One of the things that always bugged me. The whole avatar thing, were already avatars of our conscious and souls as it stands, and everything is
defined and guided by that, our fleshy bodies. The thing is all those machines are already alive, they just are not under the same laws as us, or
better yet not on the same wavelengths.
The two can not really mutually exist on the same wavelength only side by side, or if they can it is not something that blends together well. In fact
it seems to blend like oil and water blend, one always floats on top of the other, always aloft, apart, never quite there even when right in your
But ya ghost in the shell pretty much did it and once again life is catching up to art. The whole cyborgs, human conscious in metal tanks, in
cyberspace, in all kind of digital and metal constructs, were as they could just basically upload there whole psyche, there whole persona, and the
everything that a person is, into different bodies and digital forms.
Which if you think about it really it can not just be done like that, because a conscious is a always flowing river, never the same from one moment
to another, its kind of an impossibility not only because it will kill individuality but because anybody that tries it they just became copy and
paste programs and nothing more. Defined by what shell they inhabit to that exact limit that they inhabit, they do really become a ghost in a
And as they get uploaded into different host bodies, the bodies that they got uploaded into are what they conform to in its entire makeup, and its
what they become. So really how can a man, be a tank? its whole makeup its whole psyche, and all that it makes it will not and can not be the same,
there is a whole world of difference between some of the stuff on that show and what there talking about here. This stuff is just puppets, basically
just a new way to remote control puppets, but to transfer your whole makeup into a metal body that is a whole different ball game.
And it changes everything, I mean look what the digital age, and computer communication did to the human psyche and everything else, now imagine what
would happen if you could really ditch your body and basically hop from one to another just by uploading a program that is you into that new body, or
those new bodies. I suppose one can look at it as a version of that whole nature and your surroundings versus nurture..A digital version of it, a
whole new version of it, a whole new way of existing really. I suppose we are already living that, in a biological sense, after all we are just
The dilemma of the Tachikomas
always bugged me...One thing I could never really get my head around,
and in the end its more then a philosophical question, Its an experience that must be answered.
Couldn't find the full parts of the show, were the tachikomas go all philosophical..Or as the major and batou were saying...A malfunction, a glitch
in there programming...Or a sort of evolution, oil mixing with water. That's why the major was looking at them funny.
Tachikoma: "Well, it's just that the way the Major's been looking at us lately is kinda scary."
Batou: "Oh, is that all? The Major's always scary, remember?"
Tachikoma: "It just seems like the Major is angry about what we've acquired recently ...Individuality."
Tachikoma: And you know that 'existence of God' thing that I had trouble understanding before? I think I'm starting to understand it now. Maybe,
just maybe, it's a concept that's similar to a zero in mathematics. In other words, it's a symbol that denies the abscence of meaning, the meaning
that's necessitated by the delineation of one system from another. In analog, that's God. In digital, it's zero. ...So, for the time being, no
matter how much data we accumulate, we'll never have a Ghost. But analog-based people like you, Batou-san, no matter how many digital components you
add through cyberization or prosthetics, your Ghost will never be damaged. Plus, you can even die, cause you've got a Ghost. You're so lucky. Tell
me how it feels to have a Ghost."
Batou: "How it feels? No, I take it back, what I said earlier. You're pretty screwed up all right."