"Racism" is 100% natural, and is not evil. Homogenization is.

Originally posted by antonia
European countries allow immigration because the local populations have low birth rates and more workers are required. It's no conspiracy to kill the white man, it's about money.

Indeed. The banking system and the creation of money it entails is built on growth. If there is no growth, the current banking system collapses.

Originally posted by casenately
Homogenization has never proved to be an answer to governance or organization since it eventually causes problems for one group by not addressing the specific needs of that group. The only way for a global community to actually live without chaos is for each group to address its own needs through the knowledge base it has developed over time by trial and error.

A grand scope is only necessary when establishing a form of exchange and interconnection. If that is imposed for the sake of having that connection, it usually has the opposite effect since it threatens the individual knowledge base for each group and by doing so, their survivability

"What I am saying is wrong, is we being told it's not OK to desire our individual cultural identities to persist into the future. What I am saying is wrong, is the active agenda to push for general homogenization among the Western cultures, and the demonization of naturally resisting. What I am saying is wrong, is to call someone a "racist" for wanting to preserve humanities diversity and protect the wonderful heritages of our peoples ancestors and not being satisfied relegating those heritages into the history books."

Agreed. It is wrong for a dominant community to define how smaller communities can live without the consideration of how that group formed and continually renews itself over time in the presence of adversity. If we as the dominant species eradicated another for its inability to adapt to our environment the way we have, we may in effect permanently damage our own environment by disturbing the balance already established. I mean for example, if we deem lions to be "savage" and proceed to domesticate them to better fit our own idea of what they should be, we would eventually have an over population of their food supply. That would lead to catastrophic consequences for the ecosystem we share with them.

Equally if we as a culture change another to better fit our idea of them, we may permanently effect our own by eliminating a source of innovation and thought processes we would never have come across since we would not answer problems in the same manner their experiences taught them to. Imagine if a certain disease was curable in south American peoples before Europeans arrived and "domesticated" the "savages" by erasing their cultural knowledge in favor of the European one. We would have loss a solution to a problem we could not foresee in our cultures future and may actually encounter.

"Live and let live. Give others the freedom to live as you would want to have yourself, and embrace liberty for all. Celebrate and love your heritage, white, black, yellow, or red, Christian or Pagan, Viking or Egyptian or Scot or Moor or Jew, and don't let anyone ever tell you you are "racist" for doing so."

AMEN. YES SIR. ABSO-F-ing-LUTELY. One world, one love, many people, many voices.
A choir is only as beautiful as the unity of the many voices that sing a common song.

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I'm a little confused. Are you agreeing with Cauticus, then contradicting his theories?

Originally posted by kimish
How did the whites get the stolen property? Maybe they wouldn't have gotten the stolen property if others wouldn't have stolen it first?

The Turks (Ottomans) used to force Southern Europe (Greece and the Balkans) to turn over white people as tribute to become slaves.

Does that mean that the Turks acquired good title to the white slaves?

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by antonia
European countries allow immigration because the local populations have low birth rates and more workers are required. It's no conspiracy to kill the white man, it's about money.

Indeed. The banking system and the creation of money it entails is built on growth. If there is no growth, the current banking system collapses.

And now that we are hitting Peak Oil all that population should start dropping since we will be unable to support it. Deflation is in our future it seems. People will get their much vaunted" western culture" back. Although in truth Western Culture (in particular American Culture) owes it's exsistance to the cultures of the other civilizations before it. Evolution is the name of the game.

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Thank you for your addition to the thread. I found it very constructive.

There are plenty of poor whites in the USA.

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And this has to do with a general predispotion towards treating whites better in america how...? What you said is a fact for sure, and i see what you're getting at, but here's why I ain't buying the "everyone is treated fairly" card. Here's just one of the many examples I've seen over the course of my lifetime. I have a white friend who was caught by the cops a few months back with three ounces of the wacky tabacky and a scale in his car. There's two counts right there. Possession with intent to sell (since he had a scale). Now I went to his court date and was relieved to see the judge give my friend a slap on the wrist (it was his first offense after all). And that's all well and good but directly after the judge had decided his punishment a black dude-about the same age as me-was called to the stand for pretty much the same offense except he had a smaller amount of weed and he wasn't in possession of a scale. He recieved 5 months in jail. So yeah, there are plenty of poor whites, but it's better off than being poor and black. I don't care what anyone says, blacks are not treated the same as whites in america. Equality is a code word for "shut the f*ck up and deal with it." I have many other recollections like that if you would like me to share.

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I do not disagree or agree entirely. I am relating to his ideas and talking back to him as best I can relate. I can not entirely agree or disagree...I do not think that would even be in the spirit of what he is saying, he doesn't say I should or shouldn't for that manner but that it is beautiful to have a different point of view. I am not BORG

Originally posted by antonia
And now that we are hitting Peak Oil all that population should start dropping since we will be unable to support it. Deflation is in our future it seems.

But deflation is currently impossible.

For all of the annual interest paid out on government bond borrowing, that amount of additional money supply has to be created or the system collapses.

Since we went off of the gold standard, perpetual growth is a necessity or the system collapses.

Originally posted by Starchild23

I'm a little confused. Are you agreeing with Cauticus, then contradicting his theories?

Perhaps he just has a different point of view. Perfectly acceptable to me. Its how new ideas are created and exchanged, and a great way to learn.

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus

Originally posted by Starchild23

I'm a little confused. Are you agreeing with Cauticus, then contradicting his theories?

Perhaps he just has a different point of view. Perfectly acceptable to me. Its how new ideas are created and exchanged, and a great way to learn.

I am still puzzled by how you can support an idea that has only been known to be destructive? We had a WAR fought over it...for no other reason than to free humans of a different color!

Originally posted by casenately
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I do not disagree or agree entirely. I am relating to his ideas and talking back to him as best I can relate. I can not entirely agree or disagree...I do not think that would even be in the spirit of what he is saying, he doesn't say I should or shouldn't for that manner but that it is beautiful to have a different point of view. I am not BORG

What's with the faces?

well....ahem.....we didn't free anyone....IMO...sorry...bombs don't free people...political and ideological concepts free people....keys free people from chains.....bombs kill people in chains as well as people holding them.....sorry bro....there is a little borg in you...lol...JK....I don't think so no...

Originally posted by kaiode1
And this has to do with a general predispotion towards treating whites better in america how...? What you said is a fact for sure, and i see what you're getting at, but here's why I ain't buying the "everyone is treated fairly" card.

I don't believe everyone is treated failry either.

In the UK for instance, refugees are given cheap government housing immediately as a matter of law while British people have to wait on a list for years.

Go figure.

Originally posted by Starchild23

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus

Originally posted by Starchild23

I'm a little confused. Are you agreeing with Cauticus, then contradicting his theories?

Perhaps he just has a different point of view. Perfectly acceptable to me. Its how new ideas are created and exchanged, and a great way to learn.

I am still puzzled by how you can support an idea that has only been known to be destructive? We had a WAR fought over it...for no other reason than to free humans of a different color!

You mean the civil war, I guess? There was a LOT more to the civil war than freeing slaves. A LOT more to it.

I am not 100% up to date on all of it, but as I recall, ending slavery was the PR reason for the war, but I believe the true reason was to prevent secession by the lower states. (If anyone knowledgeable could comment, it would be appreciated. Id like to find out more about that personally as well.)

But there was sure more than one reason.

I understand where you are coming from, but, I do not think it's right to say racism is natural.

Preference for your own? Sure, that can be natural, and I think that's where you were hitting at.

But, racism, to me anyways, is when you attack/harass/murder someone because of their race. You prevent that Black person from shopping in your store just because of a stereotype, no matter how well that Black person is dressed and/or how well they are carrying themselves. Or, harass a White woman just because she has intermarried with a someone of an other race. To me, that's not self-preservation, that's just pure ignorance and evil. That is what racism is all about.

Also, isn't the word homogenization used in reference to places that are not racially/culturally mixed? (i.e.; Japan)

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by antonia
And now that we are hitting Peak Oil all that population should start dropping since we will be unable to support it. Deflation is in our future it seems.

But delflation is currently impossible.

For all of the annual interest paid out on government bond borrowing, that amount of additional money supply has to be created or the system collapses.

Since we went off of the gold standard, perpetual growth is a necessity or the system collapses.

Money is simply an abstraction. It has no real meaning without natural resources. Gold was simply one resource used to back money and was thus capped by the amount of gold one could get. The main backer of money now is actually oil, without oil our economies would not function. As this natural resource will be harder and more expensive to obtain in the future the money supply will naturally contract, first through hyperinflation causing the money to be worthless and then to an eventual new currency. Mike Ruppert can explain this better then I can:
www.youtube.com...
It's worth the trouble if you have the time.

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Your avatar reminds me of Jerry Lewis!

Originally posted by casenately
well....ahem.....we didn't free anyone....IMO...sorry...bombs don't free people...political and ideological concepts free people....keys free people from chains.....bombs kill people in chains as well as people holding them.....sorry bro....there is a little borg in you...lol...JK....I don't think so no...

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BULLSH*T. The black people are now free. Either get your facts straight or go do some research.

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I don't believe everyone is treated failry either.

In the UK for instance, refugees are given cheap government housing immediately as a matter of law while British people have to wait on a list for years.

Do they hoard all of the refugees in one area? That's an interesting pattern I've come to recognize whenever the poor and downtrodden are given something for "cheap" or for "free."

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ummm...the civil rights movement has not ended yet.....don´t know if you know any people of color but slavery with all its tenants didn't end the day the civil war did. we still had racism in the....well today even .It just changed