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What I take from this is that when Americans have a legitimate concern they should be quiet and be grateful that they are not being brutalized by those who disagree with their plight.
Originally posted by CodeRed3D
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Simply put... I don't know where to start in correcting you here. There is just so much that you've gotten wrong in this short sentence that it would probably take me all night and two full posts to make a credible attempt at it.
With such a cheap shot, you have no choice but to make an attempt at it.
I say OWS is fabricated at the top level and will provide you the results that you don't want. I'd be more than happy to entertain your differences. Maybe I'd learn something. With over 6,000 posts you should have something to say, right?
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
It's hard to have a "top level" in a movement without a hierarchy. I understand that the people who hate OWS tend to drift strongly towards an authoritarian mindset and can't really conceive of a movement NOT being a tiered entity with a clear chain of command... but that's not really how this is working, no matter the limitations on your (otherwise very active) imagination.
Originally posted by CodeRed3D
Don't get me wrong, I do sympathize with those who feel genuinely blighted by their circumstances. Their attachment to OWS is human nature. Let's set aside the insults for a moment and gather the facts.
In my estimation the fact that OWS was a planned event from months in advance is a rather dangerous fact to overlook. - source
I really feel sorry for those who are genuinely connected to the ideal, but I do feel that many of these people have been grossly groomed for the wrong purpose.
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by ILikeStars
One branch of the military alone gets more funding than all the schools in America. The Navy.
It’s not the governments roll to provide education. The government should get its crooked, indoctrinating paws out of education immediately.
It IS the Governments responsibility to defend the country.
I’ll let you figure out why the money is spent the way it’s spent.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Well, first off, your link provides no such information. But yes, the idea of a symbolic protest on Wall Street, set for September 17, was concocted on Adbusters in July. However, we've kind of moved pretty far from a one-day symbolic protest at one place, don't you think? We're looking at the idea being picked up and carried all over the place.
Now my question is, why do you think it's "dangerous?" Do you believe that everything should be absolute last moment, drop of the hat spontaneous? Of course not. Protest on any scale requires getting people out there to protest. This requires foreknowledge on their part.
Originally posted by CodeRed3D
So yes the link does "provide the information".
What needs to be done is for corporate interests to be completely removed from government. No amount of OWS will do that.
The movement is dangerous because too many people are focusing on what they don't want.
Instead they are walking right into custody on their own volition. When the jails fill up, believe me, there is plenty of other space to relocate.
Instead of occupying Wall Street and harassing the cops
and shop owners, it might be more prudent to occupy the lobbyists who are corrupting your local officials.
Originally posted by AllUrChips
I love the first picture. That screaming idiot looking occupier who is AGAINST the corporations had a STARBUCKS in his hand:lol 5 dollars for 16oz. of mostly water! Now whos laughing?edit on 24-11-2011 by AllUrChips because: (no reason given)
Not to mention his pricey looking furry jacket.edit on 24-11-2011 by AllUrChips because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Oh yes, those poor, inoffensive cops, just on patrol, minding their own business... occasionally pegging marines in the head with tear gas canisters, hosing random people with chemical weapons, when all of a sudden, GASP! protestors yelling "shame!" Won't someone think of hte poor, poor cops...
Originally posted by CodeRed3D
I'm sorry, but if this was a conversation about equal rights, then the Unions wouldn't have touched OWS with a ten foot pole. I think you're in the wrong thread.edit on 25-11-2011 by CodeRed3D because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ILikeStars
For every $1 in federal taxes the state of Illinois pays into the federal goverment the residents of Illinois sees 25 cents of federal assistance.