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This is being written for those in mind who may have witnessed something “unusual at the very least” and or “life-changing” at the top of the WOW! meter, on Thursday, March 13, 1997. (This could have been anytime from about 5:00 pm March 13, 1997 through 4 am., March 14, 1997). This is for you if you saw something and decided to keep it to yourself.
I have always preferred “The Massive UFO Flyover of Arizona, March 13, 1997,” over the term, “The Phoenix Lights” as the former is by far the most descriptive title regarding the true events state-wide, not just lights at or near the city. The term, “Phoenix Lights” is simply not accurate. The name came into being as 2 of the 5, “10 pm videos” (Rairdon & Kitei) of "mysterious lights" that slowly appeared and then disappeared, were aired on local news stations beginning the following day (Friday March 14th) and were erroneously depicted as being over Phoenix proper. These night-time video’s were shot by residents living in mountain-side homes; the respective cameras were pointed in a southwest direction with the Phoenix metro area in the foreground and the Estrella Mountain Range as the backdrop. The lights recorded were later proven to be flares dropped at (unusually) high altitude some 45-60 miles away by the Maryland Air National Guard. Thus, the name “Phoenix Lights” was born and by the same token confusion (which still exists today) between the flare drop footage and the “real, remarkable UFO events” which occurred on that date.
Speaking as a witness, it’s safe to say that those of you who were privileged to have observed the massive UFO—did tell someone! If not, how did you do it?! How did you vent the emotion? How could you keep it to yourself?! Having gone through the experience (myself) . . . seeing something that does not compute; that goes against the grain of how one was raised, and or what falls outside of that which society dictates is normal—the natural desire is to share the experience with folks, or seek out others who experienced the same phenomenon.
After 15 years we now know, given the area the UFO(s) traversed; the weather conditions, as well as the fact that people were sky-watching for the Hale Bopp comet that evening—only a fraction of the actual witnesses went public. . . .
The rest of the story . . .
Originally posted by Gazrok
The big problem though, is that nobody seemed to film the 8pm event, whereas 5 people were able to film the 10pm flare drop event.
No matter what the testimony, this coincidence is going to blow pretty much any witness account not backed up with photographic evidence of that night.
The good news, is that NUFORC does have reported records of the sightings prior to the 10pm flare drop, so that at least confirms witnesses aren't confusing the time, and that indeed, there were sightings before the drop, but that's really all there is to go on. Any believe is left with the "pics or it didn't happen" argument, especially with 5 videos of the later event.
Originally posted by wigit
'96 and '97 seem to have been popular years for UFO sightings and other experiences. Probably every year is but those two years stick in my mind anyway.
I remember Hale Bobb too. Didn't that stay in the sky for at least a week or two? Maybe there weren't many people out that night in question having a look at it. Some people forget what they've seen too, but I hope the man gets the info he's looking for.
Originally posted by Gazrok
The big problem though, is that nobody seemed to film the 8pm event, whereas 5 people were able to film the 10pm flare drop event.
The big problem though, is that nobody seemed to film the 8pm event, whereas 5 people were able to film the 10pm flare drop event.
No matter what the testimony, this coincidence...
Originally posted by thesearchfortruth
reply to post by Gazrok
The big problem though, is that nobody seemed to film the 8pm event, whereas 5 people were able to film the 10pm flare drop event.
No matter what the testimony, this coincidence...
I would disagree with the notion that this is a coincidence. It seems to me that people saw the 8pm event, or at least heard other people talking about it when they were in a bad position to film the UFO. After that they were ready for any UFOs because they had already heard that UFOs had been sighted in the area. At ten at night, it seems people would be looking for UFOs in the sky much more having heard or seen UFOs earlier. This means that more people would have had their cameras ready.
However, I don't believe the Phoenix craft was anything more then a top-secret government aircraft, as most—or maybe even all UFOs are.
Just my opinion on things.
-tst
Originally posted by greyer
reply to post by Frank Warren
The lights of the American UFO during the Phoenix light looked similar to the actual balls of light that flew around Los Angeles during the UFO battle of 1942. Many think that one UFO was the centerpiece of the battle based on the photo, but there were at least 24 UFOs of the same size. They flew into LA, they hovered, and when they got hit the townspeople heard a ricochet.
Originally posted by thesearchfortruth
reply to post by Gazrok
The big problem though, is that nobody seemed to film the 8pm event, whereas 5 people were able to film the 10pm flare drop event.
No matter what the testimony, this coincidence...
I would disagree with the notion that this is a coincidence. It seems to me that people saw the 8pm event, or at least heard other people talking about it when they were in a bad position to film the UFO. After that they were ready for any UFOs because they had already heard that UFOs had been sighted in the area. At ten at night, it seems people would be looking for UFOs in the sky much more having heard or seen UFOs earlier. This means that more people would have had their cameras ready.
However, I don't believe the Phoenix craft was anything more then a top-secret government aircraft, as most—or maybe even all UFOs are.
Just my opinion on things.
-tst
Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
Can I just ask, is ANY of the video evidence of the 8pm event available anywhere? Also, having seen a lot of footage of the 8pm witnesses, I do believe them in what they saw (to clarify).
Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
Can I just ask, is ANY of the video evidence of the 8pm event available anywhere? Also, having seen a lot of footage of the 8pm witnesses, I do believe them in what they saw (to clarify).