OWS Makes People Sick

For anyone who is a student of history and thinking back to the bubonic plague and how disease gets spread seem to remember rats spread that disease around and killed a lot of people.

Health concerns in a major metropolitan area is no laughing matter or one that should be dismissed.

Yeah OK, to be perfectly reasonable -- chances are, some protesters have defecated outside, and it's really disgusting and people shouldn't do that. OK? Duh.

But keep in mind that over the last month and a half or whatever, this movement has involved thousands upon thousands upon thousands (etc) of citizens so far in the US.
Yep, some of them have crapped in buckets. Disgusting.

But there really are people of all different political alignments protesting the same general problem (even if their preferred solutions vastly differ.) Do you really think the MAJORITY of these thousands and thousands of people are crapping all over the place?

Do we call every liberal a welfare-sucking lazy bum, every conservative a racist homophobic bible-thumper, , middle eastern a terrorist?
Well, sure, you can post pictures of times when these these things happened, and it sucks, shame on those people. But haven't we moved past the days when we pick the worst few from a crowd and cast stones at the whole lot?

I can only speak on behalf of those at my city's occupation which I have visited a few times and have seen impressive cleanliness and organization. I am not saying that one person was responsible for every public defacation out there. I'm just saying, considering how many people nationwide have been involved w/OWS protests, show me proof that they're all pooping all over the place willy-nilly.

reply to post by neo96


Oh...you have...i've pointed it plenty of times before anyway. You've forgotten?

Are you denying this?

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by neo96

 

Someone point out in the Constitution where it says urinate and deficate in the streets because mommy told them they are special? Waiting.

Would you rather them use their second amendment rights? Would you defend them if they were packing?

Really, most of these arguments have nothing to do with right or wrong...but everything to do with how you feel about the protesters themselves.

For instance, Neo thinks they are maggots and leeches...so obviously...he's going to demean them.

edit on 2-11-2011 by David9176 because: (no reason given)

Quote it make the claim prove anywhere where i said such.

Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by beezzer

 

I did answer. It is part of a Supreme Court ruling. But again, I am no lawyer. You can do your own gd homework or wait a fracking while for me to get it!

You said the Supreme court ruling described how the infringements of one persons rights nullifies another persons rights. I am referring to your claims of a "right to health".

Or did I misinterpret your post, and was the Supreme Court ruling referring to the right to health?

edit on 2-11-2011 by TupacShakur because: (no reason given)

Yes I did say that. When I get a copy of the actual court precedings, I'll post it. Keep your skirt on!

reply to post by neo96


BTW...ATS search absolutely sucks.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Really, all someone needs to do is read this entire thread. Remembered this one well...unfortunately took forever to find it. While you didn't call the OWS protesters themselves "parasites" in this as it was before the protests, the people who most likely are OWS protesters would fall under your criteria. Read all the posts.

Regardless of all this......are you willing to state that you don't believe these people are leeches, parasites, lazy?

If not, explain why.

reply to post by neo96


You're in practically every "occupy" thread that's on this website, constantly bashing the protesters. Denying that would be like me denying that I support Ron Paul or that I support the occupy protests.

reply to post by TupacShakur


Supporting Ron Paul while supporting the OWS protest is quite the oxymoron. You can't be part of a protest that wants to increase the role of government and increase the welfare to the poor while simultaneously targeting one specific population of the country for higher taxation .....

And then support a candidate that wants to end nearly every entitlement program, restrict government regulation of the markets and supports a far lower tax rate including for the rich...

See. Oxymoron.

sighs...
some people are so low.
what will they come up with next?

reply to post by David9176


What is the topic here? Is it Neo?

No.

reply to post by Rockpuck

Supporting Ron Paul while supporting the OWS protest is quite the oxymoron. You can't be part of a protest that wants to increase the role of government and increase the welfare to the poor while simultaneously targeting one specific population of the country for higher taxation .....

And then support a candidate that wants to end nearly every entitlement program, restrict government regulation of the markets and supports a far lower tax rate including for the rich...

I don't support Ron Paul on every single issue. But when I put his positions up against those of the other candidates, he is the best choice in my opinion. I support him mainly because of his stance on ending all of the wars, actually following the Constitution, and auditing the Fed. There are other reasons that I support him, and there are things that I disagree with him on, but I'd rather have a guy who I don't see eye to eye with on every issue be president than some banker puppet like Mitt Romney who is going to be a complete disaster.

I support OWS because our political system is corrupted. Politicians and even presidents are nothing more than puppets who are bought and paid for. Our government policies often go to benefit the wealthy elite, while the poor and middle class are left in the dust. Lobbying and legalized bribery isn't enough, big bankers even get elected to positions in our government through which they can craft legislation which goes to benefit their wallets.

The economic crisis was caused by reckless business practices which were allowed due to a lack of regulations that began since Reagan was in office, so that tells me our political system has been hijacked since the 1980s. I don't want a government that looks out for the profits of big banks and the well being of corporations which are now granted the same rights as people.

Millions of people lose their homes and jobs, and not only is nobody held accountable, but they continue on with their business practices, get to continue making tens of millions of dollars in bonuses, and continue to be elected to positions within our government? Not on my watch

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by TupacShakur

 

Supporting Ron Paul while supporting the OWS protest is quite the oxymoron. You can't be part of a protest that wants to increase the role of government and increase the welfare to the poor while simultaneously targeting one specific population of the country for higher taxation .....

And then support a candidate that wants to end nearly every entitlement program, restrict government regulation of the markets and supports a far lower tax rate including for the rich...

See. Oxymoron.

I think it's funny that just because some socialists/communists/nazis/insert fringe political group here decided to come out in support of OWS and their message of anti-corruption and anti-crony capitalism, it somehow means that these people represent the whole movement..

It's too easy.

Anytime you disagree with a political group, all you have to do in order to discredit them is attend their events and voice some unpopular opinions..

Double post :/

reply to post by TupacShakur


Indeed, but OWS has lost that message of being against corruption and a failed political system by alienating a huge portion of the population with "give me more freebies and eat the rich!" mentality.

Time for a new ... more moderate? protest..

Hopefully one that doesn't camp in their own #.

reply to post by Rockpuck

Indeed, but OWS has lost that message of being against corruption and a failed political system by alienating a huge portion of the population with "give me more freebies and eat the rich!" mentality.

I agree, plus lots of people within the protests don't focus on political corruption as much as health care and foreclosures and things like that. I mean the foreclosures are tied into it, because many were caused by the economic collapse, but what the hell does health care have to do with anything? People have been talking about racial discrimination in the local community at occupykc more than political corruption or auditing the Fed lately, and that really disturbs me.

Every occupy movement around the country should go to their local politicians, demand that they sign a written agreement which says they won't accept corporate money or won't endorse legislation that allows that in politics. The politicians who aren't on board are either corrupted, or allow corruption to occur, so their names could be added to a database online. Before people vote, they look at the database, see who is corrupt, and don't vote for them. That's clearly not going to solve all of this countries problems, but that would be a good start.

I'm not against somebody using their intelligence and hard work to make millions of dollars. If somebody plays by the rules and gets rich, good for them, they're living the American dream. But if you cheat the system by making the rules, then screw over millions of people while amassing a fortune, and continuing to make the rules using that fortune you've amassed, it creates an endless cycle of corruption. That's the main reason I'm a part of occupykc.

Hopefully one that doesn't camp in their own #.

That's just one of the hundreds of occupy protests. Sure, things might be ugly at occupywallstreet, but that doesn't mean the conditions are the exact same for all of the other protests around the globe.

reply to post by TupacShakur


Indeed, if they could stay to nonpartisan issues like corruption and so on I'd be all for it (again) .. but I don't see that happening. I think we just need to start over from scratch.

reply to post by neo96

What is the topic here? Is it Neo? No.

That's your typical reply....never wanting to be responsible for your own comments. I've seen you do it many times. "The thread isn't about me!"

Oh wait, I'm talking about you again!

Guess no one is allowed to criticize your comments.

You'd make a great dictator.

reply to post by David9176


Ats terms and conditions don't like tough the topic is OWS and you had your shot at those comments the only thing your doing is deflection from the topic here.

Thanks and:

Why do they camp there? I mean, most city protests are weekend events. People go about their regular lives (no matter how irregular that may be) and attend the 'events' (if you can call them that) during their 'off' hours.

A home or public building would be 'condemned' (at least temporarily) in those circumstances.

They can't install showers or dig a six foot deep latrine in a city or private park.

I'm sure it doesn't help their mood any.

It's bad for the health of the protestors most of all.

Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by beezzer

 

That is terrible logic, you don't lose your rights just like that. :shk:

edit on 2-11-2011 by TupacShakur because: (no reason given)

Amazing how quick someone like beezer is so eager to want to take away the rights of others. Freedom of speech as long as it's endorsed by right wing conservatives. A Slippery slope.