famous Saul Alinski.

A local play by a Chicago theater company in 1998 "The Love Song of Saul Alinsky" featured some guest speakers and some interesting names on an advertising poster.

One name on the poster was "Sen. Barack Obama" ??

Interesting however, is that the name says "Sen. Baraka Obama"

The poster is on the webpage 1/3 of the way down.
And you must scroll the picture down to the names at the bottom of the poster.

In 1998, a small Chicago theater company staged a play titled The Love Song of Saul Alinsky, dedicated to the life and politics of the radical community organizer whose methods Obama had practiced and taught on Chicago’s South Side.

Obama was not only in the audience, but also took the stage after one performance, participating in a panel discussion that was advertised in the poster for the play.

Recently, veteran Chicago journalist Michael Miner mocked emerging conservative curiosity about the play, along with enduring suspicions about the links between Alinsky and Obama. Writing in the Chicago Reader, Miner described the poster:

Let's take a look at this poster.

It's red—and that right there, like the darkening water that swirls down Janet Leigh's drain [in Psycho’s famous shower scene], is plenty suggestive. It touts a play called The Love Song of Saul Alinsky, Alinsky being the notorious community organizer from Chicago who wrote books with titles like Reveille for Radicals and Rules for Radicals. On it, fists are raised—meaning insurrection is in the air.

And down at the very bottom, crawling across the poster in small print, it mentions the panel discussions that will follow the Sunday performances. The panelists are that era's usual "progressive" suspects: Leon Despres, Monsignor Jack Egan, Studs Terkel . . .

And state senator Barack Obama.

Miner obscured the truth. His article only reveals only a small portion of the poster. Here’s the whole poster:

From today through Election Day, November 6, 2012, we will vet this president--and his rivals.

"Sen. Baraka Obama"

misprint or intentional ?

YA, who puts the year on play bills???

I have worked at several venues in my time and that stinks like shaky
camera work in a fake Sasquatch video.

Is this constant character assassination via rumor, fake birth certificates, fake narratives
and play bills all you really have to criticize the man about? Instead of focusing on the
real stuff, it is 90% garbage, like this, garbage...

Wow, this is a reach.

So they spelled his name wrong. So what? The man has been President for over 3 years and people STILL misspell his name.

How many politicians have spoken at churches and religious gatherings? I don't see how an association with a theater group, even if the play is about Alinsky, has any negative connotation. At least, no more negative than attending any event.

Good ol' conservatives on the prowl once again trying to spread fear to the American people by accusing everyone of being a communist lmao

what is this the 1950's?

Originally posted by muse7
Good ol' conservatives on the prowl once again trying to spread fear to the American people by accusing everyone of being a communist lmao

what is this the 1950's?

The poster is RED! Don't you know what that means? The Cincinnati Reds? Big Red chewing gum? Red Auerbach? Simply Red? Red Grange?

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Israeli lobbies have a stranglehold on US media.

So when the US president shows disdain towards certain Israeli figures and policies...

Those lobbies get to work.

Obama has shown absolutely NO communist properties. He is a fascist.

I could care less if he attended communist meetings. I would probably attend them if invited because I am interested in political ideologies. And I am far from believing in communism.

And because Obama sees a play about a communist that makes him one? I've seen plenty of Nazi movies in my day.....

Seriously, what is this? The neo-red scare?

Why attack him over this ridiculous stuff?

Why not focus on the real issues?

Like the revision of the NDAA act and bombing Libya with no congressional approval?

This is all distraction to make conservatives and liberals fight each other more. Why can't people see through this mess?

Alinsky, Cloward-Piven and Obama.... One big happy family. No secret that Obama lectured and held workshops on these tactics during his "community organizing" days.

Obama taught workshops on Alinsky’s theories and methods for years and in 1985, he started working as a community organizer for and Alinskyite group called, “Developing Community Projects.” While building coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama was criticized for not attending church and decided to become an instant Christian. He then helped fund the Alinsky Academy. Obama was a paid director of the Woods Fund, which is a non-profit organization used to provide start-up funding and operating capital for Midwest Academy, which teaches the Alinsky tactics of community organization. Obama sat on the Woods Fund Board with William Ayers, the founder of the, “Weather Underground,” a domestic terrorist organization.

Hillary Clinton wrote her thesis on Alinsky's theories methods. Big Fan!!

Hillary Rodham as a student at Wellesly in 1969, interviewed Saul Alinsky and wrote her thesis on Alinsky’s theories and methods. She concludes her thesis by writing, “Alinsky is regarded by many as the proponent of a dangerous socio/political philosophy. As such he has been feared, just as Eugene Debs or Walt Whitman or Martin Luther King has been feared, because each embraced the most radical of political faiths, “democracy.”
Alinsky offered Hillary a job upon graduation from Wellesley but she decided to attend Yale Law School where she met her husband Bill Clinton.

Sound familiar

“Rules For Radicals,” page 113, “From the moment the organizer enters a community he lives, dreams, eats, breaths, sleeps only one thing and that is to build the mass power base of what he calls the army. Until he has developed that mass power base, he confronts no issues.”
Page 59, “But to the organizer, compromise is a key and beautiful word. It is always present in the pragmatics of operation. It is making a deal, getting that vital breather, usually the victory. If you start with nothing, demand 100 percent, compromise for 30 percent, you’re 30 percent ahead.”

The ends justify the means...

www.redstate.com...

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Alinsky, Cloward-Piven and Obama.... One big happy family. No secret that Obama lectured and held workshops on these tactics during his "community organizing" days.

No, it isn't a secret to those of us who did our research,

Our schools and colleges, are full of this type of indoctrination, the news media and our government has been infiltrated.

Destroyed from with-in.

Funny how the usual defenders have yet to roost where the hard facts lay. They are still launching attacks in the realm of the BC controversy. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Tough to debate known facts about Obama's past!! Let's not forget and keep it all up front from now until election day. Something is bound to sink in somewhere if people just open their eyes and minds. Look hard enough and you can figure out the 3 card monte scam.

Just wait till the Sheriff's posse exposes Bill Ayers as the master forger.

Ayers has admitted in a book that he and his friends created plenty of fake ID's.

He himself was on the run for years.

Does anyone believe Ayers used his own name in the "old days"


(note the date of this NYTimes article !)
No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen

Originally posted by xuenchen
Just wait till the Sheriff's posse exposes Bill Ayers as the master forger.

Ayers has admitted in a book that he and his friends created plenty of fake ID's.

He himself was on the run for years.

Does anyone believe Ayers used his own name in the "old days"

(note the date of this NYTimes article !)
No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen

Well aint that interesting, Ayers, huh? I didn't know about his fake ID's

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Because these are the real issues!!
it all comes back to this! It is all part of one big plan!

Originally posted by mastahunta
YA, who puts the year on play bills???

I have worked at several venues in my time and that stinks like shaky
camera work in a fake Sasquatch video.

Is this constant character assassination via rumor, fake birth certificates, fake narratives
and play bills all you really have to criticize the man about? Instead of focusing on the
real stuff, it is 90% garbage, like this, garbage...

That's pretty funny. As if "focusing on the real stuff" is going to paint a better picture of Obama.

Ok.

So simple question...what is wrong with Saul Alinsky?



Besides the conservative talk shows making his name a "bad word"...I challenge any of you to tell me what exactly is wrong with Saul Alinsky?

Is he evil because he fought for the poor?

Is he evil because he started community organizing to give people who didn't have a voice an actual voice?


How exactly is being linked to studying Saul Alinsky a negative towards Obama???

reply to post by RealSpoke


Except Saul Alinsky wasn't a communist.

The Conservative talk show circuit has tried to sell that lie.

Do you know why they say he is a communist???

It is all from this ONE interview in Playboy magazine:

www.progress.org...

PLAYBOY: What did you do after the war?

ALINSKY: I went back to community-organization work, crisscrossing the country, working in slums in New York and Detroit and Buffalo and in Mexican barrios in California and the Southwest. Reveille for Radicals became the number one best seller, and that helped drum up more support for our work, but then the Cold War began to freeze and McCarthyism started sweeping the country, making any radical activity increasingly difficult. In those days everybody who challenged the establishment was branded a Communist, and the radical movement began to disintegrate under the pressure.

PLAYBOY: What was your own relationship with the Communist Party?

ALINSKY: I knew plenty of Communists in those days, and I worked with them on a number of projects. Back in the Thirties, the Communists did a hell of a lot of good work; they were in the vanguard of the labor movement and they played an important role in aiding blacks and Okies and Southern sharecroppers. Anybody who tells you he was active in progressive causes in those days and never worked with the Reds is a goddamn liar. Their platform stood for all the right things, and unlike many liberals, they were willing to put their bodies on the line. Without the Communists, for example, I doubt the C.I.O. could have won all the battles it did. I was also sympathetic to Russia in those days, not because I admired Stalin or the Soviet system but because it seemed to be the only country willing to stand up to Hitler. I was in charge of a big part of fund raising for the International Brigade and in that capacity I worked in close alliance with the Communist Party.

When the Nazi-Soviet Pact came, though, and I refused to toe the party line and urged support for England and for American intervention in the war, the party turned on me tooth and nail. Chicago Reds plastered the Back of the Yards with big posters featuring a caricature of me with a snarling, slavering fanged mouth and wild eyes, labeled, "This is the face of a warmonger." But there were too many Poles, Czechs, Lithuanians and Latvians in the area for that tactic to go over very well. Actually, the greatest weakness of the party was its slavish parroting of the Moscow line. It could have been much more effective if it had adopted a relatively independent stance, like the western European parties do today. But all in all, and despite my own fights with them, I think the Communists of the Thirties deserve a lot of credit for the struggles they led or participated in. Today the party is just a shadow of the past, but in the Depiession it was a positive force for social change. A lot of its leaders and organizers were jerks, of course, but objectively the party in those days was on the right side and did considerable good.

PLAYBOY: Did you consider becoming a party member prior to the Nazi-Soviet Pact?

ALINSKY: Not at any time. I've never joined any organization -- not even the ones I've organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it's Christianity or Marxism.

Doesn't sound like a communist to me...even though he praised SOME of their efforts in regards to labor.


The Right is just desperate to demonize anyone that tries to help out the poor, that if someone says that they thought SOME of what the "evil communist" did was positive...that means he is anti-american. It's witch hunting at it's worst...but it seems like that is the Rights strategy and their followers just believe whatever they say and follow in right behind them.

here is one philosophy of Saul ....

“To say that corrupt means corrupts the ends is to believe in the immaculate conception of ends and principles. The real arena is corrupt and bloody. Life is a corrupting process from the time a child learns to play his mother off against his father in the politics of when to go to bed; he who fears corruption fears life,” in his view.

Alinsky sees corruption as the normal method of operation. He thinks one fights corruption out of fear, and those against corruption sniveling cowardly wimps. To reject corruption is not fear of it, while embracing corruption often is, so which one fears life?

Alinsky goes on, “The practical revolutionary will understand Goethe’s “conscience is the virtue of observers and not the agents of action”; in action, one does not always enjoy the luxury of a decision that is consistent with one’s individual conscience and the good of all mankind.”

The Obama experience: part 4 of 8. Who is Saul Alinsky, of whom Obama is a disc

in other words, corruption makes the corrupors rich, and the poor stay poor

He was the master of deception

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Ok.

So simple question...what is wrong with Saul Alinsky?



Besides the conservative talk shows making his name a "bad word"...I challenge any of you to tell me what exactly is wrong with Saul Alinsky?

Is he evil because he fought for the poor?

Is he evil because he started community organizing to give people who didn't have a voice an actual voice?


How exactly is being linked to studying Saul Alinsky a negative towards Obama???

Here is a quote from Rules for Radicals

"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism."

The United States has been a capitalist society since its founding. Many people like the system in comparison with Marxist systems. Many people don't want a President that follows Marxist teachings.

That is probably part of the issue with Saul Alinsky.

This is also from 'Rules for Radicals':

"The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…. The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be...." pp.25-26

Read it, it says that if you have an issue with a terrorist using bombs for moral reasons, then you are a problem......

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No it isn't a real issue. Worry about the things he is CURRENTLY doing, not ancient Obama history that doesn't affect you.

NDAA is a REAL issue. LIBYA was a real issue. DRONES are a real issue. CHRONY PAYOUTS is a real issue.

Obama shows NO characteristics of being a communist. He is every bit fascist.

I could care less if Obama went to a communist play in the 70's. I read Mein Kampf, does that make me a Nazi? I watched a documentary on Che Guevara, does that make me a communist? I like Ron Paul does that mean I'm a libertarian? I've watched many Chomsky speeches, does that make me a socialist?

God forbid someone that likes politics actually watch and read things involving it. You have to educate yourself on a vast variety of topics before you can decide what you actually are. Without doing your own research then you are blindly following something society tells you that you should like or be.

"you cant stop the signal"

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