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Jobless Claims Back Up to 400,000 - Time to blame Bush again?

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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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It looks like more bad news for the Obama administration.

- Jobless Claims Way Up -

Somebody call Hillary. We got more trouble.

Should we blame Bush again?



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Should we blame Bush again?


why not hes still in office, he's just had a heck load of cosmetic surgery and changed his name.

and you wondered why they are being funny about the birth certificate



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Lol, of course they are up. All those supposed new workers in sept - dec where all SEASONAL employees. Im betting the numbers are padded here, like usual, too, because almost all seasonal positions are terminated after new years. The select few get permanent positions, but 90% or more are just dropped, as per the agreement of seasonal employance, but the numbers of course dont want to show that... that would be to much truth

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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
Lol, of course they are up. All those supposed new workers in sept - dec where all SEASONAL employees. Im betting the numbers are padded here, like usual, too, because almost all seasonal positions are terminated after new years. The select few get permanent positions, but 90% or more are just dropped, as per the agreement of seasonal employance, but the numbers of course dont want to show that... that would be to much truth

edit on 1/12/2012 by CaticusMaximus because: (no reason given)



OMG! Somebody speed dial Bill & Hillary Clinton!

Blaming Bush won't work. The American people want solutions NOT excuses.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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Why do people always blame a President for the unemployment rate? What the hell did any President have to do with employment? A business makes a decision to hire or not hire. A business makes the decision to lay off or not lay off. They do not call the President to see what the recommendation is.

Funny how everyone yells for "less government" but demands to know FROM THE PRESIDENT where the jobs are. Stupid, really.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by monkofmimir

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Should we blame Bush again?

why not hes still in office, he's just had a heck load of cosmetic surgery and changed his name.

And Romney isn't much different. Romney - meet the white Obama

I never thought I'd miss Bill Clinton, but after what we've had to deal with for the past 12 years (and what we are facing in 2012 - Obama or Romney) I'm starting to look back on the Clinton years with almost a homesickness ....

(for Bill ?? really?? Someone cyberslap me!!
)



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Probably because his job is to pass/veto bills that kill/grow jobs.
His job is also to oversee the budget and any necessary cuts.
When you push for legislation that impacts the private sector, you are directly responsible for that fallout.
Universal healthcare is one. There are others, but that one is the biggie. Most companies health care costs have tripled since that little piece of trash was shoved down our throats. I know, I work for a health insurance broker!

When you triple the costs of employee benefits, the money has to come from somewhere. And either you get rid of people, or you cut their benefits. Companies will cut the workforce first.
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by monkofmimir

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Should we blame Bush again?

why not hes still in office, he's just had a heck load of cosmetic surgery and changed his name.

And Romney isn't much different. Romney - meet the white Obama

I never thought I'd miss Bill Clinton, but after what we've had to deal with for the past 12 years (and what we are facing in 2012 - Obama or Romney) I'm starting to look back on the Clinton years with almost a homesickness ....

(for Bill ?? really?? Someone cyberslap me!!
)


I hear ya!

[WHACK!]

Better?



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy
Why do people always blame a President for the unemployment rate? What the hell did any President have to do with employment? A business makes a decision to hire or not hire. A business makes the decision to lay off or not lay off. They do not call the President to see what the recommendation is.

Funny how everyone yells for "less government" but demands to know FROM THE PRESIDENT where the jobs are. Stupid, really.


Obama has socialists sitting around dreaming up bizarre regulations to attack capitalism.
That has a way of slowing growth and keeping the unemployment rate high.

Introducing ObamaCare has thrown - uncertainty - into our economy.
Small and large companies can't plan for the future and grow their companies with
ObamaCare over their heads.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy
Why do people always blame a President for the unemployment rate? What the hell did any President have to do with employment? A business makes a decision to hire or not hire. A business makes the decision to lay off or not lay off. They do not call the President to see what the recommendation is.

Funny how everyone yells for "less government" but demands to know FROM THE PRESIDENT where the jobs are. Stupid, really.


I guess you forgot (ignored) stories of business owners refusing to hire until Obama is removed from office.

Presidents agendas most certainly factor in hiring decisions for many small businesses.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by usernameconspiracy
 


Probably because his job is to pass/veto bills that kill/grow jobs.
His job is also to oversee the budget and any necessary cuts.
When you push for legislation that impacts the private sector, you are directly responsible for that fallout.
Universal healthcare is one. There are others, but that one is the biggie. Most companies health care costs have tripled since that little piece of trash was shoved down our throats. I know, I work for a health insurance broker!

When you triple the costs of employee benefits, the money has to come from somewhere. And either you get rid of people, or you cut their benefits. Companies will cut the workforce first.
edit on 1/12/2012 by haarvik because: (no reason given)


When the SCOTUS throws out ObamaCare we will need to replace it with a solution
of our own.

BTW, Michelle Obama isn't helping her husband.
Sarah Palin blasted her weak explanation for the state of the USA.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Nah, I blame you...haha just kidding.
I don't think anybody is blaming the Presidents past or present they don't make the jobs they just make the laws that corporations exploit to @%@#& the common man.
Actually technically it was Clinton that SCREWED us :

The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is signed into law by President Bill Clinton. Clinton said he hoped the agreement would encourage other nations to work toward a broader world-trade pact.

NAFTA
Filthy corporate SHILL!!!



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Clinton gave us 4 years of budget SURPLUSES! Remember?

Of course, he got some help from Newt and the invention of the World Wide Web.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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WOW!
Read between the lines.
Michelle Obama just called the American people stupid!



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by ldyserenity
 


Clinton gave us 4 years of budget SURPLUSES! Remember?

Of course, he got some help from Newt and the invention of the World Wide Web.

This pertains to NAFTA specifically.and there also is the fact that we knew the repercussions that NAFTA would create wouldn't be felt for many years and now we are seeing that come to fruition, not that Reagan didn't pass laws that screwed us, too...actually every president in the last forty years has not helped the situation, but that's besides the point, the lobbyests are really where the blame should lie and their corporate puppet masters, but let's go ahead and blame President XYZ...etc.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


WOW!
Read between the lines.
Michelle Obama just called the American people stupid!


Yes, they are elitists. Clearly, Michelle Obama is surrounded by a liberal reality distortion field.

To be fair, they are on both sides.

Gov. Sarah Palin called Charles Krauthammer a hoity-toity, cocktail swilling, inside the
beltway elitist!



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Should we blame Bush again?


And the Republican party in general, yes.

The damage done to this country economically and politically during the Bush regime is of such magnitude that it can't be undone in a short period of time. Especially with the rest of the GOP doing everything they can to "make Obama a one-term President" and to hell with the country in the meantime.

Obama has not been as effective as he should have been, or could have been, but yes, the fundamental problem is due to the policies implemented during the Bush regime.

Painful to hear, but true.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by ldyserenity

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by ldyserenity
 


Clinton gave us 4 years of budget SURPLUSES! Remember?

Of course, he got some help from Newt and the invention of the World Wide Web.

This pertains to NAFTA specifically.and there also is the fact that we knew the repercussions that NAFTA would create wouldn't be felt for many years and now we are seeing that come to fruition, not that Reagan didn't pass laws that screwed us, too...actually every president in the last forty years has not helped the situation, but that's besides the point, the lobbyests are really where the blame should lie and their corporate puppet masters, but let's go ahead and blame President XYZ...etc.


The right to lobby is in the US Constitution. K Street is there to stay.

We can however put someone in the White House who will reduce the size of the
US government. I also want to see those Green Bars/Surpluses again.
This $15 Trillion National Debt needs to go down not up.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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because he has the power to create jobs this has not changed , he needs to do what FDR did... labor force! plenty of work that needs doing form bridge and road repair /rebuild to power line, the problem is the money to where to get that, easy stop spending on toys and war, cut your Pres and Congressional pay till we are back on top, there are lost of things the Pres could do if he would just do them. quite pleasing the 1% and listen too the 99% that need work, income, and a roof over their head, oh one last thing the $7.25 hour has to go make it 9.00$ per hour



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Open_Minded Skeptic

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Should we blame Bush again?


And the Republican party in general, yes.

The damage done to this country economically and politically during the Bush regime is of such magnitude that it can't be undone in a short period of time. Especially with the rest of the GOP doing everything they can to "make Obama a one-term President" and to hell with the country in the meantime.

Obama has not been as effective as he should have been, or could have been, but yes, the fundamental problem is due to the policies implemented during the Bush regime.

Painful to hear, but true.



Sorry but blaming won't work. Been there - Done that
The American people want solutions not excuses. Does Obama have any???

I think he prefers to hang out on the golf course and call Americans lazy.







 
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