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posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Uncinus
....vastly more than cloud seeding could have provided.


Any rain from them would end up in the Thames.


It's just an unfortunate place to put a village.



What is the limit for seeded rain? How is that limit determined?

How is it determined what effect experimentation will have? Surely the point of experimentation is to see what happens.

Agreed, the location of the village made it exceptionally vulnerable.




posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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The problem with cloud seeding is that it's hard to say how much it was going to rain anyway.

If the case of the huge storm system of England that day, it certainly was going to rain a lot anyway.



posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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What you also need to remember Kester is that Lynton and Lynmouth are the meeting point for TWO rivers,both of which are fed by one of the countries largest natural sponges commonly known as Exmoor and is no more than about 4 or 5 miles away.The highest point of Exmoor is about 1500 ft above mean sea level,so that's one hell of a head of water that's going to try to take the easiest possible path to reach the sea,with all this in mind it's a miracle it hasn't happened more often than it has.



posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
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"Black beams" are just shadows!!!

Shadows being cast by contrails. There are NO such thing as "chemtrails".

Period.


Shadows?

Like a shadow of the new supersonic replacement of the blackbird? Super fast so he couldn't see the plane at all?
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posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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I'll link again to this article. It's worth reading it carefully to understand why suspicion is more than just wild speculation. The last paragraph for example. "Survivors of the Lynmouth flood called for - but never got - a full investigation into the causes of the disaster. Rumours persist to this day of planes circling before the inundation."

www.guardian.co.uk...

Notice also this statement. "The chemicals were provided by ICI in Billingham." A good friend worked at ICI Billingham for a short while in the early 70's. His job was to take samples and measure the concentration of pollutants released into the river Tees. On his first day at work he took his samples, analysed them, wrote out his report and presented it to his superior. He was told "You've made a mistake." Very quickly he realised only measurements within the permitted limits would be accepted, measurements above that limit were simply called mistakes. That was the level of dishonesty exhibited by the manufacturers years later. What chance of honesty from those in charge of the project?



This experimentation was carried out around the same time as the Lynmouth floods. Worth watching from 9 minutes 45 seconds. What do you think of that body language? Is that a man you would trust?




posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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They are shadows being cast by normal contrails.

Has nothing to do with any "top secret" replacement for the Blackbird.

Normal contrails casting shadows that can be seen briefly, when you are at just the right angle, to the way the Sun is shining and when there is sufficient dust or haze in the air.

Contrail shadow photos



Contrails are clouds with relatively sharp boundaries and hence may cast a sharp shadow on lower-altitude clouds. This shadow is then visible from the underside of the cloud, if the optical thickess of the cloud (the opacity) is not too large. If the lower-altitude cloud is cirrostratus, which is translucent, a three-dimensional shadow will form. This shadow is a plane defined by the sun and the (line-shaped) contrail. As a result, such a shadow is usually only visible if the contrail is in front of the sun for the observer. It is remarkable to see that a contrail shadow usually appears in an odd direction with respect to the sun and realizing that it is being cast on a lower-level cloud: perspective can be really deceptive.



Period.



posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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www.exmoor-nationalpark.gov.uk...
The above article gives evidence of at least one previous catastrophic flood in the same place and some smaller ones since,sometimes things happen just because they happen.
Yes the guy is lying as obviously as if he was Pinnochio,and yes there is definite evidence that our military were involved with experiments that MIGHT be linked to higher mortality rates in some parts of the country.
As already mentioned,the almost biblical amount of water that fell the day before could never have been caused by us mortals putting chemicals into the clouds.This is mother nature at her most unpredictable and nothing else,it's happened before without our help and will almost certainly happen again.
I have been there a couple of times when I used to spend my summer holidays in Devon with my parents,the first time I didn't know much about it until it was mentioned in a geography (or was it history?) lesson at school. I read a book about it and then when we went back the next summer I could look down into the inches deep river and see in my mind the raging torrent that took all those lives some years before.

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posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by Imagewerx

As already mentioned,the almost biblical amount of water that fell the day before could never have been caused by us mortals putting chemicals into the clouds.


The suggestion is that due to weather modification the rain was considerably heavier than it would have been resulting in the destruction of buildings built in the path of the river.

"Rumours persist to this day of planes circling before the inundation." These rumours are impossible to prove or disprove.

Physical evidence would be extremely diluted and open to interpretation.

"The British Geological Survey has recently examined soil sediments in the district of Lynmouth to see if any silver or iodide residues remain. The testing has been limited due to restrictions in place because of foot and mouth disease, and it is inconclusive. However, silver residue has been discovered in the catchment waters of the river Lyn. The BGS will investigate further over the next 18 months."

" ....a 50-year-old radio broadcast unearthed by Radio 4 describes an aeronautical engineer and glider pilot, Alan Yates, working with Operation Cumulus at the time and flying over Bedfordshire, spraying quantities of salt. He was elated when the scientists told him this had led to a heavy downpour 50 miles away over Staines, in Middlesex.

"I was told that the rain had been the heaviest for several years - and all out of a sky which looked summery ... there was no disguising the fact that the seedsman had said he'd make it rain, and he did. Toasts were drunk to meteorology and it was not until the BBC news bulletin [about Lynmouth] was read later on, that a stony silence fell on the company," said Mr Yates at the time.

Operation Cumulus was put on hold indefinitely after the tragedy."

The heaviest rain for several years out of a sky which looked summery. How about a sky that looked like heavy rain was due and a village built in the path of a river?

"....silver residue has been discovered in the catchment waters of the river Lyn."

Nothing conclusive, but it's wise to keep the weather modification crowd on their toes.

Plenty of opportunities for further study and have a nice Devon holiday into the bargain! From visit Lynton. "it may have been the result of cloud-seeding experiments by the military."

www.visitlynton.co.uk...

I recently asked a friend in Japan if it's true there are ancient stones set around the Japanese coast with the message "Don't build below here". He said yes, it's true. Millions of people live below those stones. In this country we see much construction in areas known to be prone to flooding.

"Tsunami
A great flood on 20th January 1607, was so large as to be known as the 'Second Deluge'. This was a flood from the sea that affected the Bristol Channel coast, the Exmoor coast included. It destroyed part of Lynmouth and wiped out the fishing industry there."

A repeat of the 1607 Tsunami will engulf Hinkley Point and Oldbury nuclear power stations. There are plans to build a massive nuclear power complex at Oldbury. Nature plus imprudent development is a lethal combination. Weather modification adds another element we can do without.



posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Kester
"The British Geological Survey has recently examined soil sediments in the district of Lynmouth to see if any silver or iodide residues remain. The testing has been limited due to restrictions in place because of foot and mouth disease, and it is inconclusive. However, silver residue has been discovered in the catchment waters of the river Lyn. The BGS will investigate further over the next 18 months."


Hmm, it seems vastly more likely that that would come from the ground, seeing as there are numerous silver mines within 60 miles of there.

Also, the two areas mentioned, Bedfordshire and Staines, are nowhere near the Lyn catchment area (about 100-150 miles away).



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by Uncinus

Originally posted by Kester
"The British Geological Survey has recently examined soil sediments in the district of Lynmouth to see if any silver or iodide residues remain. The testing has been limited due to restrictions in place because of foot and mouth disease, and it is inconclusive. However, silver residue has been discovered in the catchment waters of the river Lyn. The BGS will investigate further over the next 18 months."


Hmm, it seems vastly more likely that that would come from the ground, seeing as there are numerous silver mines within 60 miles of there.

Also, the two areas mentioned, Bedfordshire and Staines, are nowhere near the Lyn catchment area (about 100-150 miles away).


Hence inconclusive.

Rumours persist to this day of planes circling overhead? Super vision?



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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Once the conditions are right for torrential rain it's going to rain no matter how much we do or don't do to help it,there's no evidence that I've ever seen that cloud seeding or other methods can make it rain any more than it would have done without it.

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