Why my mind is closing towards Capitalism

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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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Thats New York.

The US is a bit bigger. There were not 50 states until two centuries later.




posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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Hello... When America started there was no structure. No schools. No roads. No buildings. Just men with guns who defended themselves and women who raised their kids.


You are so naive my friend.

Child labour laws in the US ended in 1832, long after the country was first colonized in the 1600's. Parts of the country were well established by the end of the 1600's. In 1680 Quakers protested against slavery, colleges of higher education in Virginia and Massachusetts were opened in the 1600's, (while they were struggling with No schools. No roads. No buildings. (sic))

I guess next you'll say slavery was needed?



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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No, I don't agree with slavery. But I can see how and why we had it.

I believe in the constitution, All men are created equal.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by aching_knuckles
 


Thats New York.

The US is a bit bigger. There were not 50 states until two centuries later.


And that matter why?

You just keep moving the goal posts. The US wasn't 50 states then, it was what it was. People didn't live in the empty country side, this is not Hollywood. People lived in the towns, were there were road and schools and buildings.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK

You are so naive my friend.
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It pains me to see my countrymen like this. I dont know if its the flouride in the water, constant bombardment from right wing media or what, but ALOT of people are like this guy, lacking any functional cognitive skills and ability to look deeper. I used to think they were all trolls, but after meeting several in "real life", Ive come to the conclusion that we are #ed.

These people are the majority. No critical thinking, just parroting. Seriously, what can we do to talk sense into these people? FOX and CNN have BILLIONS to waste on programming these people, and we have an internet message board where we waste hours in futile attempts to make people learn common sense.

They cant even be bothered to check basic facts and just say crazy crap over and over! But you know what Hitler said..Keep repeating the same lie long enough and it becomes truth...

Im am however convinced that if "paid trolls" exist, they are like this guy. He wasted our entire night...1 person took out 2, and hes not going to learn anything from this. Instead of us arguing with this dip #, we should have been working together on a plan.
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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No, I don't agree with slavery. But I can see how and why we had it.

I believe in the constitution, All men are created equal.


Equality in a capitalist economy?

Another oxymoron, or ironically moronic?



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:52 AM
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Actually the Us GOv gave out land grabs.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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No, I don't agree with slavery. But I can see how and why we had it.

I believe in the constitution, All men are created equal.


Equality in a capitalist economy?


LOL

Dont expect him to get that, but it is so true....all of these hardcore right wingers believe say they believe in the Constitution and all its ideals...then constantly spit on them.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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They cant even be bothered to check basic facts and just say crazy crap over and over! But you know what Hitler said..Keep repeating the same lie long enough and it becomes truth...


Was Hitler your hero?

What about Stalin and Lenin? I bet they are jealous.




posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:56 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
Was Hitler your hero?

What about Stalin and Lenin? I bet they are jealous.



I wasnt even going to dignify this with a response, but...
See what I mean?


Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Im am however convinced that if "paid trolls" exist, they are like this guy. He wasted our entire night...1 person took out 2, and hes not going to learn anything from this. Instead of us arguing with this dip #, we should have been working together on a plan.


Goodnight everyone, even you MR. PROVEN LIAR WHO HAS NO HONOR.
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:58 AM
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and good night to you murderous soul who has no chuckles.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:08 AM
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It's especially sad when people have the best tool to find information there has ever been, 'teh net'.

When I was young, and wanted to learn this stuff I had to get off my ass and do real research at libraries, book stalls, social meetings, having real live debates with people etc.

I used to love the heated debates with the old anarchists in the White Hart pub in Whitechapel, London. They debated stuff like, should anarchists drive Rolls Royce's after the revolution over their pints of brown ale. That's how you learn about people, and the real history of the working class struggle. Some of those old guys had participated in the Spanish revolution when they were teenagers. Not kids running around in black, real revolutionary anarchists now living on nothing but pints of beer and memories.

The state of peoples thinking these days just depresses me. There used to be a strong politically motivated working class in England and the US.

Reclaim May Day!

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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:14 AM
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I met a guy a log time ago who was in the IRA and while I was young and NAIVE
we didn't agree on much.

But his place was impressive. It was a one room apartment with a full bar and his bed was a bunk on top of the bar.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:19 AM
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TextWhen I was young, and wanted to learn this stuff I had to get off my ass and do real research at libraries, book stalls, social meetings, having real live debates with people etc. I used to love the heated debates with the old anarchists in the White Hart pub in Whitechapel, London. They debated stuff like, should anarchists drive Rolls Royce's after the revolution over their pints of brown ale. That's how you learn about people, and the real history of the working class struggle. Some of those old guys had participated in the Spanish revolution when they were teenagers. Not kids running around in black, real revolutionary anarchists now living on nothing but pints of beer and memories.


Holy crap thats interesting.That would have been awesome listening to those debates.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:51 AM
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Meeting a guy in the IRA is interesting too.

You guys make me feel boring.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by theubermensch

Holy crap thats interesting.That would have been awesome listening to those debates.


That was in the late 70's early 80's when anarchism was becoming popular again.

The White Hart was an older anarchist hangout, Freedom Press, an anarchist printers and book store, was down an alley next door. The pub has a lot of history, including a Jack the Ripper suspect who had a barber shop in the basement lol, forget the name.




There was no BK when I was there, American imperialism spreading to the colonies lol.

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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:56 AM
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It looks pretty cool.

I would like to visit the UK only I would probably kill somebody trying to drive on the left side of the road.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 05:00 AM
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He was kinda scary actually.

But he liked to talk politics and kept pouring me beers as long as I would sit there and listen to him.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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It looks pretty cool.



And just think, if you have an aversion to the anarchist talk in the White Hart, you can pop next door for some American Capitalism wrapped in a bun.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 05:08 AM
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I am not saying it is ok for there being people going hungry, but in socialism/communism the MAJORITY goes hungry and are poor.

As I have said, and proved several times the reason why there is so much poverty and suffering in countries like the Republic of the United States is because Americans allowed "progressives/leftwingers" to implement their ideas.

Whoever controls the economy of a nation, controls that nation, and leftwingers/progressive democrats gave power over the economy of the Republic of the United States to the rich bankers and they created a central bank.

Central banks, and centralization/consolidaiton of power is part of socialism and communism.

In communism the 5th plank out of 10 is the creation of a central bank.

In socialism/communism cooperative enterprises/corporations are allowed to control the nation.

It is because of socialist/communist ideas that the Republic of the United States, and in fact the world is in so much s#it.

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