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reply posted on 12-9-2004 @ 08:25 AM by LadyV
Below is a copy of something I posted in another thread, but fits here too, I think....I'm too lazy to type it all out again...


Yes, I do feel part of the problem lies with the parents! Junk food full of chemicals, convenience foods full of chemicals.....my youngest grandson was a mess! He showed all signs of hyper activity, ADHD....it was awful to have to try and be with him for any length of time the little fellow was like a little demon...one day we went to my sisters, we all met there to visit and horse back ride (she has a Walker farm over in N. Kentucky) my sister had made a beautiful Red Velvet Cake......after we came back home, the next morning my Oldest son called me and told me that they had to take my youngest grandson to the hospital in the middle of the night, he was swollen, jerking and twitching....come to find out, he has a sensitivity to "red" dye. A Red Velvet Cake is made with about a cup of red food coloring to get it'd rich red color. He was immediately removed from "all" dye......no small task sense it's even in medications! It's in everything! Cereal, chips, drinks, everything.....he is now like a totally different child, calm, good attention span. I am so glad my Son refused to put him on drugs as the doctors wanted!

www.newmediaexplorer.org...

teachers.net...

www.incrediblehorizons.com...

www.rense.com...


EDITED to add that this does not fit all caases of course.....there are children out there that have true ADHA and need help, but it's worth checking out!



[edit on 9/12/2004 by LadyV]


reply posted on 12-9-2004 @ 11:54 AM by netbound
ADHDsux4me,

What is the Bi-Polar association

I’ll try to answer that in my case.

In my earlier post I suggested you give some thought to what Grady had mentioned/suggested in his post. I still think it’s a good idea. Not so much to do with whether or not you’re bipolar, but rather that it doesn’t hurt to get other points of view. Especially when it comes to mental/psychological evaluations, the conclusions reached can often be quite subjective. Whatever the diagnosis, you need to feel comfortable with it in that it’s a correct one.

When a physician/psych diagnoses a patient it immediately places them in a nice, neat pigeon hole. Some people tend to lend themselves easily to suggestion, and regardless of whether or not the diagnosis is correct, the patient will assume the roll anyway. With a lot of folks, if their doctor told them they’re a duck, it wouldn’t be long before they’d start quacking. I’m not suggesting that you’re such a person. [img]
www.abovetopsecret.com...[/img] I’m only saying that unless you’re comfortable in that skin, get another skin. Or at least feel confident that it's the one you belong in, because it will become part of your identity and will affect the way you view yourself and the way others view you.

When I went into the bipolar dissertation, it was only because there were certain things you stated that reminded me a lot of my ex-wife, who is bipolar. Statements I thought might be compatible with some level of mania, such as:

”I have never fit in well with standard society.

In the face of tedium, regardless of my very determined attempts to focus on the task at hand, my mind would wander. Many times I would only realize this after somone else had pointed this out to me, by ways of either yelling, or getting my attention brought to it.

I am a creative writer, poet, have classical singing skills, small time actor, and occasional stand up comedian. My mind is very sharp, I do not miss much.

On the Downside on the topic of Jobs, I have lost, or quit every job I have ever had since I started working 8 years ago. Either I would be fired for my lack of focus, or I would be so bored with the Job I would quit.

My mind functions very similar to an ever changing TV on Channel surf. It shifts quickly …

I still can't focus on menial repetitive structured tasks, and I still can't hold down a job.

I am doomed to be a societal loser.”


There are different types of bipolar disorder. Not all varieties involve frequent and radical shifts in mental state.

My post was made before reading your later posts, however. I’m certainly not qualified to make a diagnosis, and would not attempt to do so. The reason for mentioning my ex-wife’s experience with bipolar disorder was just in case you were able to relate with any of it. I don’t think you did, though, and so that’s a good thing. Bipolar disorder is a rollercoaster you wouldn’t want on.

Now, let's tackle this from another angle. About your obsessive/compulsive/schizoid/psychosis, here’s what you need to do … [img] www.abovetopsecret.com...[/img]


reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 11:17 AM by Freenrgy2
What a madhouse!

I believe that you and I have a lot in common OP. Although, I am not ready to call myself an Indigio person. But, I do have trouble focusing and my mind goes in a thousand different directions all the time. I sing, play trumpet, act and do comedy as well. Many people around me like to label me ADD, but I will not test as I do not believe in the subjectiveness of the diagnosis. That and ADD and ADHD is NOT a disease, only a diagnosis.

I am definitely 100% against mandatory psychological testing for children. There are far too many children on psychotropic meds. So many are now diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder or bi-polar manic depressiveness, etc.. This is insane. How much money do these drug companies want to make off an entire generation.

I can bet that if I were to test, that I would probably be ADD or ADHD. But, I can hold a job (no offense to you), and I am not in a constant state of depression. My eyes have been describes as being "mysterious" and "full of wisdom" on more than one occasion. I do feel that I have a purpose and, in fact, was just thinking how I can help to change the world this morning. I feel like I am on a mission, but don't know exactly what that mission is.

My daughter was labeled ADHD, but I told her that medication was her choice. I would not force it on her. It does MORE harm than good in my opinion. And I refuse to put these substances in my daughter's body because someone can check off 6 out of 9 items on a simple questionaire.

You may feel free to U2U me if you want. It's nice to find someone of like mind.


reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 11:43 AM by ADHDsux4me
Wow,

The Paradigm conspiracy, certainly fits something I have thought for some time.

In fact as I went to an acting course, my teacher had very similar thoughts. The current establishment seeks to squelch our individuality, so that we may have a smoother running system of conformity, for a more "productive" society as it stands now.

In fact, I am beginning to see that Society seeks us to conform into more or less a hive mind. Limiting self, while admonishing and rewarding the group. If you have interests outside the conformity, you are intrinsically broken and must be "made" to fit back into the structure with medication.

I suppose this also suggests indiviual thinking, should be suppressed becuase individuality is anarchy. Conformity reinforces structure. Without this structure, our wondefull society would have never come to be.

I call back to ancient Greece, anf the Reniassance. Men and Women were allowed more freedom for self discovery, and following routes which go beyond the status quo in society. For instance, the great philosophers of Anceint Greece helped establish many exestential ideas, and science which our current societies hold dear. Yet, we have adhered to them and not allowed change or deviations from it now, as it would upset the structure. Without those minds of Anciet Greece, we would have never come to be. Democracy, Republics, Match, Astronomy, Science, Medicine.

The very same goes for the Renaissance, Capoernicus, Isaac Newton, Columbus. If these people didn't question, and then establish that their ideas are true, we would still be very far behind. No gravity as a scientific force, the world is in fact flat. In the renaissance these people were labelled as heretics, becuase they thought outside The Church, "God's" laws, and society.

I think the Governments, and Religions of this world, are still fearfull of Revelutionary thinking. They have become comfortable with yoking the masses to pull their weight, and at the same time be controlled by that yoke. If we out think their (Societies) usefullness, they will cease to be the ones in power. No more Newton, No more Columbus, No More Plato, No More Aristotle, the absolute shock of this is setting in...

No more new ideas, unless they conform to the way it is established now...

Damn,

-ADHDsux4me
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