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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
So where the cluck is a chemtrail spray when you need one?
7 hours of hauling water wetting down as much as we can,
packed if they show up to evacuate us, most of our neighbors have released their animals.
Our animals are drawing straws see if they can't stop it (fire) which ones go in the truck.
Chemtrails when you really need them , No such luck.
azstarnet.com...
edit on 11-2-2012 by Gmoneycricket because: (no reason given)
Wow! Are You a paid government employee? Or simply an peron who is blinded. 24yrs in this mans military, I know what they are doing. Operation Clover leaf is real! Not fantasy!! I have sample after sample of chemtrail material in My possession, We did not wait for it to fall, We gathered it airborne, not terrestrially as others have done. I have seen from 50lb sacks to sealed 250lb pressurized cylinders with multiple components involved. On the darpa sorties, "OTHER" material is added and those flights are highly classified and are generally completed at night so as to prevent irradiation (solar) from sterilizing the compounds, since it's whole purpose is inhalation by the populace. You have no clue what Your talking about! Or... You are indeed a government employee or contractor...NWO??!! Contrails do not release toxins & metals into the atmosphere and eventually becoming part of the lower atmosphere and the air humans breath. Either way...the jig is up, the movement has gained tremendous momentum and the truth (backed by science) is being purveyed towards the masses, which is eliciting a response in turn.
(you should note that the bottom of this Wiki page mentions Operation LAC's use of this toxic bacteria).
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by LeonoraTenen
I think you may wish to re-read the Wiki articles....
Originally posted by ProudBird
(you should note that the bottom of this Wiki page mentions Operation LAC's use of this toxic bacteria).
"Operation LAC" was underway in 1957-1958.....and is very similar to a test conducted in the UK (and has been mentioned before, in this Forum). With zinc cadmium.
The specific Wiki article about the "red" bacteria says that it was disperse ONCE, in 1950....released by BALLOONS! Not airplanes.
Originally posted by ProudBird
these tests were using what at the time were thought to be benign materials,
Originally posted by ProudBird
IF you understand the methodology (and mindset) back then......
the whole reason was to attempt to learn about distribution patterns, as it was the 'COLD WAR', and the fear was that the USSR might wish to attack with airborne pathogens......of course, this never happened, did it.....?
Originally posted by LeonoraTenen
Sorry, anybody with 1/2 a brain can see that and it just makes you look like a shill.
Originally posted by jdub297
First, the quoted passage was only part of a longer anonymous rant posted in response to criticism of the recent follow-up to the famously debunked WITWATS video.
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by LeonoraTenen
Sorry, anybody with 1/2 a brain can see that and it just makes you look like a shill.
wow, you went right for the Shill comment. No foreplay, no cuddle time. You should learn to do a bit more strokin, and a bit less pokin.
Nobody deny's that chemtrails could exist, what they deny is that every line in the sky that lasts longer than 2 minutes is automatically a chemtrail. Science had a nasty way of making people who ignore it look like asses.
I not sayin, I'm just sayin.
Originally posted by LeonoraTenen
Now. I have presented evidence that our government and military have willingly conducted tests on the unsuspecting civilian population at large.
What are you going to do to debunk the book "Clouds of Secrecy"?? I've asked you guys this numerous times and it keeps going unacknowledged, ignored and I challenge you to discount the evidence which this book presents, which supports the argument --->by Chemtrailers, that our government *would* do something like this secretly, without it being known or reported.
That is all I wish to debate at this point, because if we can't even come to agreements about something that is factually and historically un-challenged, then I don't see how you "debunkers" can be trusted to carry on an honest conversation. If you're discounting good evidence, that's just manipulation and trickery.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
You aren't teh 1st to do so, and it's not a secret any more.....
Evidence of past testing is NOT evidence of current testing.
By all means be suspicious - I don't think anyone has a problem with people being suspicious of the Govt - sure some are, some aren't, some are deeply suspicious, some only slightly - so opinions differ, but regardless of my opinion I won't argue with your right to hold a contrary one.
In all those past tests they were looking to spread something that was detectable, that had symptoms, that they could check the spread of, etc.
So with all that easy testing, sharing of information - there still isn't 1 single piece of verifiable evidence that anything is happening NOW (or for the last 15 years) by way of "stuff" being pumped out of jet engines....other than normal exhaust products.
Ultimately that is all it is about - calling someone a shill, or a chemmie...
Originally posted by LeonoraTenen
Originally posted by network dude
THAT is why we try to educate those who are not too far gone.
But what if it turns out that you're wrong??
Then your "education" is actually destructive "disinformation".
.. And then you basically sold out your fellow man, (and yourself, but then who cares about you?) while being totally convinced of something that was untrue.
And the worst part of all, is they are teaching this stupidity to their children!