Saudis fear ‘no more virgins’ and people will turn gay if female drive ban is lifted

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
Islamic culture selects for stupidity as is evidenced by their stupid actions.

Such a stupid stupid culture Islam is!

Islam is not a culture, it's a religion.

The stupid and dangerous culture is the one that forces it's standards on others

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Western Civilization is superior in every way to the Islamic Civilization as is evidenced by the vast array of achievements attained by the West.

Islamic Civilization is and always has been an enemy of the West. There is no need to pretend to accommodation when it will not be returned.

The Islamic world desires our submission to Allah and they have brought down nation after western nation in their march to ascendancy. How much more land must we cede to the maw of Allah to make you comfortable? The West has ceded enough land to the muslims. It is time to take it back. All of it.

If they really wanted to ban women drivers.
Just make them take a parallel parking test.

If you can't parallel park your can't drive.

And to people (everybody) that say this is crazy...

Remember that lots of ``republicans`` say that if homosexual marriage is legalized, people will start marrying animals and that heterosexuals will disappear from the face of the earth.

Crazy people like that from around the world should all move to Saudi Arabia where they can argue their crazy theories all day long while sane people go along with their business and go forward.

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
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Western Civilization is superior in every way to the Islamic Civilization as is evidenced by the vast array of achievements attained by the West.

Islamic Civilization is and always has been an enemy of the West. There is no need to pretend to accommodation when it will not be returned.

The Islamic world desires our submission to Allah and they have brought down nation after western nation in their march to ascendancy. How much more land must we cede to the maw of Allah to make you comfortable? The West has ceded enough land to the muslims. It is time to take it back. All of it.

Ok Hitler, let's take out the Jews too while we're over there.

Saudis are crazy... republicans too...

If same-sex marriage is permitted, Bachmann's Iowa co-chair warns, next people will want to marry inanimate objects

Crazy people everywhere... I want off this planet...

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So many people these days are extremely invested in the behavior of other people, it boggles my mind! Everyone is so eager to tell others what is right and wrong and how they should behave and live their lives... I really cannot understand the motivation to be so controlling of other people and other countries, religions and cultures. I do not comprehend the NEED to tell others how to live - I simply don't understand.


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Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
Western Civilization is superior in every way to the Islamic Civilization as is evidenced by the vast array of achievements attained by the West.

Spoken by someone from the Western Culture and someone clearly ignorant of the vast array of achievements of the Islamic civilization.

But that's not even the issue, because I'm from the Western Culture, too. I just don't have the arrogant opinion that 'We're Number One"! and that we know better than everyone what is right and wrong and how everyone should live.

Do you think your opinion about their culture is shared by them? Who should define their culture? The people who live there or the people of another country?

Originally posted by muzzleflash
this is one of the propaganda methods of distracting you from your own slavery, oh lets get our nose in other people's business and tell them how to live.

That type of statement is one of the propaganda methods of distracting people from seeing the truth of what goes on in some islamic countries .. that women are treated worse than dirt and we are all supposed to close our eyes and not discuss it because it isn't politically correct to point out how Islam is awful towards women.

What's the point of this propaganda piece anyways? I sense a "Let's go kill some Muslims" insinuation somewhere within it.

:shk: there's always one in the bunch ....your 'sensing' is off, get your radar checked ... The 'point' is that this is a discussion forum and we are discussing how backwards it is to believe that because a woman drives a car, then suddenly everyone in a country is going to be humping everyone else ... and they'll all turn gay too. BTW ... the truth isn't 'propaganda' no matter what spin you try to put on it.

What is more oppressive? Allowing them to conduct their own society the way they wish, or us going over there to force them to adopt our standards of culture and societal behavior

Oh lord .... check out how 'tolerance' can be misapplied ... An oppressive society is one that whips a woman for daring to want to drive a car or leave her house .... and last I saw no one was forcing Saudi Arabia to do anything .... ... they are still as backwards as ever ....

But you can't fit a car in the kitchen so what's the harm with allowing women to drive...?

reply to post by FlyersFan

According to their 'scientific report'

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Yea, interesting, people sure worry about what the Christians are doing .

Originally posted by _Del_
There are several reasons women shouldn't drive. I don't think this article covers them...

(I'm kidding; put down the rolling pins)

edit on 2-12-2011 by _Del_ because: (no reason given)

Bologna, there is actually scientific evidence that women are better drivers.
editorial.autos.msn.com...

ha ha

BTW I didn't lose my virginity in a car,

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
It reminds me of some of the ignorant fears that people in the US have about gays marrying: If the gays marry, it will destroy traditional marriage and their kids will all be gay and the population will die off!

Yes ... that's dumb .... but that stupidity isn't presented to the legislature running the country in DC as a scientific truth .. and it doesn't effect the federal law of the country ... and it doesn't create official federal laws that then lead to women being whipped and beaten ... etc.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
This article only serves one purpose, to dehumanize Muslims and condemn their way of life. And I won't put up with it. We ought to mind our own business, IMHO.

Wrong. The article shows the truth of what is happening in Saudi Arabia. THE TRUTH. It serves to educate people and remind them of the stupidity that happens in the world every day ... the only dehumanizing going on with this is what the Saudis do to women over there. To ignore it and turn a blind eye - a blind eye to misogyny, to women being beaten for no reason, to idiocy, to a backwards society that we are, for some reason, calling an allie, simply because the politically correct thing to do at this time is to let aspects of Islam run amuk - that's absurd.

"We ought to mind our own business" ??? Sure, in many things, but if we had done that with South Africa then aparthid would still be running the show. It took an international boycot and international pressure to be rid of it. If we had done that with whale hunts then the whale population would be a wreck and the eco-balance would be even worse ... if we had done that with Nelson Mandela then he would have died in prison .... If we had done that with the seal hunts in Canada ...etc etc

You have misplaced your righteous anger. Getting mad at people and/or articles that point out error means your anger is misplaced. Try getting angry at the men who have enslaved the women ... who beat them just because they feel like it ... who propogate ignorance like is seen in the article. That would be a more approrpiate place for your anger .. not the people who bring you THE TRUTH.

Originally posted by goldcoin
The stupid and dangerous culture is the one that forces it's standards on others[

Which includes the culture that is born of the religion of Islam.
Slavery and misogyny aren't acceptable 'culture's.
They aren't worthy of the ... um ... protective righteous anger .. that is being displayed by some.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Spoken by someone from the Western Culture and someone clearly ignorant of the vast array of achievements of the Islamic civilization. ?

700 years ago ... good stuff. Not today. Not for hundreds of years.
A culture that doesn't allow women to leave home alone .. that doesn't allow a woman to drive ... and in many cases doesn't allow women to even get an education ... they aren't going to have 'vast array of achievements' worthy of note compared to countries that encourage both men and women to be educated.

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I am criticizing "our Western culture" which thinks it has the right to go everywhere around the world and dominate other people's culture and force them to change their society to fit our standards. Meanwhile we allow our own cultural, economic, political, etc standards to erode even further down the drain. It's pure hypocrisy.

Oh and, H E double hockey sticks, that works both ways, after all we are

THE GREAT SATAN!

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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I do not comprehend the NEED to tell others how to live - I simply don't understand.

The article tells the truth of what is happening in Saudi Arabia.
That isn't telling THEM how to live. That's telling US how they live.
It's called education.
You'd rather the world was ignorant of how others live?
You'd rather the world didn't know the truth of how others live?
Hey .. sometimes the truth is ugly .. and in this case, it is.

Youd' rather 'live and let live' in ALL cases?? Then we should never have had an international boycott and international pressure put on South Africa to end aparthid. We never should have put international pressure on Japan to end whale hunts in Antarctica. We never should have put international pressure on Canada to end baby seal hunts. We shouldn't be putting international pressure on South America to end the devastation that is happening to the rain forest ... afterall ... it's THEIR country and they have a right to tear down the trees and starve the rest of us of oxygen if they want. Right?

Or is it 'live and let live' only in the cases you pick??

Educating the world when something is wrong and inhuman ... and then perhaps having the world come together to put pressure on the perps to clean up their acts ... that can be a very good thing. I'm sure that the women in Saudi Arabia who get beaten up and whipped for wanting to drive a car to the grocery store would appreciate a little outside 'interference' in the form of an international boycott or international pressure.

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I would be interested in your recitation of the great achievements developed within the Islamic Civilization.

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Hitler was a rampant socialist. His administration bemoaned their being saddled with the soft, forgiving flabbiness of Christianity and greatly admired the bloodlust of the muslims and wished they could make the Germans more like the muslims.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
The article tells the truth of what is happening in Saudi Arabia.

Does it? I noticed a lot of partially quoted sentences and no link to the actual report so that we could read and decipher for ourselves. And I also noticed that it's from the UK Mail, which is known for printing anti-Islam propaganda (among propaganda of other kinds). If you think it "tells the truth" about what is happening, that's fine. But I'd like to read about it in a less obviously biased and chopped up source.

Secondly, my comment was neither directed toward you or toward the article in the OP. My comment was directed at another member's post, which I made clear.

reply to post by mike_trivisonno


Wikipedia

I wanna see all you naysayers defend Christianity and the conservative right from now on, I will be watching,

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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I do not comprehend the NEED to tell others how to live - I simply don't understand.

That's a double edged sword, liberals are always telling conservatives what they should and should not agree with.

For example Islam is against homosexuality, yet we shall ignore that, but if a Christian sect is against homosexuality, you would take issue with them,

I am not speaking for myself, just pointing it out.