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Breitbart -- The Vetting, Part I: Barack's Love Song To Alinsky

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posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Alinsky appealed to radicals in the 60's because he offered the model for organizing community movements. Alinsky is THE father of the grassroots movement - he was it's architect and chief proponent embraced by both Republicans and Democrats since.

Community Organizing (wikipedia)

FBCOs and many grassroots organizing models are built on the work of Saul Alinsky, discussed below, from the 1930s into the 1970s


Saul Alinsky (wikipedia)

Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 – June 12, 1972) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing, and has been compared to Thomas Paine as being "one of the great American leaders of the nonsocialist left."


The guy's been dead for 40 years. Yet that doesn't stop the corporate shills on the right from trying to villify his name, even when Republicans themselves embrace Saul Alinsky too.

The Tea Party also advocates using "Rules for Radicals" in it's organization;

Adam Brandon, a spokesman for the conservative non-profit organization FreedomWorks, which is one of several groups involved in organizing Tea Party protests, says the group gives Alinsky's Rules for Radicals to its top leadership members. A shortened guide called Rules for Patriots is distributed to its entire network. In a January 2012 story that appeared in The Wall Street Journal, citing the organization's tactic of sending activists to town-hall meetings, Brandon explained, "his tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective." Former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey also gives copies of Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals to Tea Party leaders. (source)


So watching the idiots on the right try to demonize Obama for attributing credit to Alinsky for his writings, when they too embrace it? Big *yawn*. The Tea Party is Saul Alinsky personified, just as is the #OWS.




posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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This is sad. If it wasnt so childish I would find it pretty hiarious watching you people tear each other apart over BO. I'm an independent and voted for him the first time. Since he has done at least two things that I personally disagree with I am re-evaluating my support for him. I really like Ron Paul but even if he gets elected he probably wont be able to get anything done.

Instead of beating each other up why dont you people focus on electing someone who will restore the constitution, wrest the control of our govt from corporations and get the federal govt out our personal business? If you cant get your choice into the ovl office then start supporting who you think will stand up for your values on capitol hill.

As for the OP and others like him that post bs about OB's BC and other nonsense, spend your energy either getting somone else elected or back your congress person or senator (incumbent or candidate) that can vote on your behalf to stop legislation you dont agree with. Democracy. Novel idea.

Get the vote out. Stop participating in non-issues that divert peoples attention from the real roblems we all face.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
Andrew Breitbart has apparently uncovered some connections to Obama and the famous Saul Alinski.

A local play by a Chicago theater company in 1998 "The Love Song of Saul Alinsky" featured some guest speakers and some interesting names on an advertising poster.

One name on the poster was "Sen. Barack Obama" ??

Interesting however, is that the name says "Sen. Baraka Obama"

The poster is on the webpage 1/3 of the way down.
And you must scroll the picture down to the names at the bottom of the poster.



In 1998, a small Chicago theater company staged a play titled The Love Song of Saul Alinsky, dedicated to the life and politics of the radical community organizer whose methods Obama had practiced and taught on Chicago’s South Side.

Obama was not only in the audience, but also took the stage after one performance, participating in a panel discussion that was advertised in the poster for the play.

Recently, veteran Chicago journalist Michael Miner mocked emerging conservative curiosity about the play, along with enduring suspicions about the links between Alinsky and Obama. Writing in the Chicago Reader, Miner described the poster:

Let's take a look at this poster.

It's red—and that right there, like the darkening water that swirls down Janet Leigh's drain [in Psycho’s famous shower scene], is plenty suggestive. It touts a play called The Love Song of Saul Alinsky, Alinsky being the notorious community organizer from Chicago who wrote books with titles like Reveille for Radicals and Rules for Radicals. On it, fists are raised—meaning insurrection is in the air.

And down at the very bottom, crawling across the poster in small print, it mentions the panel discussions that will follow the Sunday performances. The panelists are that era's usual "progressive" suspects: Leon Despres, Monsignor Jack Egan, Studs Terkel . . .

And state senator Barack Obama.

Miner obscured the truth. His article only reveals only a small portion of the poster. Here’s the whole poster:


From today through Election Day, November 6, 2012, we will vet this president--and his rivals.

"Sen. Baraka Obama"

misprint or intentional ?






edit on Mar-05-2012 by xuenchen because: (no reason given)


Ummmm so???
So this is the big bombshell that you all were raving on about LOL.
Yep, I'm sure they offed him because he knew Obama participated in a discussion after a theater play.

I mean really guys... you know who you are.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Ahaha

exactly




posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:26 AM
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Breitbart has a followup article.

Important Topic Updates
In a follow up to yesterday's article, Breitbart writer Ben Shapiro is claiming that a tape exists of that 1998 production of The Love Song of Saul Alinsky in Chicago.

Obama was an Illinois State Senator at the time and he participated in a discussion panel after a performance of the play.

However, the "only" copy is in the possession of someone who will not release it !!

They must be hiding something ?

If Obama is so proud of his record, then why suppress historical materials


Obama Ally Won't Release Alinsky Tape







edit on Mar-06-2012 by xuenchen because: (no reason given)
extra DIV



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
If Obama is so proud of his record, then why suppress historical materials


What proof do you have that Obama has anything to do with stopping the release of this alleged "video"?



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by xuenchen
If Obama is so proud of his record, then why suppress historical materials


What proof do you have that Obama has anything to do with stopping the release of this alleged "video"?


All he has to do is call the person.

He could ask real nice to show the tape.

Then She might.

Unless She wants money ?

But I stand corrected, maybe Obama (or any staffers) does not know about this yet.

I should have said the women, not Obama.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
Obama has shown absolutely NO communist properties. He is a fascist.

I could care less if he attended communist meetings. I would probably attend them if invited because I am interested in political ideologies. And I am far from believing in communism.

And because Obama sees a play about a communist that makes him one? I've seen plenty of Nazi movies in my day.....

Seriously, what is this? The neo-red scare?

Why attack him over this ridiculous stuff?

Why not focus on the real issues?

Like the revision of the NDAA act and bombing Libya with no congressional approval?

This is all distraction to make conservatives and liberals fight each other more. Why can't people see through this mess?
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Reposted so the page skippers can read. Excellent post, so very true and Im no conservative!



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
Breitbart has a followup article.

Important Topic Updates
In a follow up to yesterday's article, Breitbart writer Ben Shapiro is claiming that a tape exists of that 1998 production of The Love Song of Saul Alinsky in Chicago.

Obama was an Illinois State Senator at the time and he participated in a discussion panel after a performance of the play.

However, the "only" copy is in the possession of someone who will not release it !!

They must be hiding something ?

If Obama is so proud of his record, then why suppress historical materials


Obama Ally Won't Release Alinsky Tape







edit on Mar-06-2012 by xuenchen because: (no reason given)


I just caught this story this morning and its yet another head scratching moment from those covering for the big O. Clearly the discussion after the play will shed some real light on Obama's ideology and his core set of values. The woman even said that the Play Poster was never meant to be public.

I can't wait for the Obama library to open after his reign comes to an end. It will be devoid of all materials prior to 2008.

By the time Obama got to Chicago he had clearly become the man that he is today. Same radical ideals and affiliations today. I just wonder how many fires the Obama Bunch can put out at one time.

This whole Alinsky Naivete is getting old. Funny, the lengths that have been taken to keep all things Alinsky under wraps. Obama wrote two books and never covered any of his time as a student of the Alinsky Method or his work as a professor of it. Oh well... The truth hurts.... extra DIV



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Snoopy1978

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Obama has shown absolutely NO communist properties. He is a fascist.

I could care less if he attended communist meetings. I would probably attend them if invited because I am interested in political ideologies. And I am far from believing in communism.

And because Obama sees a play about a communist that makes him one? I've seen plenty of Nazi movies in my day.....

Seriously, what is this? The neo-red scare?

Why attack him over this ridiculous stuff?

Why not focus on the real issues?

Like the revision of the NDAA act and bombing Libya with no congressional approval?

This is all distraction to make conservatives and liberals fight each other more. Why can't people see through this mess?
edit on 5-3-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

edit on 5-3-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)



Reposted so the page skippers can read. Excellent post, so very true and Im no conservative!


OK, Obama isn't a fascist (technically Ron Paul is closest to that), but the point is otherwise pretty spot on...

And here's your answer.

The majority of this comes from the Koch Brothers... and their MO, like their Dad's (who founded the John Birch Society) was to basically just call people some really scary sounding thing... If also helps if you own dozens of media outlets who will repeat your scary claims.

Their dad, if you didn't know, called Eisenhower a Communist.

Is this sounding familiar?

Corsi, who co-wrote that book with Sheriff Joe, is the guy behind the Kerry Swift Boat lies... sound familiar?

These people are playing you guys... THEY think you're soooooo stupid you'll believe anything...

I KNOW you're smart enough to not let these liars win... DO SOME RESEARCH!



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with community organizing per se. But Alinksky embraced and taught some very vile techniques for hurting the opposition. The ends justify the means for a leftist always.
Calling people some scary sounding thing, didn't you just call Ron Paul a scary sounding name?
Anyway, fascism is really cut from the same leftist cloth as socialism. Both are Totalitarian in nature and depend on the State to run society.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Ron Paul a fascist????? He is the closest thing to liberty we've got right now. I think you need to review your definitions.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Snoopy1978

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Obama has shown absolutely NO communist properties. He is a fascist.

I could care less if he attended communist meetings. I would probably attend them if invited because I am interested in political ideologies. And I am far from believing in communism.

And because Obama sees a play about a communist that makes him one? I've seen plenty of Nazi movies in my day.....

Seriously, what is this? The neo-red scare?

Why attack him over this ridiculous stuff?

Why not focus on the real issues?

Like the revision of the NDAA act and bombing Libya with no congressional approval?

This is all distraction to make conservatives and liberals fight each other more. Why can't people see through this mess?
edit on 5-3-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

edit on 5-3-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)



Reposted so the page skippers can read. Excellent post, so very true and Im no conservative!


Unfortunately, the thing missing here is that socialism leads to communism, and fascism is still an element of the Left leaning, it is just not as far left as communism.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Uh... well that's all completely wrong...

Fascism:
en.wikipedia.org...



"Fascism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism, liberalism, and two major forms of socialism—communism and social democracy."


What Obama very vaguely espouses isn't Socialism, but Social Democracy.

He doesn't REALLY espouse it though... Obamacare wasn't written by the people, but by the insurance companies...



"Contemporary Social democracy is defined as a political movement that seeks to profoundly reform capitalism to align it with the ethical ideals of social justice, rather than creating an alternative socialist economic system.[3][4] Contemporary Social democratic policies include support for a welfare state, Keynesian macro-economic policies, and collective bargaining arrangements to balance the power of capital and labor.[5] Examples of contemporary social democracy include the Nordic model and social market economy."


en.wikipedia.org...

I wish you folks would freak out about the right stuff...



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:01 PM
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Please tell us what we should be freaking out about...by the look of your past threads I'm not seeing anything to freak out about.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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There's not a lot to freak out with Obama, other than being in bed with the banks and big business... welcome to American "democracy"... I don't believe a lot of the vote rigging BS, but I DO think that corporations primarily control the message and he messenger by how the spend money...

Newt is in the race because of one donor, who happens to be a massive pro-Israel person... without that person, Newt is gone...

That's what I mean...

The biggest thing people should freak about about is the control corporation have on society... it's well documented, growing, and destructive...


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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by mastahunta
YA, who puts the year on play bills???

I have worked at several venues in my time and that stinks like shaky
camera work in a fake Sasquatch video.

Is this constant character assassination via rumor, fake birth certificates, fake narratives
and play bills all you really have to criticize the man about? Instead of focusing on the
real stuff, it is 90% garbage, like this, garbage...


Man, give it up. All you do is blindly attack anti-Obama posts on this site with vacuous drivel. How much do they pay you, seriously?



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Well, look, I have no problem with people calling this POTUS a fascist. The problem I have is that leftists always try to portray fascism as an extreme right faction of conservativism, thus pretending that it isn't a component of the left, which it is. In hegelian dialectical reasoning, they pitted the communists as left against the fascists on the right, but that does not make fascists Republicans or an extreme right manifestatiotn. In any case, fascism is totalitarian and statist and so is socialism and so is communism, and they are all cut from the same cloth. What they all oppose is liberty and freedom.

I would say that POTUS right now is a good example of the NWO synthesis of the left/right Hegelian dialogue which is neither right nor left. This is why left-leaners see him as more right and right-leaners see him as more left. But he still harkens to the radical left base, therefore he is of the left-hegelian side. How can anyone miss how he caters to a liberal base with all the environmentalism and green ideology regardless of how practical it is, with nationalizing private industry, and many other elements of the Left.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Then check out this thread: The American Conspiracy...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Corporations have been freakin people out so long it's normal.. .
no wonder we don't freak out anymore.

Note the search feature is a wonderful tool.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by relocator
 


There's not a lot to freak out with Obama, other than being in bed with the banks and big business... welcome to American "democracy"... I don't believe a lot of the vote rigging BS, but I DO think that corporations primarily control the message and he messenger by how the spend money...

Newt is in the race because of one donor, who happens to be a massive pro-Israel person... without that person, Newt is gone...

That's what I mean...

The biggest thing people should freak about about is the control corporation have on society... it's well documented, growing, and destructive...


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"Social Democracy" is still left leaning and leaning toward collectivism. Too bad some people want to hide the collective nature of it by using a different terminology. Talk about obfuscation. That is what is so sill about all this OWS nonsense and all the silly "mic check" and the demands for direct democracy. That is mob rule which is collectivism. Big labor. BIg govt.



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