Originally posted by Deetermined
I'm sorry, but Shuruluni set himself up for the response that I gave to him. He said Muhammad did one thing and I only pointed out by using his own
religious text that Muhammad did just the opposite.
I am tired of keeping to refute the same old claims, ranging from classical orientalists to the modern-day bigots, whose only agenda always was and is
to slander and lie about our religion.
These claims have been refuted ACADEMICALLY countless times!
I myself have written about this in dozens and dozens of threads, replying to the same old claims, which repeatedly show up on forums like these.
The one thing in common is: no matter what the subject of discussion is, no matter what the OP is about, these people keep posting the SAME OLD claims
and derail every thread with it.
I will not discuss with you about your claims of whether Muhammad was a "false prophet" or what not - I have already refuted all these claims
countless times. The problem with some people is: although the refutations are there - the fact that they KEEP posting the same thing shows one thing:
They are NOT interested in the TRUTH - but have an agenda to keep insulting and slandering Islam.
Otherwise, once shown that their claims are false, they would not keep posting the same thing in every other thread.
Likewise, on this thread, which is about Iran and their 12th Imam - these same people keep posting the same things, which have NOTHING to do with the
subject, but they ABUSE the forums to further their agenda of slandering.
I can see them thinking to themselves when they see the Thread title "Iran/Imam/islam ..." - something like "Yay! Another thread where I can rant
about Muhammad and Islam and Qur'an and and ..."
They are not the least interested in academic discourse. They use derailing and circumstantial "evidence" and try to make every thread about a
specific islamic subject into a thread about the persona of Muhammad or what "this guy there wrote about Muhammad" or similar.
That is a real shame.
These people have apparently not understood what ATS is about: It's motto is "Deny ignorance". Well, after being ignorant about something in Islam,
and after people like me explaining the said thing, why do they keep posting the same claim AGAIN?
What is more interesting is, most of these people rant and slander Islam, but at the same time REFUSE to read the Qur'an, How on earth are they not
ASHAMED to write ANYTHING about Islam if they did not read it's holy book in the first place? What else is that but hypocrisy?
And finally on the subject at hand: Please STOP posting the SAME OLD claims like "Mahdi is the Antichrist" and similar tripe, when we have explained
it countless times that this is simply IMPOSSIBLE, since the Mahdi is said will FIGHT against the Antichrist.
Please stop repeating the same thing, and even creating new threads with the same old false claims.
Once and for all: Every hadith and prophecy about the Mahdi clearly states that he will be fighting against the antichrist, thus he cannot be the
You would not even need to read extensive works about the Mahdi or Islam in general to know this: Just read the Qur'an, and you will see that it is a
tenet of our faith to believe and love Christ - so how can anyone, being a muslim, then be ANTIchrist?
That being established, please return to the topic at hand, whether Iran is preparing for Armageddon.