Exodus 15 Prophetic Song of Moses

1Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the LORD, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.

2The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.

3The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

4Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea.

5The depths have covered them: they sank into the bottom as a stone.

6Thy right hand, O LORD, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O LORD, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.

7And in the greatness of thine excellency thou hast overthrown them that rose up against thee: thou sentest forth thy wrath, which consumed them as stubble.

8And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.

9The enemy said, I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil; my lust shall be satisfied upon them; I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them.

10Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in the mighty waters.

11Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?

12Thou stretchedst out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them.

13Thou in thy mercy hast led forth the people which thou hast redeemed: thou hast guided them in thy strength unto thy holy habitation.

14The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

15Then the dukes of Edom shall be amazed; the mighty men of Moab, trembling shall take hold upon them; all the inhabitants of Canaan shall melt away.

16Fear and dread shall fall upon them; by the greatness of thine arm they shall be as still as a stone; till thy people pass over, O LORD, till the people pass over, which thou hast purchased.

17Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O LORD, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O LORD, which thy hands have established.

18The LORD shall reign for ever and ever.

19For the horse of Pharaoh went in with his chariots and with his horsemen into the sea, and the LORD brought again the waters of the sea upon them; but the children of Israel went on dry land in the midst of the sea.

20And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.

21And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.

22So Moses brought Israel from the Red sea, and they went out into the wilderness of Shur; and they went three days in the wilderness, and found no water.

23And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter: therefore the name of it was called Marah.

24And the people murmured against Moses, saying, What shall we drink?

25And he cried unto the LORD; and the LORD shewed him a tree, which when he had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet: there he made for them a statute and an ordinance, and there he proved them,

26And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.

27And they came to Elim, where were twelve wells of water, and threescore and ten palm trees: and they encamped there by the waters.

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Interesting. We know Moses was a prophet, could he be singing of future events?

17Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O LORD, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O LORD, which thy hands have established

Which LORD Inherited Mt. Moriah? Who is the King of kings and the true King of Israel?

Mattew 12: 1-8

1At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat.

2But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.

3But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;

4How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

5Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

6But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.

7But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

8For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.


For the Son of Man is Lord, even of the Sabbath Day

Interesting, that the Temple was made for Jesus to dwell in. No wonder he grew angry and kicked over the tables of the money changers when he saw them profaning his house.

Doubly interesting for Jesus to say these words:

Matthew 12:7 : But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

He talks like he is God himself!

John 8: 56-59

56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Hmmm, Jesus existed before Abraham was ever born, and the jews tried to stone him for saying this.

Guess we know who Immanu'el is...Jesus a.k.a. Yahshua haMeshiach. Guess we know who Moses was singing about who would destroy the Edomite Dukes and Moabites of Palestine. I wonder who they could be? Is Moses singing about the Lord destroying the jews who some call Khazars? Or is Moses singing about the Lord destroying some islamic arabs? Who are the squatters camping out on his land? This question is open for debate, let the debating commence.

There's really no telling what the heck this stuff is about.

We've tried before, and now we've got several different religions based off of one supposedly "absolute" book.

Tells you how well it worked, right?

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Absolutely he was a prophet. Yes, he was talking about future events.

1And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. 3And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. 4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest. 5And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:

These are those who overcome the mark of the beast. This event in Revelation occurs just before the seven plagues are poured out on earth.

5And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: 6And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. 7And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. 8And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

If we go back to the first chapter.

5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Look at what He says about the church of Philadelphia

12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Who? Jesus said those who are spiritually in the church of Philadelphia will become pillars and God will write His name on us and the name of the city on us. And whose new name? Jesus will have a new name, one written and spoken in a pure language that is holy.

Originally posted by Starchild23
There's really no telling what the heck this stuff is about.

We've tried before, and now we've got several different religions based off of one supposedly "absolute" book.

Tells you how well it worked, right?

edit on CThursdaypm222232f32America/Chicago02 by Starchild23 because: (no reason given)

There is a difference in having a religion and having a faith. The true Christian will always say they have faith in Jesus Christ as Lord, and do those things Jesus commanded. The true Christian knows how to rise above traditions of men and old wives tales, both of which Jesus taught us to shun.

When you think of Christianity, are you referring to those people who follow traditions of men, or are you talking about the true believers who heard His voice and believed in Him. He is not dead, I don't know if you heard that or not.

Guess we know who Immanu'el is...Jesus a.k.a. Yahshua haMeshiach. Guess we know who Moses was singing about who would destroy the Edomite Dukes and Moabites of Palestine. I wonder who they could be? Is Moses singing about the Lord destroying the jews who some call Khazars? Or is Moses singing about the Lord destroying some islamic arabs? Who are the squatters camping out on his land? This question is open for debate, let the debating commence.

While searching the depths of the interwebs for possible answers to my own questions (too many to go into here), I came across this document.
It is rather convoluted in writing style, describing how the ancient religions have intermingled in and out of political and social structures throughout history. So far, this document makes the most sense of all the "conspiracy theories" currently running rampant. I am only halfway thru (it is 438 pages).
I won't kid you, it is some heavy reading and I would suggest having a bible and encyclopedia handy.
You stated in an earlier thread that the ultimate enemy is Lucifer. I agree. I also believe that these imposters (zionists) are his servants, albeit some unknowingly.

Originally posted by occrest

Guess we know who Immanu'el is...Jesus a.k.a. Yahshua haMeshiach. Guess we know who Moses was singing about who would destroy the Edomite Dukes and Moabites of Palestine. I wonder who they could be? Is Moses singing about the Lord destroying the jews who some call Khazars? Or is Moses singing about the Lord destroying some islamic arabs? Who are the squatters camping out on his land? This question is open for debate, let the debating commence.

While searching the depths of the interwebs for possible answers to my own questions (too many to go into here), I came across this document.
It is rather convoluted in writing style, describing how the ancient religions have intermingled in and out of political and social structures throughout history. So far, this document makes the most sense of all the "conspiracy theories" currently running rampant. I am only halfway thru (it is 438 pages).
I won't kid you, it is some heavy reading and I would suggest having a bible and encyclopedia handy.
You stated in an earlier thread that the ultimate enemy is Lucifer. I agree. I also believe that these imposters (zionists) are his servants, albeit some unknowingly.

The lie that anti-Semitics use to promote Replacement Theology always fall back on the zionist argument about imposters in the church.

If you read it you will understand that there were SOME who were calling themselves Jews who were not really Jews. We can take that same phrase and insert Christian, because there are many people in church who are pretending to be Christian. It says "there are those who call themselves Jews..."

One can say they are anything, but the proof is in their actions. Those imposters were not the whole of the Jewish faith and race, they were not Zionists either. Show me a verse from the Bible that specifically says that all Jews are imposters and that all Jews are Zionists. Can you show me a verse?

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by occrest

Guess we know who Immanu'el is...Jesus a.k.a. Yahshua haMeshiach. Guess we know who Moses was singing about who would destroy the Edomite Dukes and Moabites of Palestine. I wonder who they could be? Is Moses singing about the Lord destroying the jews who some call Khazars? Or is Moses singing about the Lord destroying some islamic arabs? Who are the squatters camping out on his land? This question is open for debate, let the debating commence.

While searching the depths of the interwebs for possible answers to my own questions (too many to go into here), I came across this document.
It is rather convoluted in writing style, describing how the ancient religions have intermingled in and out of political and social structures throughout history. So far, this document makes the most sense of all the "conspiracy theories" currently running rampant. I am only halfway thru (it is 438 pages).
I won't kid you, it is some heavy reading and I would suggest having a bible and encyclopedia handy.
You stated in an earlier thread that the ultimate enemy is Lucifer. I agree. I also believe that these imposters (zionists) are his servants, albeit some unknowingly.

The lie that anti-Semitics use to promote Replacement Theology always fall back on the zionist argument about imposters in the church.

If you read it you will understand that there were SOME who were calling themselves Jews who were not really Jews. We can take that same phrase and insert Christian, because there are many people in church who are pretending to be Christian. It says "there are those who call themselves Jews..."

One can say they are anything, but the proof is in their actions. Those imposters were not the whole of the Jewish faith and race, they were not Zionists either. Show me a verse from the Bible that specifically says that all Jews are imposters and that all Jews are Zionists. Can you show me a verse?

Which is why Jesus said you would know them by their fruits (actions). He didn't leave us defenseless against them, he also didn't leave us ignorant about the wolves in sheep's clothing.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Good post here, always fun to read about Bible prophacy, S & F

As for your question:

Guess we know who Moses was singing about who would destroy the Edomite Dukes and Moabites of Palestine. I wonder who they could be? Is Moses singing about the Lord destroying the jews who some call Khazars? Or is Moses singing about the Lord destroying some islamic arabs? Who are the squatters camping out on his land? This question is open for debate, let the debating commence.

I would say the LORD (Jesus Christ) will kill a bunch of both. The Arabs for trying to take the land promised to God's chosen people, and the Jews for rejecting His Son and living wickedly scattered through out the nations as international bankers, Hollywood producers, black market organ traffickers, child pornographers, and the list goes on and on.

But after God is done killing all those Jews that need killing....He will accept and save "as in one day" the remaining remnant of Israel and Judah. Those Jews who survive the tribulation will own all the middle east and will be a Blessing to everyone gentile on the planet instead of a curse AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW to us gentiles....(cough, cough, bankers!)

Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

Good post here, always fun to read about Bible prophacy, S & F

As for your question:

Guess we know who Moses was singing about who would destroy the Edomite Dukes and Moabites of Palestine. I wonder who they could be? Is Moses singing about the Lord destroying the jews who some call Khazars? Or is Moses singing about the Lord destroying some islamic arabs? Who are the squatters camping out on his land? This question is open for debate, let the debating commence.

I would say the LORD (Jesus Christ) will kill a bunch of both. The Arabs for trying to take the land promised to God's chosen people, and the Jews for rejecting His Son and living wickedly scattered through out the nations as international bankers, Hollywood producers, black market organ traffickers, child pornographers, and the list goes on and on.

But after God is done killing all those Jews that need killing....He will accept and save "as in one day" the remaining remnant of Israel and Judah. Those Jews who survive the tribulation will own all the middle east and will be a Blessing to everyone gentile on the planet instead of a curse AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW to us gentiles....(cough, cough, bankers!)

Please tell me you are not a preterist and you believe in Replacement Theology as a cover for anti-Semitism. The Jews that need killing???? Are you serious that you just said that?

reply to post by WarminIndy

Please tell me you are not a preterist and you believe in Replacement Theology as a cover for anti-Semitism. The Jews that need killing???? Are you serious that you just said that?

Of course I believe in replacement theology! You can't be a student of the Holy Bible and not be. But I take the true teachings of the Bible which is multiple replacement have took place and will take place in the future.

Have you not read? God first dealt with Gentiles as His people: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Job, even Abram!

Then He chose a man out of the gentile nations to make a people of His own, His chosen people from Abraham. He about replaced all of Abraham's seed with Moses' but Moses talked him out of it...but that's another tale

God even came down to His people in the form of Jesus Christ. They rejected Him...thus God rejected them...you reap what you sow!

God once again turns to the gentiles!! Choosing a new "seed" for His bride. Once the times of the gentiles are fulfilled....God will once turn from the gentiles and save and accept His original people once again, the JEWS, after the tribulation!

So as you can clearly see, You can't believe the Bible and not believe in replacement theology too. God not only replaced a chosen people...He did it 4 times!


And yes, there are Jews that need killing. God knows why (and I do too, but if might be to much for you and others to handle) and God will do the killing Himself this time instead of Hitler. But don't get me wrong, God is an equal opportunity killer....He will kill tons more gentiles during the tribulation as well. Saddle up boys! (Rev 19)

And no I am not anti-Semitic...My savior is a Jew....plus Jews will rule this world soon....so I am basically pro Zionism.....only with Jesus Christ as the King in Jerusalem though Keep reading that Bible bud.....there is tons in there!

Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by WarminIndy

 

Please tell me you are not a preterist and you believe in Replacement Theology as a cover for anti-Semitism. The Jews that need killing???? Are you serious that you just said that?

Of course I believe in replacement theology! You can't be a student of the Holy Bible and not be. But I take the true teachings of the Bible which is multiple replacement have took place and will take place in the future.

Have you not read? God first dealt with Gentiles as His people: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Job, even Abram!

Then He chose a man out of the gentile nations to make a people of His own, His chosen people from Abraham. He about replaced all of Abraham's seed with Moses' but Moses talked him out of it...but that's another tale

God even came down to His people in the form of Jesus Christ. They rejected Him...thus God rejected them...you reap what you sow!

God once again turns to the gentiles!! Choosing a new "seed" for His bride. Once the times of the gentiles are fulfilled....God will once turn from the gentiles and save and accept His original people once again, the JEWS, after the tribulation!

So as you can clearly see, You can't believe the Bible and not believe in replacement theology too. God not only replaced a chosen people...He did it 4 times!


And yes, there are Jews that need killing. God knows why (and I do too, but if might be to much for you and others to handle) and God will do the killing Himself this time instead of Hitler. But don't get me wrong, God is an equal opportunity killer....He will kill tons more gentiles during the tribulation as well. Saddle up boys! (Rev 19)

And no I am not anti-Semitic...My savior is a Jew....plus Jews will rule this world soon....so I am basically pro Zionism.....only with Jesus Christ as the King in Jerusalem though

Keep reading that Bible bud.....there is tons in there!

I am so sorry you have replaced the Jews...seeing as how you were merely grafted in to an already existing branch.

But I suppose God is unable to keep His promise that He would open their eyes that He closed. Is God unable to keep His word?

reply to post by WarminIndy

I am so sorry you have replaced the Jews...seeing as how you were merely grafted in to an already existing branch.

Do you even know what any of this means?
You are just told something at your cult meetings and you accept it as fact, no questions asked?
Root.
Grafted to the root, not a branch.
The old branches were cut off.

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by occrest

Guess we know who Immanu'el is...Jesus a.k.a. Yahshua haMeshiach. Guess we know who Moses was singing about who would destroy the Edomite Dukes and Moabites of Palestine. I wonder who they could be? Is Moses singing about the Lord destroying the jews who some call Khazars? Or is Moses singing about the Lord destroying some islamic arabs? Who are the squatters camping out on his land? This question is open for debate, let the debating commence.

While searching the depths of the interwebs for possible answers to my own questions (too many to go into here), I came across this document.
It is rather convoluted in writing style, describing how the ancient religions have intermingled in and out of political and social structures throughout history. So far, this document makes the most sense of all the "conspiracy theories" currently running rampant. I am only halfway thru (it is 438 pages).
I won't kid you, it is some heavy reading and I would suggest having a bible and encyclopedia handy.
You stated in an earlier thread that the ultimate enemy is Lucifer. I agree. I also believe that these imposters (zionists) are his servants, albeit some unknowingly.

The lie that anti-Semitics use to promote Replacement Theology always fall back on the zionist argument about imposters in the church.

If you read it you will understand that there were SOME who were calling themselves Jews who were not really Jews. We can take that same phrase and insert Christian, because there are many people in church who are pretending to be Christian. It says "there are those who call themselves Jews..."

One can say they are anything, but the proof is in their actions. Those imposters were not the whole of the Jewish faith and race, they were not Zionists either. Show me a verse from the Bible that specifically says that all Jews are imposters and that all Jews are Zionists. Can you show me a verse?

You know good and well there is no verse that specifically says that ALL jews are imposters and ALL jews are zionists, however Judaism became null with the resurrection of Jesus, and this became evident with the torn veil in the Holy of Holies, and even further with the destruction of the temple in AD 70. Zionists want their temple back. I think they will get it as a result of WW3 but that is another thread.

As far as bloodlines are concerned, the Edomites are the descendants of Esau, who gave up his birthright for a bowl of stew, and the Moabites are the product of the incestuous Lot and his eldest daughter after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

If you read it you will understand that there were SOME who were calling themselves Jews who were not really Jews. We can take that same phrase and insert Christian, because there are many people in church who are pretending to be Christian.

reply to post by WarminIndy

I fully agree with you here with people calling themselves Christian and are not. Wolves in sheeps clothing is what they are called. And they are many, which is why there are so many denominations to choose from, and why I beleive that 'church' (read corral/sheep pen/trap) is one of the most dangerous places to be.

reply to post by KJV1611

You can't be a student of the Holy Bible and not be.

That's not true whatsoever.

reply to post by WarminIndy

But I suppose God is unable to keep His promise that He would open their eyes that He closed. Is God unable to keep His word?

Apparently so. Or this verse dealing with the purpose of the great tribulation:

"I will go away and return to My place Until they acknowledge their guilt and seek My face; In their affliction they will earnestly seek Me." ~ Hosea 5:15

reply to post by occrest
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reply to post by NOTurTypical


What's not true? Are Christians God's chosen people, or are Jews RIGHT now as in Feb 03, 2012? And if you can answer that correctly....who will be God's chosen people right after the tribulation and through out the millennium? I'm curious to see if you or any others know.

Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

Good post here, always fun to read about Bible prophacy, S & F

As for your question:

Guess we know who Moses was singing about who would destroy the Edomite Dukes and Moabites of Palestine. I wonder who they could be? Is Moses singing about the Lord destroying the jews who some call Khazars? Or is Moses singing about the Lord destroying some islamic arabs? Who are the squatters camping out on his land? This question is open for debate, let the debating commence.

I would say the LORD (Jesus Christ) will kill a bunch of both. The Arabs for trying to take the land promised to God's chosen people, and the Jews for rejecting His Son and living wickedly scattered through out the nations as international bankers, Hollywood producers, black market organ traffickers, child pornographers, and the list goes on and on.

But after God is done killing all those Jews that need killing....He will accept and save "as in one day" the remaining remnant of Israel and Judah. Those Jews who survive the tribulation will own all the middle east and will be a Blessing to everyone gentile on the planet instead of a curse AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW to us gentiles....(cough, cough, bankers!)

Thats a different spin on it. I never really thought it could be that way. There are verses that speak of him being angry with them and turning his face from them but when they repent he forgives them and forgets they ever turned from him. It's a repeating cycle throughout the ages. The hebrew become prideful and stiffnecked and they forget him and he punishes them, then they return to the fold for a while and it starts all over again. Theyre backsliders but he always forgives them when they repent. Wash rinse and repeat, ofcourse what they do is no different than what alot of christians do and i will be the first to confess i do it myself, i would be a hypocrite if i tried to pretend i was perfect and didn't sin.

God doesn't really have as much of a problem with blacksliders as he does people who choose to stay that way and revel in it and wallow in that sin and love it. Those are the wicked people, those who refuse to repent and do not want to. Those who believe they have done no wrong and do not heed their conscience. Your conscience is one of the many ways he communicates with you and convicts you of your wrong doings. When you no longer heed your conscience or do not have one, thats when he has turned you over to the repribate one. Sometimes he uses Satan to break people of their pride so they will return to him and seek his face.

Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

What's not true? Are Christians God's chosen people, or are Jews RIGHT now as in Feb 03, 2012? And if you can answer that correctly....who will be God's chosen people right after the tribulation and through out the millennium? I'm curious to see if you or any others know.

Well, by Christ's blood we have been accepted into the royal family, but ofcourse we're the bastard children the other tribes refuse to acknowledge. They reject us like they rejected Jesus but it will not always remain so. My God is mighty to save and there isn't a person on this planet he doesn't have the power to break of their pride. When he has reforged the 12 tribes from the 144k remnant, our tribe will be added to them and the 12 will become 13, just as Jesus and the 12 apostles add up to 13 and there are 13 months in the hebrew calendar. The number 13 seems to pop up quite alot in the bible, i don't know if it has any relevance but i can't say that it does not.