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Here we go again, another proposed tax that will negatively affect domestic mineral production because some politicians do not understand what the mining industry provides. Obama’s new dirt tax plans to tax every ton of dirt moved by the mining industry in hopes of lowering the national deficit. The proposed tax, applicable to all mining operations, goes beyond a tax on the amount of minerals removed from the ground to a tax on all dirt, rock and other materials moved during the extraction process.
you have to understand the american government has a huge deficit that needs to be addressed.. they will need to make this money somehow.. and if they dont take it from the companies they take it from YOU
Isn't the tax expense passed on to the consumer through higher prices for materials? In the end, the burden IS on the consumer [(You and I)IMO]
Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by proob4
this makes you angry?
why shouldnt the mining industry be heavily taxed?
its better to see the big companies taking a hit for once rather than the little man like you or i..
you have to understand the american government has a huge deficit that needs to be addressed.. they will need to make this money somehow.. and if they dont take it from the companies they take it from YOU
Originally posted by mnmcandiez
reply to post by Misterlondon
You really think taxing mining companies for moving dirt is going to fix a mathematically impossible deficit to pay off and not increase prices on the small consumer?
Get real please.edit on 12/10/2011 by mnmcandiez because: (no reason given)
The industries that benefit from special tax breaks for polluting activities are diverse and include:
* Chemicals-Polluters can write off almost all the costs of cleaning up hazardous substances, including lawyer fees. Companies that spill oil and dump toxic wastes receive this tax subsidy even when the actions are intentional or the result of gross negligence.
* Mining-The industry enjoys outright tax subsidies for mining toxic substances such as lead, mercury and asbestos. These subsidies can exceed the value of the owner's investment in the mine.
* Oil & Gas-The oil and gas industry enjoys the best targeted tax treatment available to any industry. For example, investors can write off "passive" losses from oil and gas investments but not from investments in other industries.
* Agribusiness-The tax code provides tax breaks to huge, chemical-intensive agriculture without helping small farmers nor promoting sustainable agricultural practices.
* Timber-Special tax benefits for the industry drive up profits but do nothing to promote sustainable forestry. For example, special rules permit timber companies to deduct capital costs immediately while other businesses cannot deduct such costs.
At a time when there are no guarantees of government support for the poor, the young or the infirm, one might ask whether there should be guarantees of government support for businesses, particularly those that degrade the natural environment and threaten health.
this proposal would result in at least $1.8 billion of increased taxes on domestic hardrock mining over the next ten years.
Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by proob4
this makes you angry?
why shouldnt the mining industry be heavily taxed?
its better to see the big companies taking a hit for once rather than the little man like you or i..
you have to understand the american government has a huge deficit that needs to be addressed.. they will need to make this money somehow.. and if they dont take it from the companies they take it from YOU
Originally posted by occrest
reply to post by Misterlondon
you have to understand the american government has a huge deficit that needs to be addressed.. they will need to make this money somehow.. and if they dont take it from the companies they take it from YOU
Isn't the tax expense passed on to the consumer through higher prices for materials? In the end, the burden IS on the consumer [(You and I)IMO]
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by AlreadyGone
When the mining industry goes bankrupted is OK, we will have China taking over as usual.
You are right, what people doesn't understand about economics is that you can no pay your debt if you spend more than you earn, is very simple to understand, but in this day and times that is how most Americans does live beyond their means with loans and credit, just like the government does, but while Americans can not make their own money the government does
American debt is beyond fixing without collapsing the entire system and robbing the citizens from their pensions funds, retirement and entitlement programs. Like the EU is trying to do bud they call it, "Austerity" and still is not working because the people will never agree with it without revolution