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Originally posted by KJV1611
First of all, Catholics are not Christians......they are Catholic. How hard is that guys? Can't people spell, much less read Sound it out! How embarrassing that I see this same mistake almost 5 times a day on ATS.
Sucks to be you.
I spend most of my life confused, your post has temporarily extended that confusion.
Starting from the premise that Catholics aren't Christians, would you pleas identify who the Christians were prior to, oh, say, 1700?
One other thing I'm not clear on, which I think you can clear up for me; when Jesus says "go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations . . . ." Do you see that as conquering the world?
There never has been a Christian army. Although there will be in the future as found in Revelation 19. Which read.
By the way, I'm sure there must have been, but could you remind me of the Christian Armies who have conquered another country in the last 400 years?
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
Originally posted by mikejohnson2006
The reason I want to know is because the Neocon Right Wingers always tell me that the Islamists desire to conquer the World for Islam but don't all Religions do this ? Why just pick on Islam ? When Christians started the Crusades in the name of Christianity to conquer Palestine. I think Islamist Terrorism is caused by U.S. Foreign Policy rather then their desire for Empire Christians have had Christian Empires.
There are two categories of control in this world. Tyranny and Self-governance. All countries are a degree of this, just like fear and courage; hate and love; up and down and so on. Once you know this, follow the mindset by the fruit they produce.
The true Christian religion is based on faith in God for authority. The God of the Bible stands for equality of all people in loving-kindness to each other. This is a mindset that focuses on the power of the individual to serve the greater good of the many in place of the temporary gain of the individual. The golden rule is the primary law and is the only rule a person needs to live in peace and harmony with the world. Faith is in the spirit of the individual as a reflection of God's perfect love for us.
Anything else is a degree of difference toward tyranny. The Muslim faith seeks covet means to gain power and control by stealing, killing and destroying. The power rests in the few at the top who control the masses. Laws are geared toward taking the choice away from the individual. Faith is in power and not in God.
Know them by their fruits. America was founded on the mindset of Altruism and the power of choice for the individual to express liberty and freedom according to law and justice for all. As we drift away from this, we embrace tyranny and slavery of the people for the temporary gain of the few.
The good in life we all seek is found by where we start. If we start with seeking the things in life first, we end in suffering. If we start with God, requiring suffering work for the reward of others first, we gain true reward for ourselves in the end. Peace and security follows.
But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
The kingdom of God is love for others. If our faith is not placed in God, we do not see the goodness of ourselves in the other person. Humility before God is required.
edit on 6-12-2011 by SuperiorEd because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by Majiq
Your ignorant. Learn history. Don't read history, learn it.
Unless you are gay or in any other way subvert what "god" wants people to do/behave, right? The problem with all religions is that they use their bible to justify what they really want to do. It's the bible that was used to justify slavery, to justify the slaughtering of the native americans, to justify the holocaust, I could go on and on and on....
-According to Lev. 25:44 I (speaking from an American point of view) can own slaves but they have to be Mexican or Canadian
-If your daughter pisses you off just sell her into lifelong slavery as allowed by Exodus 21:7
-Bills piling up? Need a little extra cash for Xmas? Careful you don't work on Sundays, the penalty is death. (Exodus 35:2)
-Enjoy a good seafood platter of shellfish? Not anymore you don't! (Leviticus 11:10)
-Like to keep the beard trimmed up, or maybe you prefer your hair trimmed around your ears. Well that is a no-no expressly forbidden (Leviticus 19:27)
The sickest part about this outdated work of poorly written sci-fi/horror crap is that people actually believe that it is real.
Oh, and before someone comes along with that tired old argument that Jesus came along and therefore the barbaric laws of the old testament were undone. That is not so, and I suggest you take a look at Matthew 5:17