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After 16 years of denial, the White House Science Czar John P Holdren now admits that they have been “testing” the manipulation of Earth’s atmosphere with Barium salts, Aluminum Dioxide and other toxic compounds
Government climate dignitaries and the Associated Press hailed the “landmark” deal reached Sunday at the United Nations' global-warming summit in Durban, South Africa. According to environmentalist groups, however, the agreement represented a failure of the 17th Conference of the Parties (COP17) to “save” the world from supposedly “dangerous” carbon dioxide emissions.
After running over their scheduled time by more than 36 hours, exhausted “negotiators” representing more than 190 regimes — mostly dictatorships — agreed to work out an enforceable treaty by 2015. The global climate regime would enter into force some five years after that.
Let me reiterate that Geo-engineering is happening, it has been admitted, we see it almost everyday going on above our head, nobody is making progress because every debate turns into the chemtrail v contrail debate.
A lake 10 miles from mount shasta had a water purity test that came back at over 370.000 ppm of aluminium
three hundred seventy thousand parts per million. 370 thousand times the EPA activity level.
Mount shasta in California had a test done on the snow, if you saw the youtube you would know that the test came back at 63.000 parts per million, the EPA response level is 1000ppm.
Originally posted by Phage
Mount shasta in California had a test done on the snow, if you saw the youtube you would know that the test came back at 63.000 parts per million, the EPA response level is 1000ppm.
More fact checking: The EPA has no "response level" for aluminum, much less aluminum in snow.
Please don't post yet, im still writing.
Originally posted by The X
Here are some of the most vocal proponents of the AGW position.
Bill Nye, B.S. Mechanical Engineering (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
Gavin Schmidt, Ph.D. Applied Mathematics
James Hansen, Ph.D. Physics
Joe Romm, Ph.D. Physics
John P. Holden, Ph.D. Theoretical Plasma Physics
Lonnie Thompson, Ph.D. Geological Science
Michael Mann, Ph.D. Geology
Michael Oppenheimer, Ph.D. Chemical Physics
Rajendra K. Pachauri, Ph.D. Industrial Engineering (IPCC Chairman)
Steven Schneider, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering and Plasma Physics
Tom J. Chalko, Ph.D. Laser Holography
These are some of the most vocal proponents of Global warming.
Now this is a list of the most ardent and vocal skeptics to AGW.
David R. Legates, Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, University of Delaware
Hans Jelbring, Ph.D. Climatology, Sweden
John R. Christy, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville
Marcel Leroux, Professor Emeritus of Climatology, University of Lyon, France
Patrick J. Michaels, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology
Richard A. Keen, Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, University of Colorado
Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, MIT
Robert C. Balling Jr., Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, Arizona State University
Robert E. Davis, Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, University of Virginia
Tim F. Ball, Ph.D. Climatology
Do you see the difference?
Here, we use an extensive dataset of 1,372 climate
researchers and their publication and citation data to show that (i)
97–98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the
field support the tenets of ACC outlined by the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change, and (ii) the relative climate expertise and
scientific prominence of the researchers unconvinced of ACC are
substantially below that of the convinced researchers.
From History of crime against the Food Laws (1929) by Dr. Wiley, the prime mover behind the original Pure Food Law and Director of the FDA. He resigned in disgust in 1912 over exceptions granted to the law and lack of enforcement. Aluminum has been exempted from tesitng for safety by the FDA under a convoluted logic wherein it is classified as GRAS. (Generally Regarded As Safe.) It has never been tested by the FDA on its safety and there are NO restrictions whatever on the amount or use of aluminum. There are over 2000 references in the National Library of Medicine on adverse effects of alumium.
Has the federal government made recommendations to protect human health? The EPA has recommended a Secondary Maximum Contaminant Level (SMCL) of 0.05–0.2 milligrams per liter (mg/L) for aluminum in drinking water. The SMCL is not based on levels that will affect humans or animals. It is based on taste, smell, or color. The Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) has limited workers' exposure to aluminum in dusts to 15 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m3) (total dust) and 5 mg/m3 (respirable fraction) of air for an 8-hour workday, 40-hour workweek. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has determined that aluminum used as food additives and medicinals such as antacids are generally safe.
The oral LD50 of aluminium nitrate, chloride, and sulfate in mice and rats ranges from 200 to 1000 mg of aluminium per kg of body weight (WHO, 1997).
According to the News Journal, "the Union of Concerned Scientists published a study listing Legates among several scientists it described as 'familiar spokespeople from ExxonMobil-funded organizations' that have regularly taken stands or sponsored reports questioning the science behind climate change warnings."[11] Legates is a senior scientist of the Marshall Institute,[12] a research fellow with the Independent Institute,[13] and an adjunct scholar of the Competitive Enterprise Institute,[14] all of which have received funding from ExxonMobil.[15][16]
Originally posted by The X
This is Geo-engineering it is happening, it is admitted by the PTB.
I have barely scratched the surface, bring info if you have it please.
The classic acute occupational heavy metal toxicity is metal fume fever (MFF), a self-limiting inhalation syndrome seen in workers exposed to metal oxide fumes. MFF, or "brass founder’s ague," "zinc shakes," or "Monday morning fever" as it is variously known, is characterized by fever, headache, fatigue, dyspnea, cough, and a metallic taste occurring within 3-10 hours after exposure. The usual culprit is zinc oxide, but MFF may occur with magnesium, cobalt, and copper oxide fumes as well.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Very informative thread!! Of particular interest to me, not having heard it before, was the video from the Vietnam Vet on weather modification. He states that in order to be able to test the rain produced from cloud seeding and verify that it came from their efforts, an 'exotic' element like zinc was added.
Zinc is an essential mineral that is naturally present in some foods, added to others, and available as a dietary supplement. Zinc is also found in many cold lozenges and some over-the-counter drugs sold as cold remedies.
Zinc is involved in numerous aspects of cellular metabolism. It is required for the catalytic activity of approximately 100 enzymes [1,2] and it plays a role in immune function [3,4], protein synthesis [4], wound healing [5], DNA synthesis [2,4], and cell division [4]. Zinc also supports normal growth and development during pregnancy, childhood, and adolescence [6-8] and is required for proper sense of taste and smell [9].
A daily intake of zinc is required to maintain a steady state because the body has no specialized zinc storage system [10].
We have a sure defense against those liability lawsuits. We place in our seeding materials a trace element of zinc or some other exotic material so that any rainfall that falls and uses our nuclei to cause the rainfall or the hail or whatever comes out of it...all they need to do is collect some of that water...find some of our tracer...material...
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Uncinus
What a waste of time you are. At about 30:00 in the video:
www.youtube.com...
We have a sure defense against those liability lawsuits. We place in our seeding materials a trace element of zinc or some other exotic material so that any rainfall that falls and uses our nuclei to cause the rainfall or the hail or whatever comes out of it...all they need to do is collect some of that water...find some of our tracer...material...
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Uncinus
The man said, "We place..." He didn't say: we could place; we should place; we might place. He said "We place."
And as far as your unbelievable statements about liability issues: the military has no liability issues because their claim is that they're not doing anything.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Uncinus
The man said, "We place..." He didn't say: we could place; we should place; we might place. He said "We place."
Well I guess that's open to interpretation.
He also says there has been no weather modification in the past 30-35 years, and that by volume the substances used are "nothing".