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The end of Ron Paul?

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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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www.telegraph.co.uk...

Looks like Ron`s enemies are having a last-ditch attempt at libelling him. They must be worried as it has reached the MSM in the UK.
edit on 23-12-2011 by dr treg because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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He has explained these papers many times. Just as many times as there are threads on the subject.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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These newsletters that are over 20 years old are pulled out every single time he starts to gain ground. The best part is they're not even true. Paul has said over and over that not only did he not write them, but he didnt even know about them until 10 years after they existed. For a man with a flawless 30 year record I trust him over the people that lie to me on a daily basis. Sadly, the sheep that may just be looking at Paul for the first time will think otherwise. Thats the whole reason behind this story. To steer the sheep back to the herd.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:10 PM
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Despite the negativity, Ron Paul just went up +1 point today in the national polls, and his fundraising has also gone up. The average American is waking up and seeing past the media's BS and bias.

Newsletter, racist? Pfft. Let's compare:

Ron Paul - Made the mistake of letting someone right "racist" (not really) stuff in his newsletter (which had multiple writers) while he was busy tending to his medical practice and being a congressman.

Newt Gingrich - Actually said himself "Spanish is the language of the ghetto" and saying that inner-city blacks have no work ethic. FROM HIS OWN MOUTH. Video:www.youtube.com... And THEN, he insults Spanish speaking people by trying to voice an apology in spanish (poorly, with bad spanish from a teleprompter) while trying to pander votes from latinos:
www.youtube.com...

Yet when Gingrich was in the national spotlight and was surging in the polls, the media didn't even report on this.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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"They" are afriad. It is obvious. Someone who has lived a great American Life. He has all ready won.

There can be no lose. He will win because the people will believe in him. The election will be overwhelmed by

those who have not yet cast their ballot. They tell us our vote doesn't count. I say it does. If everyone voted for the

doctor instead of the lawyer, we would all be better off.. well.. except for TPTB.

-Nickneal7 -------- USVET---- Parent---- Brewmaster



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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I find this sooooo humorous. The one thing I heard cnn ask him was in regards to "jews being behind wtc 93 bombing" and it is funny bcause no matter what, its a win for ron. Many people may side with him based on that alone, even if he recanted the remarks made in the papers. It really is a win win. Infact, true or not true, dont matter. He handles himself professionally. Ron Paul 2012



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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Ron is a bigger man than those that would use falsehoods and slanderous accusations against him.

These papers have been debunked many times and have been explained by Ron himself...many times.

If this is the only so-called dirt they can dredge up, I would say that he is a saint compared to the alternatives.

Go Ron Paul...from Canada...


Peace



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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Ah, you are a brewer too? I am sitting here right now enjoying one of my own. I am also quite the accomplished brewer if I may say so myself.

Sorry, this was off topic. On topic, many of the founders were brewers. I wonder if Ron Paul is one...
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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If one were to look deep enough, one would see that Ron Paul has less blemishes (if he even has ANY at all) during his ENTIRE lifetime than those other clowns running gather EACH AND EVERY single day of their BLEMISHED and EPIC FAILURE lives.

Ron Paul is a SUPER-SUPER-SAINT compared to ANY other clown in office. And especially so among those EPIC CLOWNS currently running for the republican circus party.


Seriously, WHO in their right mind would vote for any of those other Republican clown bums??!



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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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The one bonus about these newsletters coming out once again is he may actually get asked about them on nation tv and if he can get evidence to plead his case and have a website dedicated to it and just say his version and say if you would like to know more on this subject go to such and such website and that will put it back into his favour straight away.

They will try their hardest but when you have something from 20 years ago compared to things others have done very recently I know who I would go for especially if that is the only thing they have against him



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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I may not know everything but I know Paul supporters aren't going anywhere. He has a solid ~20+% in Iowa and New Hampshire, anything that is above that could be soft support from establishment voters currently 'considering' him.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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Just to throw my 2pennies in, I live in the UK & up until shortly before the last US election nobody i knew had heard of Obama & probably due to being cynical of Politicians in general we were not "convinced". Ron Paul however is known, we didn't know a lot but we had heard of him & what we had heard was mostly positive. Personally i am convinced by this man & at the risk of being made to look foolish by future events, i would like to think that you Yanks can see past the media bias which is so obvios from here & vote for the guy. I don't think he's perfect & have some serios issues with him about help for the poorest in society but he's by far the best that has appeard for a very long time IMO!



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Hopefully..

So sick of hearing his name.

I dont give a 'thing'

There all the same
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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They also managed to find the worst photo of him published with the article.

2cnd



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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From a Canadian perspective,
I want you guys to vote him in, talk about him, tell your friends and neighbours about what he wants to do with the economy, with everything!
Because your not just helping yourself now, i WISH i could vote for him from here but thats not how it works unfortunately. As i can see, the president of the united states influences our own government here. We see harper and obama together quite frequently,
Maybe they're beer buddies or something. But.

I can definitely see the positive in Ron Paul, and perhaps our own government would follow suit, and start along the same path.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by e11888
The best part is they're not even true.

Paul has said over and over that not only did he not write them, but he didnt even know about them until 10 years after they existed.


If such is the case how do you explain his signature at the end?



Ron Paul under fire for racist newsletters

Any other politician and the masses on ATS would be calling for blood in the streets.

I disagree with enough of Ron Paul's political ideals to be lukewarm to him at best, add to that the rampant schizophrenic hypocrisy that seems to be manifested throughout his internet fan-base and he has lost my interest.


Sadly, the sheep that may just be looking at Paul for the first time will think otherwise. Thats the whole reason behind this story. To steer the sheep back to the herd.


Aside from the sheeple line getting worn to death, in light of some of the recent public commentary if I were a Ron Paul supporter I would think twice about the specific implication of accusing others of a herd mentality in this context.

People in glass houses and all that good stuff



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

If such is the case how do you explain his signature at the end?



That's not a signature.
It's a rubber stamp.
Hell even I can tell through the fuzzy low resolution picture of the bad photocopy.


David Grouchy



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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You know the fake signature you get on a credit card letter in the mail?
or other various forms of mail.

Do you have a recent comparison of ron pauls signature? That would help greatly.
But its super easy to forge someones signature, especially that one right there which is not very elegant.

I dont think RP has ever openly said any racist things.
Also,


Libertarianism has been variously defined by sources. In the strictest sense, it is the political philosophy that holds individual liberty as the basic moral principle of society. In the broadest sense, it is any political philosophy which approximates this view. Libertarianism includes diverse beliefs, all advocating strict limits to government activity and sharing the goal of maximizing individual liberty and political freedom

Source

If he's racist, why is he a libertarian? i thought that was a repub/dem thing.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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The Dallas Morning News
May 22, 1996
Candidate's comments on blacks questioned

Author: Catalina Camia; Washington Bureau of The Dallas Morning News

Edition: HOME FINAL
Section: NEWS
Page: 8A
Dateline: WASHINGTON

Index Terms:
ELECTIONS '96

Estimated printed pages: 3

Article Text:

WASHINGTON - Dr. Ron Paul, a Republican congressional candidate from Texas, wrote in his political newsletter in 1992 that 95 percent of the black men in Washington, D.C., are "semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

He also wrote that black teenagers can be "unbelievably fleet of foot."

An official with the NAACP in Texas said the comments were racist and offensive.

Dr. Paul, who is running in Texas' 14th Congressional District, defended his writings in an interview Tuesday. He said they were being taken out of context.

"It's typical political demagoguery," he said. "If people are interested in my character . . . come and talk to my neighbors."

Dr. Paul, an ex-congressman and former Libertarian Party presidential candidate, defeated Rep. Greg Laughlin, R-West Columbia, in April for the Republican nomination for the U.S. House.

An obstetrician from Surfside, he faces Democratic lawyer Charles "Lefty" ! Morris of Bee Cave in the November general election. Mr. Morris, who said he was familiar with the writings in question, declined to comment about the specifics.

"Many of his views are out on the fringe," Mr. Morris said. "But voters in the 14th District have to characterize these the way they see it. His statements speak for themselves."

According to a Dallas Morning News review of documents circulating among Texas Democrats, Dr. Paul wrote in a 1992 issue of the Ron Paul Political Report: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet of foot they can be."

Dr. Paul, who served in Congress in the late 1970s and early 1980s, said Tuesday that he has produced the newsletter since 1985 and distributes it to an estimated 7,000 to 8,000 subscribers. A phone call to the newsletter's toll-free number was answered by his campaign staff.

Dr. Paul also said he did not know how his newsletter came to be ! included in a directory by the Heritage Front, a neo-Nazi group based in Canada. The newsletter was listed on the Internet under the directory's heading "Racialists and Freedom Fighters."

No one answered calls to the Heritage Front, which lists only a hotline connected to a tape-recorded message in the Toronto telephone directory.

Gary Bledsoe, president of the Texas NAACP, urged Dr. Paul to apologize for his comments about blacks and asked Republicans to denounce their nominee.

"We need someone who can represent all the constituents of Texas, not someone who is negative or engages in stereotypes," Mr. Bledsoe said. "Someone who holds those views signals or indicates an inability to represent all constituents without regard to race, creed or color."

About 11 percent of the population in the 14th District, stretching from near Austin to the Gulf Coast, is black.

Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be r! ead and quoted in their entirety to avoid

misrepresentation.

Dr. Paul also took exception to the comments of Mr. Bledsoe, saying that the voters in the 14th District and the people who know him best would be the final judges of his character.

"If someone challenges your character and takes the

interpretation of the NAACP as proof of a man's character, what kind of a world do you live in?" Dr. Paul asked.

In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men.

"If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them," Dr. Paul said.

He also said the comment about black men in the nation's capital was made while writing about a 1992 study produced by the National Center on Incarceration and Alternatives, a criminal justice think tank based in Virginia.

Citing statistics from the study, Dr. Paul then concluded in his column: `Given the inef! ficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

"These aren't my figures," Dr. Paul said Tuesday. "That is the assumption you can gather from" the report

Caption:
PHOTO(S): Dr. Ron Paul . . . says his comments are being taken out of context.

Copyright 1996 The Dallas Morning News Company
Record Number: DAL1568670



So in 1996 he claims to have written the newsletter and that his comments were "taken out of context"...
Why can the Ron Paul heard not see that they are being lied to...

So many misconceptions...



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 10:27 PM
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That does appear to be pretty damning, however i'm not totally convinced, i could be wrong but the way this piece is written may make it seem worse than it actually is & assuming Ron Paul is being truthful in his replies it could be a "spin" piece by an opponent. I'm not saying it is, just that it's possible.




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