NEWS: Bush Orders Sanctions on Venezuela

Venezuela Has been hit with a slap by the Bush Administration for its alleged role in the international trafficking of children and women for sexual exploitation. A decision which was announced in a White House memorandum to Secretary of State Colin Powell according to the following news article..




According to the report Venezuelans are trafficked internally for the domestic sex trade, and Venezuelan sex tourism that encourages underage prostitution.

There is much more in the full article... This is a shock to me, I was not aware that Venezuela had been implicated in such a distasteful scandal.

Other News Source:

Bush Orders Sanctions Against Venezuela

[edit on 10-9-2004 by UM_Gazz]

I wonder if this is connected to the Bush administration's dislike for Chavez?

In an interview Friday with the Associated Press, Secretary of State Colin Powell said it remains to be seen whether the U.S.-Venezuelan relationship can recover from deep strains during the past several years.

"We have concerns about some of the actions that President Chavez has taken over the years in pursuit of his vision of Bolivarian democracy," Powell said.

Here's a Venzuelan news report on the allegations of trafficking:
www.vheadline.com...

Want to take a BIG guess at what their big export is there? OIL!!!!!!

After the coup failed, we'll get him somehow!

Venezuela coup linked to Bush team

Specialists in the 'dirty wars' of the Eighties encouraged the plotters who tried to topple President Chavez

Ed Vulliamy in New York
Sunday April 21, 2002
The Observer

The failed coup in Venezuela was closely tied to senior officials in the US government, The Observer has established. They have long histories in the 'dirty wars' of the 1980s, and links to death squads working in Central America at that time.
Guardian Unlimited

And yes, it's about the oil. How soon before Hugo is accused of having WMDs?

Curme: lol, you took the words right out of my mouth.

You know, in lectures dating 2001-2002, I've heard many people say "apart from the absolute certainty this administration is going to Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and North Korea, you can be very sure they are planing to go to Venezuela too. Why you ask? THERES OIL THERE TOO."

One of the people making that statement was Mike Ruppert.

More related threads:

posted on 12-8-2004
The man from Venezuela said "NO!", now he's got to go!

posted on 23-7-2004
Venezuela May Suspend Oil Shipments to US

An interesting theory about this being all about oil.. after all everyone here loves a good conspiracy.

But if there is any truth to these allegations I think this was a good move. why not move to punish any nation that is involved in the trafficking of children and women for sexual exploitation?... are you saying that these allegations are created and false?

Just wondering.

Gazz

People I agree with all of you, I just had a conversation with my husband and we were just taking about the sanctions and Chavez, and at the end we came out with the same conclusions things did not came out the way the administration wanted with the elections and now it finding an excuse to get back at Chavez government.

Perhaps the US administration hopes that the sanctions will turn the people against Chavez.

Gazz.. .is the government involved? Odds are no. You know our nation has a big problem with sex crimes as well. People are constantly getting busted for child porn or making million dollar deals to avoid prosecution (koffJacksonkoff). Should the rest of the world boycott us because we have a very high murder rate and sex crime rate? Just because there are shady people doing this in a country doesn't mean the government is behind it.

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
An interesting theory about this being all about oil.. after all everyone here loves a good conspiracy.

But if there is any truth to these allegations I think this was a good move. why not move to punish any nation that is involved in the trafficking of children and women for sexual exploitation?... are you saying that these allegations are created and false?

Just wondering.

Gazz

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
An interesting theory about this being all about oil.. after all everyone here loves a good conspiracy.

But if there is any truth to these allegations I think this was a good move. why not move to punish any nation that is involved in the trafficking of children and women for sexual exploitation?... are you saying that these allegations are created and false?

Just wondering.

Gazz

I think our government picks and chooses what, and where, it wants to enforce it's laws. The sexual allegations may be true, but it's true in a lot of places. Just like there are a lot of dictators in the world. Our government takes the moral high-ground when they have something to gain from it. They are trying to isolate and suffocate Chavez, since he keeps getting re-elected!
It doesn't help when Jimmy Carter supervises elections and keeps everything fair, damn democracy!

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
An interesting theory about this being all about oil.. after all everyone here loves a good conspiracy.

But if there is any truth to these allegations I think this was a good move. why not move to punish any nation that is involved in the trafficking of children and women for sexual exploitation?... are you saying that these allegations are created and false?

Just wondering.

Gazz

I believe the allegations may portray the situation as worse than it really is .
I think that prostitution is viewed with a lax attitude in Venezuela but I'm not so sure that it's a haven for trafficking.

This may not be all about oil but may be about a dislike for Chavez, who has raised allegations about US involvement in a Coup that ousted him from power a couple of years ago.

A government review on US policy prior and after the Coup shows the US did provide funding for his opponents and the informed the US of their intensions to oust Chavez in a coup but the US response was that they would not support an undemocratic removal of Chavez.

Some of the individuals supported by NED grants also met with officials of the Department to explain what was going on in Venezuela. All were clearly and consistently told by Department officials that the U.S. would not support removal of President Ch�vez by unconstitutional means. One individual who had received training from a NED core grantee stated, by one Department official�s account: �I�m not asking for permission. I�m just telling you what will happen.�

oig.state.gov A Review of U.S. Policy Toward Venezuela November 2001 - April 2002 (4MB PDF)

After the Coup, the International Republican Institute did issue a press release in support of the people who conducted the Coup.
The undemocratic actions of the Interim government when they dissolved the National Assembly and Supreme Court were condemned though.

[edit on 11-9-2004 by AceOfBase]

Originally posted by Indy
You know our nation has a big problem with sex crimes as well. People are constantly getting busted for child porn or making million dollar deals to avoid prosecution. Should the rest of the world boycott us because we have a very high murder rate and sex crime rate? Just because there are shady people doing this in a country doesn't mean the government is behind it.

So because we have our own problems we should look the other way when a nation is alleged to have trafficked children and women for sexual exploitation?.. I think all the sanctions are meant to do is force the government into taking action on this matter.. it really adds up to nothing more than a public slap on the hand.

Unless you really believe this too is part of the religious right's agenda at work, and the evil Bush administration is out to take the oil from this south american country.

All we can do now is see how this case evolves.

I don't think anyone is advocating the international trafficking of women and children for sexual exploitation by pointing out that this allegation comming from the US government as a rational for imposing sanctions on Venezuela is designed to "get back at them" for not "behaving" according to US democratic standards.

This will hurt Chavez when he tries to deal with the IMF and World Bank. It is petty and sad commentary on US foreign policy. Especially on the eve of Chile's Sept 11 anniversary. When Latin Americans start killing Americans I hope no one has the temerity to ask "Oh...why do they hate us?"

And from where are the people using the sex tourism?
Riiight - from the USA, Canada and the European countries.

It's so ironic to blame them for being poor and try to earn every cent they can get. It's the rich people from our western countries who exploit them.

Shame on you Mr. Bush

I am going to tell you, one another country that prostitution and children exploitation has always been an issue is Brazil,



pangaea.org...

In Girls of the Night, Dimenstein denounces the trafficking of girls who are forced to work as prostitutes in the Amazon region, especially in mining towns. He explains the system of debt bondage under which the girls are kept. At first, the girls are told of job openings, usually in a restaurant or a luncheonette, in faraway regions. Upon their arrival, the girls are informed they already owe the money for transportation, and can only leave after paying it. In addition, the girls have to pay rent for their room, and often receive perfumes and clothes from the owner of the brothel.

You find this in many countries of south America.

perhaps the sudden interest of US on the (prostitution) and exploitation in Venezuela has to do with Yea hummmm you got oil again see Brazil does not export oil but Venezuela does.

I am sorry but I am the only one that see what (oil) and our present administration powerful foreign deals are? or I am losing my mind.

About 500,000 girls who have turned to prostitution to earn a living. Some of these girls are as young as nine years old. This is this year alone.




[edit on 11-9-2004 by marg6043]

This is going to ba a reply to this thread in some fronts...

First Mr Know it all George Bush, the most inteligent president ever has discovered that the extraction of OIL of Irak is going to be " a little more difficult than planed" and after searching for months he discovered anther country that has a lot of OIL Venezuela !!!

VENEZUELA !!!!!

MMm...lets see does it has a large army? NO
MMMm How about weapons of mass distruction ? NO (darn!)
MMmnnn How about a president that almost daily calls me "pendejo" (a$$ ole)..MM maybe
MMmmm How about prostitution and human right issues....BINGO HERE WE GO....

Now lets se the irony of the hole thing.

USA has less human rights than Venezuela (before retorting with idiotic remarks about this, please read the Patriot act constitutional amendment, check the status of the datainees on Guantanamo, and also the situation in Indian Reservations).
USa has a lot more pornography and human sexual explotation.
USA suffers as much missing persons as the world median.
What is quite similar is that the 2 goverments were not legally elected so there you go....

Yesterday I was the most Anti bush person (read clearly anti Bush not ANTI US Citizens) then I watched farenheit 9/11 and it dawned on me, YOU DESERVE YOUR PRESIDENT ..AND MAYBE YOU DESERVE IT ANOTHER 4 YEARS, just see where he is taking you, against Middle east, then against Europe, Now is Latin America, if this goes on....man I really think its going to be a global world minus the USA.

Just think of it...!

Yes the link of bush adminsitraiton and oil is present everywhere but some will never see it, once bush said that he did not read the news papers well he should start doing it and better yet he should start researching in the internet.

If I'm not mistaken, we had already discussed the possibility of the U.S. getting involved with Venezuela because of it's OIL.
Before this news had even come out. Wow.
I don't remember which thread but I'm sure someone and even I had mentioned that this might happen.

You are making it sound as if it is the fault of the country and it is NOT. It is the fault of some of the residents. Its as senseless as putting a boycott on us because of all the child abuse cases in this country. The government and the majority of the people have NOTHING to do with it. Sanctions are Bush's way of trying to wiggle in to the country to steal the oil. If this thing is such a problem why not offer assistance in capturing those running the illegal trade? Of course they don't want to do that. They want the oil.

Originally posted by UM_Gazz

Originally posted by Indy
You know our nation has a big problem with sex crimes as well. People are constantly getting busted for child porn or making million dollar deals to avoid prosecution. Should the rest of the world boycott us because we have a very high murder rate and sex crime rate? Just because there are shady people doing this in a country doesn't mean the government is behind it.

So because we have our own problems we should look the other way when a nation is alleged to have trafficked children and women for sexual exploitation?.. I think all the sanctions are meant to do is force the government into taking action on this matter.. it really adds up to nothing more than a public slap on the hand.

Unless you really believe this too is part of the religious right's agenda at work, and the evil Bush administration is out to take the oil from this south american country.

All we can do now is see how this case evolves.

What is so obvious about these events with Venezuela is that the bush has to find something so widespread over the countries in South America it could not eve disguised his contempt against Chavez, most of the countries in the are have child exploitation problems and Venezuela is not even the leader on that problem either Brazil is.

Whoa........I have to give to Mr. president he is arrogant and does not even care to hide either.

His policy is my way or the highway. @@: