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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:04 PM

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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:04 PM

Originally posted by UkRandom
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You're right in a way. TOR is not a safe place to be for non hackers (Or people that dont know much about the web).

And another thing folks YOUR REAL IP address can be traced back to you on TOR so dont think you're safe by just using TOR!!....
edit on Sat Jan 21 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:10 PM
Is there secret government info accessible thru Tor?

posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:11 PM

Originally posted by kai22
reply to post by benrl

I assume the same would apply to facebook aswell, darn shame lol.

How would it work for something like pirate bay? Obviously it doesn't require a login, so would the download run through the voluntary relays or straight to my own ip?

Thank you


No, well yes. You can use it to access tpb, but your torrent client will not use tor, and it would be slow as a wet week if you could hook it up. It's not meant for that.

if thats what you meant, if you just mean hiding yourself while browsing tpb, sure.. downloading a .torrent file sure.. but using a torrent client, no.

posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Warlock316
Is there secret government info accessible thru Tor?

So I've heard (not just on here either) however, as far as I can tell, if you didn't know the answer to that, then you probably don't stand a chance of finding it anyway. I could be wrong though.


posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:23 PM
reply to post by kai22

well im gonna start looking for that, cause that is what im interested in, ive looked alot of info since reading about Tor, and i know what to stay away from, but yah.... that is the info i want

posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:34 PM

I am a newb so excuse me if I repeat what has been said or posted but I have recently really enjoyed this video by the two creators of TOR.

28c3: How governments have tried to block Tor

I have used both the TOR browser package as well as TOR USB (TAILS). They both work beautifully.

I just wanted to add that, as I really appreciated the thread and I am a firm believer in a free and open internet.

I also like this project.

Nice to meet you all.


posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:27 PM
Reading this kind of frustrated me. I am fairly aware of the deep web and I've branched a tiny bit into the "darknet". Seeing a list of levels is just peaking my curiosity. As far as I know, I can get to the first half of level 4 if I felt like it. I want to look more into this but I still get quite uneasy once I get to a certain depth of the internet, even though I do know quite a bit about anonymity.

posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:34 PM
Sooo everyones freaking out saying its bad but how is it bad.
Like against the law or all virused up? I'll take a look into it but not too deep. Just wanna test the waters.

posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:45 PM
Well I was in hopes TOR might be the answer for me but now I see it isn't - meaning - if TOR is going to be monitoring what I do, to sorrupt it (possibly) what difference is there between them and the 'devil' I'm already dealing with? I might as well stick with the one I know, lol.

So, I'll find some other service to help because I'm bloody sick and tired of classic material from the States being BLOCKED because I'm in Italy.

Who in the hell does Amazon think they are to BLOCK Jane Austin? That's just ludicrous. Absolutely ludicrous.


posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:54 PM
If you've ever played Shadowrun, you'll know that it's not a very good idea to go into something like this blindly. Even then, unless you're extra, extra careful, you may stumble into something you really, really don't want to be in.

Which is why I'll be staying away from TOR and anything related to it. I'm quite happy floating on the surface with my water wings. It's much safer up here.

posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 12:11 AM

Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
Which is why I'll be staying away from TOR and anything related to it. I'm quite happy floating on the surface with my water wings. It's much safer up here.

Umm, that doesn't make any sense. TOR is a method of anonymity, but there is a protocol that only works with a TOR client, that contains a .onion address. Like .com addresses are on the WWW, .onion addresses work only with TOR.

So unless you want to go to the dark web, you wont. As in, you want to go to then by all means do it as normal. Using a TOR network will not make any difference to your every day browsing.

Your fear is entirely unwarranted. I mean, do you go to google, and search for bad things? Then why would you using TOR?

It's just a series of PC's taking your traffic to and from you and the server you want to access. The only one who can look at ANY of the info you request, is the exit node. But that is why you don't log into any servers, your information is accessible to that one person. Everyone in between you/your proxy and the exit node is encrypted.

So, you can stay away from the bogey man if you don't understand it, or you can use it as a tool that it is. But if your fear is that you'll somehow accidentally end up on a scumbag porn site with illegal content, then unless you actively seek it, your fear is unfounded... it's no different to the normal internet...

posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 12:29 AM
reply to post by windus

Well if they start making Tor alot faster I will start using it but until then I'll just wait till they censor the internet and they will too its just a matter of time.

posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 12:35 AM
There have been several documented attacks that can make it possible to discover the originating IP address. I suggest anybody actively using Tor or considering using it read up on the Bad Apple Attack against it which over 23 days uncovered the IP addresses of some 10,000 Tor users. Just remember folks, there are no absolutes where privacy and security meet computers, surf at your own risk.

posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 12:35 AM

Originally posted by webpirate
reply to post by kai22

Using Tor to avoid SOPA wouldn't have worked in the first place. That was the first thing I thought of when I first heard about SOPA and PIPA...but both had language that made it illegal for any site to "help" or assist people from accessing those sites which were banned by the laws. It basically would have made Tor illegal for the public to use.

It also could well have been interpreted that just using something like Google to find a file sharing site...even if it wasn't blocked yet would have been illegal. So Google could well have been in violation of the laws for helping people access those sites.

SOPA and PIPA would have basically shut the Tor network down for all intents and purposes.

Some false information here, I think.

Technically, I doubt that SOPA/PIPA would have made Tor illegal, or that it would have been able to stop Tor access/functionality either way.

These bills would have allowed blacklisting comparable (identical effectively?) to server-side shutdowns for sites accused of violations. If all Internet service/hosting providers are honoring the blacklists (or whatever the forced technical solution), no one's going to be accessing them, regardless of Tor/etc. Even if people could somehow still hit the server, no one's going to update/maintain a site that most can't access anymore.
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posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 12:49 AM
On Tor

to get to the darknet and start looking around.

The Hidden Wiki: kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion...

Books about all sorta subversive topics: am4wuhz3zifexz5u.onion...

The real Wikileaks that gets info before the normal web gets it: suw74isz7wqzpmgu.onion...

remember US Wikileaks partner to Assange, Jacob Appelbaum is one of the developers for Tor and all wikileaks employees use Tor thanks to Appelbaum's coding to keep everyone hidden.

Rolling Stone article on Appelbaum and his Tor project:

posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 01:43 AM
Has anyone noticed this? Your IP address "anyhow" changes over a period of time without having to use any proxies.

Just switch off you modem and dont use it for few months.

For example, lets say your actual location is "New Zealand", and you got registered in ATS. So now your actual IP address got stored in ATS database because you did not use any proxies, TOR(or whatever).

And then for some reason you did not use your modem for few months. Now if someone tried to track your location using the IP that was stored in the database, the IP address will point somewhere in japan.

You can even check this in your email. Go to your inbox and check your friend's email that was sent to you 4 years back. View the content in the "header" section of your friend's email. You will find his/her IP address. Try to trace the ip address. You will end up in some other location.

posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 01:49 AM
reply to post by flyingdonkey

While this might seem accurate it unfortunately is not; your ISP hands out IP addresses using a DHCP server, this server can and often is configured to remember who had what address at any given time, so its just a matter of pulling the log files and searching out who had IP address or whatever it happens to be.

posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 02:46 AM
I've used Tor, I installed it myself, checked with mp5, used a proxy, yada yada yada. It really isn't difficult to learn if you're serious about it. Just don't go into the dungeon until you level up your knowledge a few times. Then as you explore the dungeon, make sure to level up your knowledge again before going deeper. If you're serious, start at the Tor website and read everything you can get your hands on until you feel that you have a grasp on it.

I'm no expert, but these guys afraid to access Al-Jazeera and RT without using anonymity software need to hit the bong and chill out. They're so afraid for you that they refuse to give you any info. Reminds of abstinence education, and we all know how well that works...

Seek and ye shall find. But make sure to gear up and mentally prepare yourself for a stupid mistake that may leave you looking at something you do not want to see. There are real monsters in this world and the deepnet is where they talk to one another.

My advise if you want to be super careful is to dedicate a system to this. You can find someone to build you a good gaming system for $400 easy. It is worth the investment for the treasure trove of information available to those willing to adventure. But if you find out that the dark places are not for you, you can wipe it and you still have a new gaming system.

If you're not the type to follow the path in the woods to see where it leads - even when it goes onto someone's property, then stay away. But if you're like me, then you won't be able to resist.

posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 02:57 AM
use tor
go to hidden wiki
and be carefull what you click
remember hiddenwiki is the kindergarden of the deepweb
everything you need to go deeper is on hiddenwiki if you know what your looking for

and thanks staff for the warnings

3warnings on 1 post wow overkill much lol ah well life is such
also i would like to apologise to anybody i may have offended with my profane words on previous posts
but claiming i know squat about deepweb or the internet offends me

anyway once again apologys and if you do crawl the deep web
who knows if you hit the right places you might end up getting an invite to places where information is openly avaliable

depends on how deep you dig
happy browsing and stay safe

edit on 22-1-2012 by UkRandom because: Added my Apology for my profane outburst

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