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Originally posted by American Mad Man
In nuclear war both sides are destroyed.
In a conventional war, the US has the advantage.
First off, the US, as was stated before, basically has Russia surrounded.
o no few crappy bases with 4 f16's
The US would have the initiative, and would be on the offensive, so Russias industrial system would be much more devastated then the USs - if they were even touched at all.
russia has a good force of cruise missile/long range missile carrier forces to cripple you
The US also has THE MOST IMPORTANT ADVANTAGE IN WAR. That my friends, is LOGISTICS. The US can get what it wants where it wants faster and on a larger scale then anyone else. We can support forward fighting better then anyone else.
not on russian soil you dont, you will end up like hitler and napoleon
As far as comparing the forces....
NAVY - Clear advantage to the US. Supercarrier battle groups, the quitest subs and more of them, the best surface fleet. That would be the greatest US advantage.
russia will destroy these poor battle groups with their anti-shipping forces, ie the subs and naval aviation like tu-22m3 etc.., us battle groups would sink pretty fast, just expensive toys for invading undefended #holes
Air War - slight advantage to the US. The US fighter fleet is a bit long in the tooth but has much better avionics and is much better maintained.
air war over russia is impossible, it is the most heavily defended nation with interceptors and actual AD network, you would be shot out from the skies
The US has better tanks, but the Russians have more to throw at the US. I do believe though that their advantage on the ground would be cancelled by the US advantage in the air.
BS, better tanks my ass, t80 series have better protection then your incumbered tractor tank which can get destroyed by simple 40 year old rpgs on the sides, also air advantage my ass, your awacs would dissapear from the earth by long range anti-awac missiles and aircraft like mig-31, and without awacs amer aircraft are pretty useless, migs-31 and other russian aircraft can even act without ground control, can also be uplinked..
OUTCOME:
us navy battle groups sinked, russia nukes nato on the first week, world is wasteland
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Your right hellraiser - Russia simply outclasses the US in the air, on land and at sea. What was I thinking????
All hail Russia - the TRUE military power in the world!!!!!!!
Originally posted by SiberianTiger
moronic crap
Originally posted by Hellraiser
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Your right hellraiser - Russia simply outclasses the US in the air, on land and at sea. What was I thinking????
All hail Russia - the TRUE military power in the world!!!!!!!
No, if usa tries to invade russia usa is dead, same goes with russia, its impossible to invade these nations..
Originally posted by SiberianTiger
Please provide the PROOF what I just posted is a LIE and if ya can't I'm gonna try to do every thing to have you banned FOR YOUR LYING remark
Originally posted by Mr Carburetor
Originally posted by Hellraiser
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Your right hellraiser - Russia simply outclasses the US in the air, on land and at sea. What was I thinking????
All hail Russia - the TRUE military power in the world!!!!!!!
No, if usa tries to invade russia usa is dead, same goes with russia, its impossible to invade these nations..
As an American I give you great credit for this statement. No matter how the world is viewed at this time............The US and Russia are still the big boys. IT would be impossible for homeland invasion on either side.
Originally posted by roflcopter
UNITED
STATES
FOR
TEH
WIN!
[edit on 11-3-2005 by roflcopter]
Originally posted by Raphael
* Current Russian fighters are already on par with America’s best fighter, the F-15. Europe's and Russia's newest class of fighters will surpass the F-15; they are set to roll off production lines by 2005
what ,thats why su-27 series were made.. and still surpass all european aircraft along with jsf, only the f15 are on par with it, and f22 outclasses it in many areas like lo tech and computer technology..
* At least three foreign aircraft threaten to surpass the F-15’s performance in the near future: the French Rafale, the Eurofighter 2000 and the Russian Su-35.
was done lone time ago already, su-35 capability actually surpass above mentioned aircraft and close up there with f22 Some foreign aircraft are already at parity with the F-15 you got to be kidding me
* Nations are already denying America access to airspace around the globe by obtaining low-cost, but sophisticated, surface-to-air missile systems
you mean defending themselves from american hegemony
* Highly capable surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems pose a formidable challenge to the F-15’s survivability. Advanced SAM systems, because of their relatively low cost, are a quick and easy way for countries to modernize their air defense systemswell no sh
It's a good thing the US already has a fighter which makes the F15, F16, and even F117's look like childs play.. What do they call this vehicle of the future?
f15/16 are not childs play and are one of the best aircraft still in the world..
FA/22 Raptor
many equivelents are coming out, we shall see how they will compare with it, i suspect russians will come up with something on par of f22 with the indians financing and software