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reply posted on 19-9-2004 @ 04:20 PM by aWoman
I sympathize with your being unable to find stability in your work.
I've had the same problem. I've worked at the following jobs since
the age of 15:

1. babysitter for various people (PA)

2. food concession worker (PA)

3. waitress at a restaurant (PA)

4. waitress at a truckstop (NV)

5. waitress/cashier in a donut shop (PA)

6. nurse's aide in a nursing home (PA)

7. nurse's aide in a terminal and/or recovery center (PA)

8. nurse's aide on surgical floor of a hospital where
sex change operations were performed (CO)

9. temp nurse's aide in hospitals (PA)

10. private duty live-in nurse's aide (twice) (WY)

11. potato planter on co-op farm (PA)

12. dietary aide in a nursing home (CO)

13. live-in amusement park game worker (PA)

14. hostess/cashier in (2) restaurants (PA)

15. maid at (3) motels (PA, MT, WY)

16. live-in housekeeper/cashier at a ski resort (NV)

17. childcare technician (cottage parent) at state school for
mentally handicapped children (WY)

18. ad salesperson for a newspaper (WY)

19. janitoress at a hospital (WY)

12. recruiter's assistant (Army, PA)

13. speechwriter/clerk typist (Army, CO)

14. air compressor & generator repairperson (Army, CO)

15. carpenter's helper on an all-woman crew framing houses (WY)

16. autobody repair helper (FL, NM)

17. plant nursery/greenhouse laborer (FL, LA)

18. sheetrock/ceiling texture/painting laborer (WY)

19. geophysical technician (seismograph laborer), truckdriver
and surveyor's assistant (all oil exploration) (WY, LA, UT,
NE, ID, MT)

20. roofer's helper (WY)

21. lumper (unloading semi-trucks) (FL)

22. window-washer in trailer parks (FL)

23. fundraising telemarketer (WY)

24. machinist's apprentice (FL)

25. engineering secretary (PA)

26. legal asssitant/legal secretary (9 law firms) (LA, AZ)

27. medical clerk typist (PA)

28. medical transcriptionist (AZ)

29. administrative assistant at a school (AZ)

30. licensed massage therapist (solo practice & at a spa) (LA)

31. landscaping laborer (LA)

32. wordprocessing clerk at a soil/air/water testing laboratory (WY)

33. harvester on grape, strawberry and tomato farms (PA)

34. temporary legal secretary (LA)

35. construction laborer (WY, FL)

36. secretary to educational consultant (AZ)

37. secretary at a probation/parole office (AZ)

38. my own mail-order handwriting analysis business (WY)

I would also like to try the following occupations:

beekeeping

harvesting serum from bees, wasps, etc. to sell to laboratories
for preparing antidotes

wildcrafting

worm farming

consulting

private investigation

mushroom farming

I speed-read numerous non-fiction books and perform internet
research for the sole purpose of self-education, and usually am
reading 3-5 books simultaneously.

I can be hyperfocused on tasks or things that interest me yet
am able to perform mundane tasks for hours on end as I find
it frees up my mind to think about other things.

I've moved numerous times in my life--over 100 at least.

There is a word that describes someone with a nomadic urge
that causes him to travel and change jobs frequently, but I
can't recall what it is.

Like you, I've never married and desire it, along with stability
above all things.

My son has ADD without hyperactivity and I believe his father
had it as well. I was never diagnosed with anything but
had dysgraphia (handwriting troubles) in the second grade,
was a free thinker as early as the first grade, bumped heads
with various teachers and other students because I stood up
for my principles, and was accused and punished various times
as a child for things I was not guilty of.

I was bored, bored, bored in school from early on, and the only
education I've enjoyed is college because it finally presented some
mental challenge and the profs were fairly intelligent.

One reason I don't remain in relationships with men long is because
I am very independent and many I believe dislike that about a woman.
I am also freedom-loving and avoid conflict and get bored often with
the lack of mental stimulation I've found in relationships.

well that's my 2 cents. don't feel alone!


reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 01:41 PM by RedBalloon
I tried ignoring this thread and keeping my mouth shut, but I just can't do it anymore. So many of you have no clue what ADD and ADHD is about. It is so much more than not keeping a job and feeling like you're "tuned to different channels" (crap, in my oppinion). It's not just being hyper. It's a complex set of symptoms that touch EVERY PART of your life for those who have been legitimately diagnosed. People love to say "ohh I can't concentrate in class - I must be ADHD!" and oh how that makes me angry.

Some issues I have:

1) ADD and ADHD is horribly overdiagnosed by careless family doctors and self diagnosis. Just being hyper or difficult does not ADD/ADHD make. People are so quick to medicate to control kids to serve themselves. However, there are times when the child can greatly benefit from medication, and it can be a life changing decision. It can save a family, a marraige, and a life.

2) Many things are often misdiagnosed as ADHD/ADD - primarily depression. Symptoms in children can be identical to ADD/ADHD

3) Ok so you can't concentrate sometimes. BIG F**king DEAL. Concentration is usually the least of the issues ADD/ADHD people suffer from. Impulse control, learning disabilities like dyslexia, sleep problems, extreme social dysfunction, few friends, being "obnoxious", self doubt, self hatred, suicidal feelings, feelings of worthlessness, criminal behavior (impulse control again), inability to keep friends, inability to manage money, weight, food, and life in general.

4) The idea that this is an alll negative thing makes me angry, too. ADD/ADHD peeps are usually exceptionally bright with above average intelligence, and when controlled ADD/ADHD individuals are capable of much more than the average person (my oppinion on the last one). Creativity is simply impulsivity gone right. ADD/ADHD people can handle chaos beautifully and thrive in high stress situations. I think ADHD people, who have that creativity combined with high intelligence, are the people who come up with many breakthroughs and advancements. ADD/ADHD folks can also become semi-obsessed with topics or hobbys and blow away their competition.

5) Foods and parenting can only do so much. I have yet to read conclusive studies on diet helping TRUE ADD/ADHD patients, but may help other disorders that mask as ADD/ADHD. If you're child is truly suffering, get them HELP and medications are not necessarily bad if they are warranted and correctly and appropriately perscribed. If you or your child feels stoned or wiped, its not the drug for you, or you're taking way too much. Parent's cause true ADD/ADHD? No way, and it's offensive to even suggest it. It is hereditary, and can cause parents to lose their minds, if anything and as a RESULT of ADD/ADHD not become as good a parent as they would have hoped.

6) This isn't any more common than it was 50 years ago, there is just research on it, there is a name for the symptoms, and people are grossly overdiagnosed with ADHD/ADD in huge numbers. People 50 years ago just went to jail. What do we know now that we didn't before? It's a frontal lobe condition. It can be assisted with the administration of amphetamines and like chemicals that speed up the fuction in the brain to allow ADD/ADHD individuals to have up-to-speed control. That's why stimulants work.

7) Those new drug ads are doing a huge disservice. The pitch of "do you ever feel like you can't tune into a channel?" as the tip off for ADD/ADHD is potentially dangerous when real problems like depression are overlooked. Go to a neurologist - not your family doctor. The drugs are becoming easier to perscribe, and if you're not truly ADD/ADHD you might as well go buy some speed to boost your performance.

Arrgh.. people make me crazy with this ADD/ADHD stuff. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Sign me: adhdROCKS4me


reply posted on 26-9-2004 @ 01:34 PM by RedBalloon
Originally posted by ADHDsux4me
But The downs are overwhelming, and the meds the amphetamines, made me paranoid and even more socially social malfunctioned.


Not all the meds are amphetamines these days. There are many many drugs out now used to treat ADHD, and one of them worked for me. The rest left me extremely rageful, depressed, able to be keenly interested in the carpet for a few hours, not able to finish sentences, etc. I tried them, and found the one that worked for me. Find a good Neurologist, and try them out. If it's been two weeks and a drug isn't making a huge improvement in your life, then move on and try another. Drugs out for ADHD these days include: Ritalin, Dexedrine, Concerta, Stratera, Adderall - many with extended release thatlast for 9 hours or more. Sometimes, antidepressants can have a positive effect such as Paxil, and Welbutrin. Medication should help you control your body, and not be a fix-all and a mind numbing silencer. The right medication should make you more you, only better, and help with controling the things you want to control but were not able to. You should not feel drugged or deadened, and if no drugs work, revisit the idea that you may not be ADHD and take a hard look at how you were diagnosed and by whom.

As for not finding success at work, perhaps you should focus on finding the right job for you. Active, chaotic jobs are great for ADHD peeps and can change it up often enough to keep your mind working and be challenging enough to be worthy of the intelligence many ADHD suffers have. Without finding the right fit, its frustrating and depressing and your soul will ache for feeling undervalued, unworthy, and incompetent.

Turn that obsession of random topics into something that matters - any one topic in particular you can't shake? Get into it.. poetry your thing? Keep it going. When you do have times when you're more in control, keep it handy to go back and fill in the details you mentioned missing.

It's a shame you have trouble seeing the positives. I feel like I always get the joke, I can do anything I want to do and absorb new knowledge and facts quicker than my peers on subjects that interest me, I believe I hear music more intensely as I can tell my brain to seperate out each instrument and hear them all seperately at once, I can watch tv while using the internet and reading a magazine and cleaning my room - any of the one alone would make me nuts and I'd have to do laps, but doing all 4 and letting my mind tune back and forth lets me do all of them at once, I can entertain myself anywhere as long as I have things to fiddle with, draw with, carve, and space to wiggle or walk around... creativity is a HUGE perk of impulsivity. The medication I take helps me control my weight by resisting cravings and overeating, checkbook, credit cards, allows me to physically stay in my seat in classes, and really understand the consequences of my actions. It saved my life, and allowed me to really appreciate the gift that I have been given genetically. Because of ADHD I feel I can handle any situation thrown at me, and adapt faster than anyone else around.

Thinking of yourself as disordered and unable is a great way to offer up excuses and dwell on whats wrong and not what's right - and I do KNOW what it's like, but try hard to see what good ADD/ADHD can add to your life and work towards those things.

I hate people knowing I am ADHD and I do what I can to avoid the topic even among friends. They tend to assume everything I do they don't like is a symptom, and it's not at all. If I don't want to sit and watch a movie at their house, it's ADHD!! Nah - your movie is just boring as hell and your couch sucks Or, people think ADHD is a load of crap and medications are just crutches and I have an "addiction" and they think poorly of me, when I feel quite the opposite about myself. I try and stay out of discussions like this one because I tend to tick off people who truly suffer and have not found their cool selves yet, and the ones that don't have ADD/ADHD never really get it anyway.


reply posted on 30-9-2004 @ 07:51 PM by RedBalloon
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Badge,
"I have a question. Why is add and ADHD suddenly everywhere? where did it come from?..."

It suddenly came from the pharmaceutical companies to make a sudden dollar =) But seriously isnt it suspicious that everyone relates to the symptoms? We have semi-unique personalities sure, but we are bound to be similar in ways, and it's those similarities ADD/ADHD is exploiting. If you really think about it ADD/ADHD isnt a problem per se, rather that it's incompatible with the current society. Just like anything that isnt the norm we label it and slap it on the wrist. Only in this case the ADD/ADHD victim isnt being punished he/she is being encouraged. How many ADD/ADHD people get their dosage increased ever so often? Now how many get it decreased? =) It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. My suggestion: drop the meds and meditate. My .02


It's overdiagnosed in huge numbers. Thats why it's everywhere. As for your self fulfilling prophecy idea - it's CRAP. Your suggestion leads to depression, low self esteem, criminal behavior, drastic weight changes in those that cannot control eating, and families that fall apart with individuals who are truly ADD/ADHD. Do some research and find out what it's truly about before you make such dangerous and infuriating comments like that. It's like telling someone schitzophrenic to meditate and forget the meds, or just pray your way whole from an amputation. As Ive said before, I'm not a victim, I'm grateful for it, and medications are life changing and life saving. (ADHDSux4me: dexedrine) I'm so amazingly angry at your comments above and truly insulted. BTW: I decrease my doasage every now and then and it's encouraged to take drug holidays where you go off the meds. Learn a little before you make such strikingly wrong and offensive generalizations.
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