Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by nenothtu
Great post and I humbly stand corrected based on the info you provided
But I think we can both agree that if total nuclear war happened we would be in a pretty bad way, it would effect us all and none in a good way.
Absolutely! I don't mean to imply that nuclear war is a good
thing - NO war is. It's much better to speak against something from a position of
solid strength, however, with a firm knowledge base, so that there is no way to refute one's words and impeach his testimony. This is doubly important
with something as serious as nuclear war.
One thing the reports don't mention though are the psychological effects of a nuclear war, I do think if it ever happened you would get millions of
the survivors just topping themselves or just killing each other because it truly would break our minds and spirits.
There's no doubt about that. The reports were written by physicists, and psychological considerations were not adequately addressed. Those reports
were written in 1977 and 1979. The physics
have not changed, but IMO the psychology HAS changed since then, so even if they had addressed
psychology, it would be out of date by now. People around here at least seem to be psychologically weaker in general than they were then. There are
probably still some around who could
handle it mentally, but not as many as before, and there's no sane reason they should be subjected to
I'm not sure how things are in the UK these days, but people in general in the US seem to expect more from others and less from themselves than they
ever have before, and that''s a recipe for disaster. I have grave doubts that China is plagued with that problem. In the US, when those expectations
are not met, or the people somehow feel "let down", it could get ugly, quick. The nuclear aspect of the war would probably be the least of our
Existence in the aftermath would be FAR worse to cope with.
I was trying to imagine if bombs had destroyed great city's like London,Manchester and not so great one's like Birmingham (UK here) all the
history, all the art all the ladies gone... no goverment for months maybe, fear of another attack, fear of radiation,fear of food being contaminated,
fear of my fellow man ...I dont know if many people could hack it, especially if your stuck in such a small country.
Sod it I hope I just see a bright light and burn in an instant I think its better than living.
Cheers BM xx
I've heard that argument before, and I can't fault it - it's what you feel, after all, and it's not my place to assess that. I am just the other way.
I've lived through some fairly horrendous stuff, and the one thing I've come out the other side with is a firm will to live. The worse it gets, the
stronger my resolve gets. It's not a matter of a fear of death, it's more a matter of stubbornness. I get mad, and that drives me onward. That's my
own psychology, and I don't expect anyone else to follow suit, although a percentage probably will.
PS Just an after thought but after the bombs had dropped would the war be over? or would we see surviving army's try and take over place's with
untouched resources? It may go on for years...
I personally think the bombing would only be the beginning. Things would be relatively quiet and filled with psychological shocks for the first couple
of weeks or months, but as the radiation levels fell off accordingly with the Rules of Sevens, people would start coming out, venturing forth, and
finding some absolutely horrendous, mind-numbing things. People would be pitted against one another more likely than not during that period.
When levels fell enough to field armies into the destruction zones, there would be that additional annoyance to deal with, and paradoxically, perhaps,
that would be the most likely thing to get people to stop fighting each other and concentrate on the common enemy.
Some countries would be sending aid through altruistic motives, some would be sending "aid" through ulterior motives. That aid would likely be
accompanied by military escorts, which some would view as a threat, The attacking country, assuming they had enough surviving infrastructure
themselves, would likely be sending troops of their own, for entirely different purposes.
All in all, it would amount to a huge cluster-f**k, or what is known as a "Chinese Fire Drill".
There's always the potential for an EMP attack using nukes at high altitude to generate the EMP. That would be worse, perhaps. It would not produce
any fallout at all, and the nuclear aspects of the explosions would be negligible, if at all existent. What it WOULD do is cripple infrastructure that
it would take YEARS to replace, even without a ground war.
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