Lilith and the Bohemian Grove?

I was doing some reading on wikipedia about Lilith (Hebrew: לילית‎; lilit, or lilith) is a character in Jewish mythology, found earliest in the Babylonian Talmud, who is generally thought to be related to a class of female demons Līlīṯu in Mesopotamian texts. In Jewish folklore, from the 8th–10th centuries Alphabet of Ben Sira onwards, Lilith becomes Adam's first wife, who was created at the same time and from the same earth as Adam. This contrasts with Eve, who was created from one of Adam's ribs. The legend was greatly developed during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadic midrashim, the Zohar and Jewish mysticism.

Basically from what I have read, Lilith was created from the same clay and dust that Adam was, God told her to become subservient to Adam but she refused and left the garden of Eden and mated with an angel named Samael. Different translations of the word Lilith are found to be that of "Great Owl" or "screech owl."

Now if anyone has ever seen "Dark secrets inside Bohemian Grove" you will see that all the worlds leaders and heads of state in many countries, and many ceo's of businesses and infrastructure meet every year in front of a 40 foot stone owl to perform mock human sacrifices, (or at least they say it's mock) Alex Jones calls this thing Moloch, but Moloch had the head of a bull. Lilith is the only "owl" ever talked about in the ancient texts, also in the bible.

My conspiracy theory is this,
Lets say that Lilith WAS Adam's first wife. She mates with an Angel and gives birth to the first nephalim and starts a whole race of nephalim and regular sized people outside the garden. This would explain how Kain was able to able to find a wife aftter he was banished from Adam and Eve and to become a wanderer as mentioned later on in the bible. This would also explain the discrepency at Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." But at Genesis 2:22 describes God's creation of Eve from Adam's rib.

People can say, "well all the Nephalim were destroyed by the flood and angels were banned by god from taking on the form of humans after the flood" but Moses himself seen the Nephalim at Numbers 13:32,33 32
And they kept on bringing forth to the sons of Israel a bad report of the land that they had spied out, saying: “The land, which we passed through to spy it out, is a land that eats up its inhabitants; and all the people whom we saw in the midst of it are men of extraordinary size. 33 And there we saw the Neph´i·lim, the sons of A´nak, who are from the Neph´i·lim; so that we became in our own eyes like grasshoppers, and the same way we became in their eyes.”

So what if this Lilith is who the Stone owl represents at Bohemian Grove? What if this is the "seed of satan" in which god put enmity between. What if the people in power in the world are by blood line related to Lilith and gather every year to worship her at Bohemian Grove?

Is there anyone out there that has read the entire Alphabet of Ben Sira and have any insight on this theory?

the name of lilith has been completely distorted by christianity's reign of earth in the last few thousand years.

try simply looking up the symbology of the owl. owls prey at night, in the dark, while no one sees them.

on the other hand, roosters are active in the day, in the light, and actually "wake people" up at dawn with their cries.

the NWO uses owl symbolism all the time in order to represent the "unseen forces" that work in the "darkness". their gentle "coo" keeps people "asleep".

non-NWO / "white hats" / "light bringers" will use symbolism of the rooster to represent the rooster's ability to awaken people when the "light" is rising.

btw, the myth of kain & able = battle of totalitarian agriculture (kain) and non-totalitarian agriculture/tribalistic hunting & gathering. tribalistic means are "able" to survive evolution .... while kain is the "cane" / crutch / sugar cane that killed his brother: the "able" tribal life.

reply to post by supermanning


I Had a Theory like that not to long ago, But I eventually realized i couldn't be exist. That Much Coming from the bible could be twisted to make us think other wise I'm not saying the bible is anything bad. I'm Just Saying we Couldn't recollect well any true facts from the bible. Because (1) The bible has been Changed a lot to give prosperity to those in power i'm not saying there doing it now, But In the past they have changed the bible a lot to feed the needs of a "pope" or "king". But Yes Your theory Couldn't Not Of Comprehended from some idea the Modern age has made not believe in things that Seem "mystical". But I wouldn't get the Bases of a theory from the bible . I would recommend The Book Enoch, and other banned ancient texts that were never even look at by "popes" and "kings" I guess fearing its True Knowledge of the ancient past they have alot of Knowledge to this Day Wonder why no one is reading this haha well I hope my Opinion helped some

reply to post by scorpine


I know the bible has been changed. The biggest overhaul of the bible happened under Constantine of Rome. He made his scholars put together a book of ancient texts that excluded the book of enoch, apocrypha, alphabet of ben sira and etc. He also took Jesus birthday and combined it with a pagan holiday to make christmas and a host of other holidays were done in the same fashion. The book of enoch could very well be the oldest writing to date if it was actually written by Enoch, Enoch was the son of Seth, Seth was the 3rd son of Adam.

Originally posted by metalshredmetal
the name of lilith has been completely distorted by christianity's reign of earth in the last few thousand years.

try simply looking up the symbology of the owl. owls prey at night, in the dark, while no one sees them.

on the other hand, roosters are active in the day, in the light, and actually "wake people" up at dawn with their cries.

the NWO uses owl symbolism all the time in order to represent the "unseen forces" that work in the "darkness". their gentle "coo" keeps people "asleep".

non-NWO / "white hats" / "light bringers" will use symbolism of the rooster to represent the rooster's ability to awaken people when the "light" is rising.

btw, the myth of kain & able = battle of totalitarian agriculture (kain) and non-totalitarian agriculture/tribalistic hunting & gathering. tribalistic means are "able" to survive evolution .... while kain is the "cane" / crutch / sugar cane that killed his brother: the "able" tribal life.

edit on 12/24/11 by metalshredmetal because: (no reason given)

ITS ABEL not able and its a name and not english...ABEL in another language is not ABLE in english lol...LOOK TO GENESIS OF THE GRAIL KINGS...

THe translation is "Kains Blood was Above Abels"...not Abels blood on the ground, so he was killed lol...Kain had hybrid/evolved genetics so his "Blood" was Higher than Abels...not that Abels was actually on the ground...or that ABEL was more Able lol...YOu are mixing a translated english Name with Modern English descriptive word that did not exist at the time, this really clouds the ability to see what they are talking about...

Get a book from a scholarly person that does translations...and I would suggest a more fringe one as most mainstream items are controlled by the people that do not want you to be knowledged and empowered...

Sorry to pick...but you stated like you know what you were talking about...sorry IMHO you should not state such things without a more thorough knowledge.

TO THE OP Lilith is the unseen sister of our moon also....so the pattern of unseen feminine is symbolically implied...the Jewish Lilith is a Succubus....she comes unseen and in darkness and is very seductive and steals mens energy...

Ever go to a strip club?? Say hello to the Lilith/Succubus energy when its not harmonically integrated... Tell me you can't feel them drawing your sexual energy out of you... Thats why in the bible it warns to avoid that situation...for man cannot resist a succubus once he enters the trap...you know the type....SHE ISN"T THE KINDA LADY YOU TAKE HOME TO MOM...

reply to post by Drala


Yes I have. I also sense that this is what is going on at the Bohemian Grove with all the gay porn stars that are flown in to service the elites. There is many publications and interviews with former presidents that attended to support this claim. I believe that "Lilith" is the owl that they are worshipping and its doing the same thing to the elites that a stripper at a club is doing to a typical man.

Originally posted by scorpine
reply to post by supermanning

 

I Had a Theory like that not to long ago, But I eventually realized i couldn't be exist. That Much Coming from the bible could be twisted to make us think other wise I'm not saying the bible is anything bad. I'm Just Saying we Couldn't recollect well any true facts from the bible. Because (1) The bible has been Changed a lot to give prosperity to those in power i'm not saying there doing it now, But In the past they have changed the bible a lot to feed the needs of a "pope" or "king". But Yes Your theory Couldn't Not Of Comprehended from some idea the Modern age has made not believe in things that Seem "mystical". But I wouldn't get the Bases of a theory from the bible . I would recommend The Book Enoch, and other banned ancient texts that were never even look at by "popes" and "kings" I guess fearing its True Knowledge of the ancient past they have alot of Knowledge to this Day Wonder why no one is reading this haha well I hope my Opinion helped some

Totally with you on Enoch...I have Metatrons Cube for my desktop almost 100% of the time...the one with platonic solids shown in series....beautiful Mandala He might be my favorite Bible er non Bible writer lol

double post

Originally posted by Drala

Originally posted by metalshredmetal

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edit on 12/24/11 by metalshredmetal because: (no reason given)

ITS ABEL not able and its a name and not english...ABEL in another language is not ABLE in english lol...LOOK TO GENESIS OF THE GRAIL KINGS...

THe translation is "Kains Blood was Above Abels"...not Abels blood on the ground, so he was killed lol...Kain had hybrid/evolved genetics so his "Blood" was Higher than Abels...not that Abels was actually on the ground...or that ABEL was more Able lol...YOu are mixing a translated english Name with Modern English descriptive word that did not exist at the time, this really clouds the ability to see what they are talking about...

Get a book from a scholarly person that does translations...and I would suggest a more fringe one as most mainstream items are controlled by the people that do not want you to be knowledged and empowered...

Sorry to pick...but you stated like you know what you were talking about...sorry IMHO you should not state such things without a more thorough knowledge.

i know what words i was using, i was using them purposefully. why would you assume that I meant that the bible was written by a time traveler who wanted to put future words into the bible text?

ever think that maybe our english words have been formed from other words and languages?

i'm pretty well familiar with ancient knowledges and esoteric symbols. sorry if i'm not "scholarly translator" enough for you, you must be a scholarly professor yourself to be so confident to criticize some simple syntax.

IMHO The owl isn't evil, its just dangerous...its like playing with fire...We can know all GOD has to show us...and then we must CHOOSE to never to evil...for everything that comes to us in these times are double edged swords..ITS OUR CHOICE...so I would agree the grove would be a bad place to go....but another grove with an owl might be a different situation if the people that built it had good intentions...

Often the energy build into a place is more than the actually physical "look" of it...the owl is not the trap...the owl is the bait...

Same as women are not the trap...its the succubus that sets the trap with sexual bait. Mother Teresa was a woman too, but she is has the energy of a mother and healer...I am gladly caught in her embrace

Same with everything...we CHOOSE to see the light and dark...for in reality, darkness is just a lack of light...even in the deepest shadows you can find a trace of light to cultivate...Sorry if I am getting a bit too esoteric...

Again IMHO

Originally posted by metalshredmetal

Originally posted by Drala

Originally posted by metalshredmetal

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edit on 12/24/11 by metalshredmetal because: (no reason given)

ITS ABEL not able and its a name and not english...ABEL in another language is not ABLE in english lol...LOOK TO GENESIS OF THE GRAIL KINGS...

THe translation is "Kains Blood was Above Abels"...not Abels blood on the ground, so he was killed lol...Kain had hybrid/evolved genetics so his "Blood" was Higher than Abels...not that Abels was actually on the ground...or that ABEL was more Able lol...YOu are mixing a translated english Name with Modern English descriptive word that did not exist at the time, this really clouds the ability to see what they are talking about...

Get a book from a scholarly person that does translations...and I would suggest a more fringe one as most mainstream items are controlled by the people that do not want you to be knowledged and empowered...

Sorry to pick...but you stated like you know what you were talking about...sorry IMHO you should not state such things without a more thorough knowledge.

i know what words i was using, i was using them purposefully. why would you assume that I meant that the bible was written by a time traveler who wanted to put future words into the bible text?

ever think that maybe our english words have been formed from other words and languages?

i'm pretty well familiar with ancient knowledges and esoteric symbols. sorry if i'm not "scholarly translator" enough for you, you must be a scholarly professor yourself to be so confident to criticize some simple syntax.

Sorry perhaps I was a bit harsh(no time travelling , thats what i mean you are mixing time and languages). However in my defense time is short...I am no scholar by my own pronouncements and my authority you may always question...its not a question of syntax...Google grail kings...

Again sorry, but I didn't mean anything directly to you, I am suggesting you work on your idea and make it more solid...if its to hold up, you should not get offended when someone questions you and offers a corrective direction.

AS I will admit I can be too brash sometimes when correcting people...but I think most people have pretty tough skins...sometimes you gotta get their attention

reply to post by Drala


sorry, let me provide you with this gem: Daniel Quinn

btw, the myth of kain & able = battle of totalitarian agriculture (kain) and non-totalitarian agriculture/tribalistic hunting & gathering. tribalistic means are "able" to survive evolution .... while kain is the "cane" / crutch / sugar cane that killed his brother: the "able" tribal life.

Seriously read that...Myth...Kain and Abel are recorded figures...they did exist. Why again is abel=able, kain=sugar canes or crutch and killing an idea? Kain can't evolve like abel er able?I didn't mention the syntax in the rest of your post...just the inferences you made...trying to follow your thoughts...and its hard...

Originally posted by metalshredmetal
reply to post by Drala

 

sorry, let me provide you with this gem: Daniel Quinn

PS DANIEL QUINN IS A NOVELIST....meaning he writes novels....read his bio, he is a novelist...

Mr. Quinn is best known as the author of Ishmael, the novel that in 1991 won the Turner Tomorrow Fellowship, established to encourage authors to seek "creative and positive solutions to global problems." Ishmael has been in print continuously since its publication in 1992 and has been made available in more than 25 languages. Thoroughout the U.S. and Canada and in other countries as well, Ishmael is used as a text in a broad range of classes that include anthropology, ecology, history, literature, philosophy, ethics, biology, and psychology, at age levels from middle school through graduate level.

He followed Ishmael with an autobiography, Providence (1994), The Story Of B (1996), a novel that continues the philosophical and religious exploration begun in Ishmael; and My Ishmael: A Sequel (1997), in which it's learned that, unbeknownst to the narrator of Ishmael, Ishmael was working with another pupil, a twelve-year-old girl. Other works include Beyond Civilization (1999), a nonfiction work that explores, among other relevant topics, tribal ways of making a living that work here and now; After Dachau (2001), a novel that critics have compared to Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, and 1984; The Man Who Grew Young, a graphic novel that tells the unique and fascinating story of a man who lives backward through time and history; The Holy (2002), a metaphysical thriller that has been compared to John Fowles' The Magus (and which won the 2003 Independent Publisher Award for Mystery/Suspense/Thriller of the Year); Tales of Adam (2005), written as part of an early version of the book that ultimately became Ishmael, illustrated by Michael McCurdy; Work, Work, Work, (2006), a children's book with Quinn's own illustrations; and If They Give You Lined Paper, Write Sideways, in which the author investigates the source of his own ideas (which so many readers have found mysteriously alien). His short fiction has appeared in The Quarterly, Asylum, Magic Realism, and elsewhere.

Sorry, I'll look for better "GEMS" elsewhere....

Sorry back to the originally scheduled thread....

LILITH....give some insight I am outta here...sorry for partially hijacking your thread...

interesting theory man. never thought of that one before

reply to post by supermanning


In Enoch 1, the watchers who corrupted mankind were given 70 generations until their judgment. Calculate the generation by dividing earth's precession of 26000 by 360 degrees. You get 72.2222. A generation to the Hebrews is approx. 70 years. Multiply 70 by 72.2222 and you get 5055 years. Enoch was taken at the age of 365 at around 950ish. Add these together and get approx 6000 depending on Enoch's proclamation and the year it engaged. Jesus said that these days would be cut short or no flesh would survive. What days?

Epistle of Barnabas

Barnabas 15:3
Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And
God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the
seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it.

Barnabas 15:4
Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He
meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all
things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years;
and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of
the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six
days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end.

Adam to Abraham is 2000 years or 2 days
Abraham to Jesus is 2000 years or 2 days
Jesus to today is 2000 years or 2 days

This leaves the 1000 year rest as the enemies of Christ are made his footstool.

Israel becomes a nation in 1948

Matthew 24 is the key chapter that tells us the signs of the end.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

This generation of 1948 will not pass away. That means they will still be alive. Use the 70 years instead of the 2.222 left and you get 2018. Tribulation starts in 2012.

Now go to Psalms 111. If you have ever done a search on the Psalms, you will see that key dates correspond to key Psalms. 1914 is WWI and Psalm 14 and so on.

Psalm 111 and 112 are 2011-2012. They are an acrostic of the Hebrew letters of the Alefbet. 111 is a command to awaken. 112 is a command to give and love others. If 2012 is the start of tribulation, we would expect psalms 115 to be the halfway point where the antichrist image is revealed. Sure enough, this is what we find. 2018 is a victory followed by the gates of heaven opened. 119 is another acrostic of the Hebrew letters.

Whatever Lilith represents, we know the divine beings in Genesis 6 are judged in our day and age.

Now go to the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs. Each of them references Enoch. One of them speaks of the 70 weeks until judgment for the same beings. In III, verse 16, we read this.

16. And now I have learnt in the book of Enoch that for seventy weeks will ye go astray, and will profane the
priesthood, and pollute the sacrifices, and corrupt the law, and set at nought the words of the prophets. In perverseness ye will persecute righteous men, and hate the godly; the words of the faithful will ye abhor, and
the man who reneweth the law in the power of the Most High will ye call a deceiver;
25
and at last, as ye
suppose, ye will slay Him, not understanding His resurrection, wickedly taking upon your own heads the
innocent blood.
26
Because of Him shall your holy places be desolate, polluted even to the ground, and ye shall
have no place that is clean; but ye shall be among the Gentiles a curse and a dispersion, until He shall again
look upon you, and in pity shall take you to Himself through faith and water.
27

17. And because ye have heard concerning the seventy weeks, hear also concerning the priesthood; for in each
jubilee there shall be a priesthood. In the first jubilee, the first who is anointed into the priesthood shall be great,
and shall speak to God as to a Father; and his priesthood shall be filled with the fear of the Lord, and in the day
of his gladness shall he arise for the salvation of the world. In the second jubilee, he that is anointed shall be
conceived in the sorrow of beloved ones; and his priesthood shall be honoured, and shall be glorified among all.

Thanks for the post, interesting theories from everyone.

QUESTION? Does God copy write his word??????

Below link The Book of Enoch EXPOSED!

www.jesus-is-savior.com...

reply to post by SuperiorEd

A great deal of info here. First, let me state my belief in 1914. I believe this is the year that Jesus started his 1000 year reign and his first order of business was to banish Satan and 1/3 of the angels of heaven that were misled by him to the vicinity of the earth. Now when the bible says vicinity, what is in the vicinity of the earth? The Moon. Now I have also seen and heard interviews by astronauts claiming there is an alien base on the dark side of the moon and why we have never been back to the moon. Looking at things in this light tends to put things into perspective.

I also believe that 2012 is not the end of the world, but rather the beginning of the "great tribulation." Between the Flu virus' TPTB are creating on a daily basis in labs around the world, to the genetically modified plants and animals, If it isn't cut short, NO ONE COULD POSSIBLY LIVE ON EARTH.

Good finds!!!!!

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Here is a quote from that LINK....... LOOK FOR THE UNDERLINED!!!!!

Here's chapter 48:1-3...

1 And in that place I saw the fountain of righteousness Which was inexhaustible: And around it were many fountains of wisdom: And all the thirsty drank of them, And were filled with wisdom, And their dwellings were with the righteous and holy and elect. 2 And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits, And his name before the Head of Days. 3 Yea, before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of the heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Spirits.

Was the Son of Man named? When was Jesus named in Heaven? This is an attack on the deity of Jesus. Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Jesus is Eternal, without beginning or end. Head of Days? Lord of Spirits? These terms are NOT found in the Bible. IF the Book of Enoch were valid, composing well over 100 chapters, there should be numerous New Testament references to it; but there aren't. Although some people claim that the Bible quotes the Book of Enoch over 100 times, this is simply not true. Just as the Qur'an, the Book of Enoch borrows from the Word of God. In sharp contrast to the Book of Enoch, the New Testament often quotes the Book of Genesis.

Revelation 1:8 IS NOT JESUS SPEAKING, JESUS IS NOT GOD, HE IS NOT THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, HIS FATHER YHWH IS. Hence the capital LORD was put in the place of YHWH. THIS LINK IS A SORRY EXCUSE OF PROPAGANDA BY SOMEONE WHO WISHES TO DISPROVE THE BOOK OF ENOCH WITH A NOVICE AMOUNT OF WISDOM. LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA