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Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by rstregooski
Bwahahah well at least you finally have the balls to admit you want to deny education and healthcare to the poor.
How many Paul supporters agree? Thomas Jefferson didn't.
I guess he was one of the bad founding fathers.
Jefferson campaigned for years for free education
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by charles1952
It's about the level of government running them. It's about defunding them. The Libertarian ideal is to remove free education. It's being argued that free education is unconstitutional.
Do you think that's the case??
In his book Notes on the State of Virginia, (1785), Jefferson had described his ideas for public education at the elementary level. In 1817 he proposed a plan for a system of limited state public education for males only, in keeping with the times. It depended on public grammar schools, and further education of a limited number of the best students, and those whose parents wanted to pay for them
Originally posted by rstregooski
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by rstregooski
Bwahahah well at least you finally have the balls to admit you want to deny education and healthcare to the poor.
How many Paul supporters agree? Thomas Jefferson didn't.
I guess he was one of the bad founding fathers.
Let's clarify your position here.. So you are saying that basic education is a right, but college education is not a right? Or college education is a right, so let's get the government to pay for that too and see how all of that works out.. Think about it..
So if you call yourself American than you must realize that the Constitution defines America. So to stick hard to the Constitution is crazy, is it? Because I've read it several times and it does not allow government to control education..edit on 16-2-2012 by rstregooski because: (no reason given)edit on 16-2-2012 by rstregooski because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Cassius666
Originally posted by rstregooski
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by rstregooski
Bwahahah well at least you finally have the balls to admit you want to deny education and healthcare to the poor.
How many Paul supporters agree? Thomas Jefferson didn't.
I guess he was one of the bad founding fathers.
Let's clarify your position here.. So you are saying that basic education is a right, but college education is not a right? Or college education is a right, so let's get the government to pay for that too and see how all of that works out.. Think about it..
So if you call yourself American than you must realize that the Constitution defines America. So to stick hard to the Constitution is crazy, is it? Because I've read it several times and it does not allow government to control education..edit on 16-2-2012 by rstregooski because: (no reason given)edit on 16-2-2012 by rstregooski because: (no reason given)
Control and fund are 2 pair of shoes. And what do you mean "lets see how that works out"? Its been done, goverment healthcare free education, in other countries. I dont know what images come to mind when I say France or Germany, but I dont see how somebody in America could not want some of that.
The idea that you think education should be completely free and government funded shows you to be the most anti-american person I've encountered in a while.
The fact of the matter is you said ANY state funding of education is unAmerican.
The idea that you think education should be completely free and government funded shows you to be the most anti-american person I've encountered in a while.
The idea that you think education should be completely free and government funded shows you to be the most anti-american person I've encountered in a while.