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If a world war 3 comes up who will be the United States allies and enemys?

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posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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the USA will be Alone.... end times prophecy tells the tale that the 7 heads & 10 horns/kings of the Beast Empire will turn on the Beast and set fire to the whole kingdom, and strip it of all its wealth & finery...


look it up in Revelations... the whole world turns its wrath on the Beast Empire and destroys it...

the only, sole superpower, top dog of the planet ...in the spheres of wealth, power, politics, banking is the English speaking Empire of Global Hegemony, "the USA.".. and It's many Treaties with most of the Nations of the World.



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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Money is indeed the source of all corruption on earth.....



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by St Udio
the USA will be Alone.... end times prophecy tells the tale that the 7 heads & 10 horns/kings of the Beast Empire will turn on the Beast and set fire to the whole kingdom, and strip it of all its wealth & finery...


look it up in Revelations... the whole world turns its wrath on the Beast Empire and destroys it...

the only, sole superpower, top dog of the planet ...in the spheres of wealth, power, politics, banking is the English speaking Empire of Global Hegemony, "the USA.".. and It's many Treaties with most of the Nations of the World.


Stop using bible references and stories from idiots who think they can see into the future.

Anyway on topic. NATO vs Russia, Syria, Iran, Pakistan

Unless the world finally wakes up and takes out the ACTUAL terrorists, the American government. Please to any Americans here, I'm not wishing death apon the american civilians, just the government. Well I don't really wish death apon the government, just to be removed and hand over power to the People. I'd love it if all governments from round the world would hand power to the people or change the policies so we'd have to vote on proposals made by the government.

Well that won't happen. Syria here we come.



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by St Udio
the USA will be Alone.... end times prophecy tells the tale that the 7 heads & 10 horns/kings of the Beast Empire will turn on the Beast and set fire to the whole kingdom, and strip it of all its wealth & finery...


look it up in Revelations... the whole world turns its wrath on the Beast Empire and destroys it...

the only, sole superpower, top dog of the planet ...in the spheres of wealth, power, politics, banking is the English speaking Empire of Global Hegemony, "the USA.".. and It's many Treaties with most of the Nations of the World.


You are thinking of Babylon.

The Beast turns on Babylon, the city who had been riding the Beast.


The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

Revelation 17:16


In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!' "Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off.
When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, 'Was there ever a city like this great city?'
They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out: "'Woe! Woe, O great city, where all who had ships on the sea became rich through her wealth! In one hour she has been brought to ruin!

Revelations 18:17-19

Its the alpha city, a global financial center, political center, and cargo port.



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 12:01 PM
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Most of the people at the pinnacles of power, regardless if they are in Moscow, Washington or Damascus look to the writings of those "idiots" and often will make choices influenced by those writings.

Those "idiots" and their writings play a large role in geopolitics whether you like it or not.



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Krono
 


Most of the people at the pinnacles of power, regardless if they are in Moscow, Washington or Damascus look to the writings of those "idiots" and often will make choices influenced by those writings.

Those "idiots" and their writings play a large role in geopolitics whether you like it or not.



Then they really are idiots cause thanks to them millions of people have died through pointless wars.



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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You'd have to take into account the governments in power in the various nations. For example, France with Sarkozy at the helm are probably more likely to get involved than if the Socialists were in power (I'd assume anyway). Also, in Europe at least, there is little appetite for war, and I don't think much in the US would support another war, so unless NATO were directly attacked, its unlikely to happen. There's also still an imbalance, China is still too far behind the US to challenge them, and while Russia is becoming more assertive, they are still behind the heights they reached in the Soviet era in terms of military power and influence. Its also unlikely that all nations would jump in straight away, look at the two previous world wars, the US and Russia weren't involved until two years after WW2 started, several nations only 'joined' when invaded, and several joined in the years after the wars started.



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Who would line up with the USA?

en.wikipedia.org...

That's who....



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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There will never be another world war,humanity is suffering birth pains as we introduce the first TRUE GLOBAL DEMOCRACY humanity has ever witnessed.

A true democracy cannot exist without a global opportunity for every human being alive to have their voice heard,if EVERY HUMAN ON THE PLANET isnt involved 100% with the ability to participate,then A TRUE DEMOCRACY CANNOT EXIST.

There has always only been one path for humanity,the one towards a global community,religons were taking us there the NATURAL way,but they became to involved with government and industry and they betrayed themselves by becoming vulnerable to human weakness through these relationships,religons lost their TRUTH and now we have only the internet doing the job that was naturally entrusted to religon,the job of bringing humanity together,this will happen no matter what because it is our ultimate destiny,so the real question is,are we really ready to let ourselves be led into the future by a realty know as cyberspace,or do we want to choose to be led into the future by human voices and that reality,because the time to decide is now,history will be the only witness to the choices we are all under tremendous pressure to make on behalf of ourselves and humanity in the present.

If there is a major war,the countrys involved will only DELETE THEMSELVES FROM HUMANITIES FUTURE,because there is obviously no other path for humanity to take other than unity,a global conscience and reality supported by a true global democracy.

100 yrs from now no one will care because once humanity reaches a global reality ,ALL OF OUR HISTORYS WILL BE VIEWED WITH EMPATHY AND SAD EMOTIONS.


There will be no right or wrong,no heros of freedom,and no villains to blame,humanity will view history as a natural evolution towards a humanitarian global village and reality----nothing more,like looking back at puberty---what do you really remember from that time in your life,and wasnt that the time you went through the most changes ever???Funny how we seem to forget things when they are simply the natural path.

So lets get it right here,and now,this is human evolution,if religons would accept this same reality we would complete our evolutionary journey even faster.

All for one and ONE4ALL.



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Russia didnt drop communism for nothing,Russian mentality is to stick it out for the long haul,Russia dropped communism because they had a better offer somewhere else,and that offer was survival and participaction in a global village or destruction as humanity rolled over them,China is next,and this isnt a western value US thing,this is the evolution of humanity towards a global village,it is inevitable and unstoppable.

Think about it,America has been forced into this evolution more than anyone else including Russia AND China,America should have developed into a world dominion like the Romans did,BUT THEY DIDNT EXPAND AND FORCE THEIR VALUES ON THE WORLD,they were seemingly DESIGNED to do just that,BUT they didnt do it,why??Because they are as caught up in this evolution as every other country on Earth is,there was no plan in place because religons were supposed to naturally bring us together but they became rotten and the internet took their place,religons were supposed to bring us together peacefull,easily,and prepare us for our future as a global village,but we lost the easy religous way,and now we face the harder less human INTERNET way,its not to late to save our religous opportunity to come together but the internet is already more powerful than the vatican so even they cant turn this in another more natural direction without the help of another massive doctrine,religon needs sheer numbers now like never befor to fight off its own extinction.

There is only one joining force available to humanity to enable this evolution into a global village that is natural and humanitarian,this is religons,the Internet is a created un-natural surrogate mother for humanity,like a test tube birth,religon is like a natural birt or realisation,obviously we deserve to have a natural evolution,but the time is short and religons cant find their spark to carry them forward,they cannot trust ONE HUMAN to start the flame.


And it will take one human with the natural vision and motivation to spark this flame of progress.Someone has to SEE this themselves then be capable of "translating"this visionary perspective to all of humanity,funny thing is most top church leaders dont even belong there they are NOT the right people for the job,they have become administrators,if they werent they wouldnt be involved at top levels today,because this is the main rotten area in religons,the SPEAKERS have been silenced,the people who are best suited to "translating"for the masses have been silence .
Someone has to truly believe in this idealsim and truly see it as the only future for humanity beyond and above all others,an unwavering vision able to accept all dynamics and absorb and incorporate them into the same humanitarian global democracy future.

I dont think there will be another world war,just lots of small adjustments as humans are freed from oppressive governments,thats all,and those are growing pains not world wars.



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posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Only if the USA would be attacked by military forces. Look it up in the NATO's formation treaty.



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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Why do people place India as US ally?
Why would they declare war to their 2 big neighbours and partners?
Russia is also India's long time friend
they are part of BRICS and observer in the SCO
For the US and it's allies, India will be, at best, neutral in a WW3 scenario.
It would be actually the wisest move, if they avoid war they will emerge stronger on world stage.



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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When you say United States you are talking about the Government right? Not the people? Well A lot of people in the United States are going to be against the Government so yeah. I guess you can say the United States Government will be fighting this war maverick. I know this is a conspiracy site and all, but this is the last thing we need right now on our plate...



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by deadmessiah
You're still about half a world short of a world war lol.

Western Pac
U.S., Canada, England, France, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Germany, Finland, Belgium, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Iceland, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Greece, Israel, Portugal, Georgia, Spain, Madagascar, Thailand, Kenya, Mongolia, Saudi Arabia, The Philippines, Mexico, and Colombia.

Eastern Pac
Russia, China, Pakistan, India, Serbia, Turkey, Syria, Iran, Vietnam, North Korea, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Venezuela, Albania, Ukraine, Armenia, Estonia, Angola, Cuba, Bolivia, Peru, Panama, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Grenada, Singapore, Malaysia, Guatemala, and Palestine.

I know I didn't get every single country, but my point being, there is more to the world than just North America, Europe, and Eurasia.

As for speculation as to who would fall quickly, I'd say that "axis" powers would win South America as Colombia is pretty much the only American puppet country left in S.A. and I think the other countries would love to seize the opportunity to get rid of American interests at that time.

I think China's main attention would have to be on Japan and Taiwan, and vice versa. S. Korea would of course be dealing with N. Korea. Mongolia would most likely also be dealing primarily with China. Russia and the old Eastern Pac countries would of course be locked in combat with Western Europe, and Russia alone on it's western borders with U.S. and Canada.

Australia would be dealing with Malaysia and Singapore. The U.S. would be fighting Russia from both sides of the border as would Canada. I don't think Mexico would play in as a factor very much. Cuba's attack capabilities have really deteriorated since the 70's, but could be used as a staging point by the Axis powers with air and navel power as was the fear during the Cold War.

Africa? Meh. I can't really say as there is already so much infighting, genocides, and civil wars going on. I guess you could say they're already in an unofficial continental war.

India will be focused on Pakistan primarily under the current relations they have. I'm a little unsure about Pakistan though, I say there's a good chance they'd switch sides against us. In that event, they'd become India's ally.

Switzerland? Neutral lol

If it's a nuclear war, both sides lose. If massive EMP strikes occur, you may come to wonder if the Bible is correct when it mentions "3 ft of blood" during WW3 as it will be down to guns, knives, clubs, and fists. It would be whoever had the most men and training that would win. I would definitely not rule out the U.S.'s space weapons though, and this could be our ace in the hole in the event of an EMP type electrical black out IF they had automated systems or men in place in space and out of EMP strike capabilities.

Do I have too much free time on my hands? YES lol
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Hi, would just like to add that imo Australia won't be dealing with Singapore and Malaysia. They are part of the Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA) which includes the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore & Malaysia. Besides, why would Australia go against Singapore & Malaysia? Makes no sense eh



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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Ok here is my question on the issue, and maybe theory. Why cannot the USA, EU, Canada, allign with China, and RU, would'nt this be the ideal situation? as these are all the most advanced countries in the world. Bring along India, as they are a diplomatic people and have a huge population. Is it possible China, US, and RU are actually planning this? Why would they want too go against the US, and EU when we fuel their (China) economy as consumer's we provide them with more and more money, boosting their economy greatly.

Why cant the super-nations just over-take the oil and gold rich land's and dividend the resources? I dont feel the common people of the lands deserve this... But the selfishness of man proves that someone always wants too hoard the resources such as (oil, diamonds, gold, money).....

I'm hoping the US, EU/Un gives Israel the go-ahead too just start launching nukes at Iran/Syria/RU if things do go down... while everyone else does-NOT join the assault, Except for countrie's on the recieving end of things. If the US does not fire, in today's day of high-tech the RU, and Chinese would certainly see this and not progress too MAD between these countries? Instead letting Israel deal with their neighbors who hate them, and possibly (definently if they attack Russia) will be destroyed also? that would be Ideal for WW3 too me.. Because it only involves 3 or 4 countrie's not World-wide destruction.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 06:54 PM
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Listed from strongest to weakest alliances:

United States, Israel, United Kingon and the Commonwealth, Canada, Japan, South Korea, India, Mexico, France, Germany, Australia/New Zealand, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Poland, Denmark, Switzerland, Netherlands, Norway, Belgium, Luxembourg, Phillipines, Spain, Thialand, Austria, Egypt, Jordan, South Africa, Czechoslovakia, Finland, Panama, Montenegro, Serbia, Hungary, Ethiopia, Peru, Hondorus, Brazil, Argentina, Yugoslavia, Guatamala, El Salvador, Venezuela, Chile, Costa Rica, Bolivia, Columbia, Haiti, and Afganhistan

Japan is a very strong ally with the US, and has a long and bad history with China. All of North America and most of South America would side with the Allies, but most likely not deploy any soldiers and just supply the Allies. France, UK, Phillipines, Germany, Spain, and Israel all have very strong ties with America, and many other European and African nations are strongly allied with them. Italy and Greece will want to end their debt with China and Saudia Arabia (but they might side with them for exchange of all debt cleared).

Listed from largest to smallest players on the Axis:
Iran, North Korea, Russia, China, Vietnam, Mongolia, Libya, Bahrain, Cyprus, Kuwait, Iraq, Saudia Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Turkey, Yemen, United Arab Emirates, and most of the Greater Middle Eastern nations.

North Korea and Vietnam are still sour of America. China will want to take the debt that is theirs.

However, this could all be ended with one atomic bomb.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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India has an even stronger connection with the UK, and America is India's largest trading partner and would not risk losing it's relationship with both of them in exchange of going broke by siding with Russia.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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I think the U.S. would target it's self if it had too..Matter of fact the new bill being voted on by the Senate will allow just that.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by demonologist842012
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You are probably right but i wish someone who actually had a brain would become president. The president and people in office now are incredibly dumb and are just power hungry,money grabbing,oil stealing pigs who think they can mess up the whole country and get away with it. The younger people need to step up and fix things not tear things up.
Really? How is the current regime any different than the last one?



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by TheOracle
Why do people place India as US ally?
Why would they declare war to their 2 big neighbours and partners?
Russia is also India's long time friend
they are part of BRICS and observer in the SCO
For the US and it's allies, India will be, at best, neutral in a WW3 scenario.
It would be actually the wisest move, if they avoid war they will emerge stronger on world stage.


India has defense treaty with Russia atleast until 2020 when it comes up for renewal. Just few days ago India refused a proposal to join a bloc of US-Australia against China.

India needs to make more friends in Asia and Middle East rather than wipe the rears of the AngloSaxon nations. Wonder what role US and UK played when India was and is, fighting the terrorism sponsored by America's best buddy named Pakistan.

SCO bloc should soon gain military understanding in addition to current political and economics based.



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