posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 03:10 AM
Originally posted by Leftist
Great thread, its good to see people questioning capitalism, a previously seemingly unquestionable thing.
The way capitalism produces alienation is a big piece of the puzzle. Without going too deep into it, alienation can be undestood in this sense
as alienation of a worker from what he produces. A craftsman who makes his own ox-cart is intimately bound up with the final product, and its
production gives him power, autonomy, achievement, and all sorts of other things.
Agreed; but I've always felt that one mistake that Communist advocates make where Capitalism is concerned, is in assuming that the cause of the
problem is a specific economic ideology, rather than human nature on a deeper level.
What I mean by that, is actually the human collectivist impulse itself. I've recently started wondering whether or not collectivism can really ever
be a positive thing, (except at maybe extremely small scales) simply because there is an overwhelming human tendency, for a single psychopathic
individual, to be able to dictate to the rest of the population, and said non-psychopathic population being entirely willing to go along with that.
I'm not meaning to imply that that has only happened within a Communist context; it has happened with both.
I'm just not sure how we can get past the problem of the psychopaths, and I don't think that changing the economic paradigm we use, by itself, is
going to go far enough. This is especially true, when I consider the possible evidence that I've seen, which has implied to me that Marx himself was
under the control of the Illuminati, and that in terms of the entire Capitalism/Communism conflict, they essentially devised and have been
manipulating both sides.
I think we really need to somehow create a situation where individual human beings are willing to be personally responsible for how they think, and
which orders (if any) they follow. I can't see any other way to become immune to the cabal's influence, irrespective of which economic system we're
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