Proof Of Infiltrators and Provocateurs At OWS Oakland

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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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The pattern is really similar to the Kent State riots. Communist subversives were on campus then, talking to the students. Bernadine Dohrn and SDS were there talking to students during the months prior to the riot. SDS set fires to buildings and rushed the National Guard.
There already have been some skirmishes at OWS. OH yah and Bernadine is involved with the Occupy Chicago and also she is an ACORN activist.
Here's an account of Kent 25thaviation.org...


All parties can be involved, if some Alqueda joined OWS then means OWS was a terrorist cell all along? Of course not. ACORN does not speak for me or OWS, the citizens speak for OWS. We invite everyone even Santa Clause to join OWS. It is a independent movement.

Violence CAN happen, anything is possible.

Like someone said a "part does not represent the whole
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed

Originally posted by pianopraze
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Thus it begins.

ATS seems to be full of threads of bought out people loudly shouting against OWS... when the ATS poll has shown that most of ATS is for OWS.

There is a war on for your mind.

Don't let the disinformation rule the day. Go down and see for your self. Watch the independent media.


There does seem to be a lot of anti OWS sentiment lately, and a lot of the reasoning behind this is ridiculous at times. The propaganda war is clearly in full effect.
Indeed it is in full effect. Have you been over to GLP lately? Wow, it's just beyond laughable. Now GLP even has demeaning images (demeaning for OWS protestors) at the bottom of every page. A few days ago one of the images said something like "Occupy a Job". That is laughable coming from a douche like Trinity who sits at his computer all day making money from what other people post. Their latest image really takes the cake though:



What I find really interesting is the stark contrast between ATS and GLP when it comes to our perspectives on OWS. These are two of the largest conspiracy forums on the internet, it's interesting to note how differently the membership perceive certain events. However, the perceptions of the GLP membership are clearly warped and tainted by the administration. At least the administration of ATS isn't censoring certain opinions or pushing certain opinions about OWS (well I haven't seen it happen yet).
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by pianopraze

Thus it begins.

ATS seems to be full of threads of bought out people loudly shouting against OWS... when the ATS poll has shown that most of ATS is for OWS.


Bought off people?... LOL Why is it that everytime people decide to think for themselves and not follow whatever movement springs up there are some ignorant people who claim "they are bought off"...

I will ask this again, why did the OWS protesters have to create their own movement?

There is already a movement with at least over 2 million people which started YEARS before the LEFTWINGERS decided to make OWS...

BTW, the ATS polls shows that what was it, over 20,000 not registered users voted, meanwhile a couple thousands or so from ATS voted... I wonder how many times certain members voted as members, and then as guests....



Originally posted by pianopraze

There is a war on for your mind.


Yeah there is... if you want DO YOUR OWN FREAKING INVESTIGATION, but find out who is exactly the organizers, and the money behind the OWS movement. You don't have to take the word from some BLOG like some people were doing trying to dismiss the Tea Party movement. The information can be found even in leftwinger sources, and it clearly shows who is behind this movement... Just a hint...it is not "the 99% of the people in the U.S."...





Originally posted by pianopraze
Don't let the disinformation rule the day. Go down and see for your self. Watch the independent media.


Again, do your own investigation if you don't want to trust the links people give you... And investigation doesn't mean following any idiots that comes along claiming "we are the 99%"... more so when such a movement cannot get more than a couple thousand people in a few cities...



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier

All parties can be involved, if some Alqueda joined OWS then means OWS was a terrorist cell all along? Of course not. ACORN does not speak for me or OWS, the citizens speak for OWS. We invite everyone even Santa Clause to join OWS. It is a independent movement.

Violence CAN happen, anything is possible.

Like someone said a "part does not represent the whole
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You don't speak for the people, you speak for the leftwing cause for a world socialist dictatorship... That's the movement you joined...

Keep telling yourself Soros, and other corrupted leftwingers and leftwinger groups don't speak for you when they are the organizers, and the partners who put these events together worldwide...



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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GLP is a joke, the vulgar bile spewed there is a turn off.. sad corner of the internet. Even the moderators are trolls, the mind numbing stupidity there is amazing. I have to honestly say a good portion of disinformation on the internet from Elenin crap to Elvis sightings can be sourced back to GLP. If you think most ATS trolls post regularly there then you are right.


Newly registered user/expert/troll anyone?

Off topic my bad had to be said
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier

All parties can be involved, if some Alqueda joined OWS then means OWS was a terrorist cell all along? Of course not. ACORN does not speak for me or OWS, the citizens speak for OWS. We invite everyone even Santa Clause to join OWS. It is a independent movement.

Violence CAN happen, anything is possible.

Like someone said a "part does not represent the whole
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You don't speak for the people, you speak for the leftwing cause for a world socialist dictatorship... That's the movement you joined...


LMFAO I am independent thank you very much. I speak for THE LITTLE GUY! The working class blue collar worker yes. You are projecting your political propaganda on a movement of individuals that dont give two cents about your politics/political trolling. I am not interested in your right/left wing duality kind of thinking. I am interested in in justification, our rights and see that the people are no longer extorted by elite pigs. That goes for Republicans and Democrats. Dont tell me what "party" i belong to because you simply disagree.

World socialist dictatorship? That is a stretch. The red scare still really got you rattled eh?



Keep telling yourself Soros, and other corrupted leftwingers and leftwinger groups don't speak for you when they are the organizers, and the partners who put these events together worldwide...


I dont have to tell myself anything. I am not there for Soros, Soros did not pay for my gas, Soros did not buy me lunch and Soros did not make me go there. I went for the sake of Protesting Wall Street Bail outs and the great banking scam. The (R) and the (D) are both responsible for an abundance of things wrong with this country. It is this political tripe fighting Crips and Bloods type of propaganda that has undermined this country's progress in the first place.



Poor tea party Cry me a River and Build me a Bridge (never mind the bridge sorry cant do that we dont have the money now we gave it to the Bankers)
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
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You were never named yet you are explaining/defending yourself (not addressing the OP's topic) as if your are guilty lol.

Good Cop Bad Cop would call this an instance of guilt

Just sayin

Usually when someone says "someone in this room stole my wallet" the first person to say "it wasn't me" is the the guilty party.



Whatever. No I was not expressly named. It just gets silly when people make claims that such and such has to be a troll/paid shill/disinfo/etc ad nauseum, simply for having a difference of opinion. I'm just setting the record straight.

It is ironic however, that Craigslist did have an ad to pay people to protest at OWS.



I dont have to tell myself anything. I am not there for Soros, Soros did not pay for my gas, Soros did not buy me lunch and Soros did not make me go there.

Nor did Koch bros pay me to attend Tea Party rallies and they didn't pay me to have my signs made up at Kinkos either.

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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 01:19 AM
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It works both ways


Yeah i can (anyone can) make an add on Craigslist for people to start violence if i wanted , then claim that the police made an add on Craigslist for people to turn OWS in to a mob on ATS too. Isn't that neat?

What a credible instance of evidence


This is also REAL
gawker.com...

But it is somehow suspicious to you - Craigslist add, yet the prospect of funded shills/dis-info ops is for the tin hatters right? You do know it is public knowledge that the government does in fact employ people to influence the public like pointed out here www.abovetopsecret.com... Thanks to this member.



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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 01:32 AM
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The Craigslist ad makes me suspicious?: It was posted by more than one person here. You really are paranoid aren't you.


While it is entirely possible if not probable that the Obama admin has employed people to spread disinfo, it doesn't mean that everybody here who has a difference of opinion is a paid disinfo agent.
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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The Craigslist ad makes me suspicious?: It was posted by more than one person here. You really are paranoid aren't you.


I did not say it made you suspicious, i said you find it suspicious. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Paranoid? No, skeptical and critical thinker YES i pay attention

It was posted copy a pasta here great, does not lend it any credence then the first time posted

Maybe work on your reading comprehension?



While it is entirely possible if not probable that the Obama admin has employed people to spread disinfo, it doesn't mean that everybody here who has a difference of opinion is a paid disinfo agent.


You are putting words in my mouth, I did not say and never said that everybody here who has a difference of opinion is a paid disinfo agentwww.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com... I insinuated that there was a hand full of members here that have the modus operand of a shill/straw man/disinformation operative in order to curb/influence/control topics here.


Then you proved my point


Who says Obummer's admin funds these ops? Maybe the MIC or Corporations or even Banks payroll them? However yes under Obummer's watch they are indeed funded like here www.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 01:55 AM
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Everything old is new again. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

This kind of infiltration, misdirection, and counterintelligence has been going on since popular movements have existed. You need look no further back in time than the popular movements of the 60s like Weather Underground to find examples of authorities (up to and including the FBI and CIA) infiltrating groups to gather intel and manipulate them into compromising and then, eventually, illegal activities.

The greatest strengths of popular movements like Occupy are passion and unity. The greatest weaknesses of popular movements like Occupy are disorganization, lack of focus, and naivete. They can and will exploit these weaknesses. They always have.

Just my two cents. Peace.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier

LMFAO I am independent thank you very much. I speak for THE LITTLE GUY! The working class blue collar worker yes.


You don't speak for me, and I am neither a millionaire, or even close to it nor part of the world elite... i am also CERTAIN that you do not speak for "the people of the world"...

This is the problem with your kind... You all seem to think that you have the right to claim that you are speaking for the rest of the world...

You should make yourself better acquainted with the word "individual"... Obviously you have no idea what it means...

Every person on this planet is a unique individual, there are no two people that think exactly the same way, hence there is no way that you, nor your movement can speak for the rest of the world...



Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
You are projecting your political propaganda on a movement of individuals that dont give two cents about your politics/political trolling. I am not interested in your right/left wing duality kind of thinking. I am interested in in justification, our rights and see that the people are no longer extorted by elite pigs. That goes for Republicans and Democrats. Dont tell me what "party" i belong to because you simply disagree.


I am not projecting MY political propaganda as you call it... I am a die hard supporter and defender of the United States Constitution as it was written by the founding fathers...

If the people of other countries want their governments to defend their Constitution, I support them, but I DO NOT speak for them and neither do you...



Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
World socialist dictatorship? That is a stretch. The red scare still really got you rattled eh?


Really?... a movement that wants a global change giving more power to the state "in the name of the workers"?...

A movement which has leftwing groups, and socialist rich elites as the organizers and partners who created this movement?...

Heck, your movement is even using the same old logos of socialism/communism but you want to claim it is not?...





www.lewrockwell.com...


news.anon210.com...


Shame, in the above you can't see the pretty RED words...
occupywallst.org...

Everywhere I look your movement has very similar logos to socialist/communist logos... I wonder why...

Perhaps they have something to do with logos like the following?...

Malaysian socialists clenched-fist logo approved

links.org.au...

Socialist Fist Logos










Soviet Fist

www.neofactionapparel.com...

Yeah...your movement has NOTHING to do with socialism/communism and the desire for a One World Socialist Regime...





Originally posted by Unknown Soldier

I dont have to tell myself anything. I am not there for Soros, Soros did not pay for my gas, Soros did not buy me lunch and Soros did not make me go there. I went for the sake of Protesting Wall Street Bail outs and the great banking scam. The (R) and the (D) are both responsible for an abundance of things wrong with this country. It is this political tripe fighting Crips and Bloods type of propaganda that has undermined this country's progress in the first place.


No, you want for the rest of the people to pay for your gas, your college education, your house, and everything else...

Your PROGRESS is what brought us to where we are... after all it was thanks to PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS that the Feds and the IRS were put in power back in 1913...



Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Poor tea party Cry me a River and Build me a Bridge (never mind the bridge sorry cant do that we dont have the money now we gave it to the Bankers)
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Cry?..
Naa, your movement hasn't gathered the numbers that the Tea Party has gathered, and you NEVER will...


And the Tea Party wasn't the one who gave the power to the bankers... it was YOUR PROGRESSIVE movement...


Get out of the closet already...

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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:08 AM
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Uh huh. Well the first one the fist is likely more of a throw back to the black power fist symbol since they use the Heron reference.

The rest are crappy graphics that are likely made by some stupid kids that think the socialism symbol/socialism itself is cool. Again doesn't represent the whole group. I can assure you.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:15 AM
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Heck, i gave link to the OFFICIAL Occupy websites and they have those logos... The revolution is ALWAYS in Red, and the color they use EVERYWHERE is RED... The Occupy San Francisco also has a star, even if it is black, since it can't be red because you wouldn't be able to see it...

GIVE UP... We know what your movement is all about...



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier

LMFAO I am independent thank you very much. I speak for THE LITTLE GUY! The working class blue collar worker yes.


You don't speak for me, and I am neither a millionaire, or even close to it nor part of the world elite... i am also CERTAIN that you do not speak for "the people of the world"...


I did not claim to speak for the people of the world, or you. I speak for the LITTLE GUY at OWS, unless you are a blue collar guy at OWS?

You people? What is that exactly?

You are not a member of the elite, never asked but if you insist you aren't then good for you.


This is the problem with your kind... You all seem to think that you have the right to claim that you are speaking for the rest of the world...


Your kind? What is that exactly?

You all seem to think that you have the right to claim that you are speaking for the rest of the world

OK?


You should make yourself better acquainted with the word "individual"... Obviously you have no idea what it means...


Since we all seem to think we have the right to speak for the rest of the world (we all think alike) to you apparently it is you that does not understand individuality.


Every person on this planet is a unique individual, there are no two people that think exactly the same way, hence there is no way that you, nor your movement can speak for the rest of the world...


This contradicts your statement claiming we all think we speak for the world. Because "us people" are all the same right?

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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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Oh boy... Really? You call yourselves the 99% and claim every one of us, except the millionaires, billionaires, and trillionaires, are part of "the 99%" which happens to be YOUR movement... Your people claim to speak for the the 99% in the world yet you are now claiming that you don't?...
Talk about being confused...
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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No.. That's the thing. I do actually know what it's all about.
You just use the internet. I actually know.

I have been to the assemblies. I actually know. I just posted links to local papers interviews with local occupy protesters. Try that instead of finding pictures anyone can photoshop.

There is literally too much to explain to you for you to understand. You want to learn something go look through some of the occupy threads I have posted in tonight. I can't go through it again right now.
Just know that you are wrong, and the answers are there should you actually want to learn something.
If you can navigate ATS you can find them. I'm being serious too. I'm not a socialist I'm a libertarian. So I am not trying to trick you. I am just trying to get the real message out and push it through all this b.s. that socialists are attaching to the movement.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:33 AM
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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I am not projecting MY political propaganda as you call it... I am a die hard supporter and defender of the United States Constitution as it was written by the founding fathers...


yet you oppose the right to peacefully assemble - OWS


If the people of other countries want their governments to defend their Constitution, I support them, but I DO NOT speak for them and neither do you...


Maybe i don't speak for everyone, but can say i speak for those i agree with that being the basic gist of why OWS is there in the first place.




Really?... a movement that wants a global change giving more power to the state "in the name of the workers"?...


Wrong


A movement which has leftwing groups, and socialist rich elites as the organizers and partners who created this movement?...


I see more Ron Paul people there then lefties, I met several republicans there as well. Again you are projecting your right wing vs left wing politics on a movement that is not officially political. A movement that gets endorsed by several entities, organizations and can and will receive more. This is the same tripe the MSM pulled with the tea party claiming it was all right wingers. You are doing the same here.


Heck, your movement is even using the same old logos of socialism/communism you you want to claim it is not?...



Shame, in the above you can't see the pretty RED words...
occupywallst.org...

Everywhere I look your movement has very similar logos to socialist/communist logos... I wonder why...

Perhaps they have something to do with logos like the following?...

Malaysian socialists clenched-fist logo approved

links.org.au...


www.neofactionapparel.com...

Yeah...your movement has NOTHING to do with socialism/communism and the desire for a One World Socialist Regime...



Now i know what you might mean when you say "you people" i guess the black panther party must be the organizers since the also had the same logo?
en.wikipedia.org...


The raised fist (also known as the clenched fist) is a universal symbol of solidarity and support.[1] It is also used as a salute to express unity, strength, defiance, or resistance. The salute dates back to ancient Assyria as a symbol of resistance in the face of violence.[2]


Don't mind us people we are just a bunch of Marxist Socialist Communist from Kenya, the PC way of calling us a N*****




No, you want for the rest of the people to pay for your gas, your college education, your house, and everything else...


LOL I have a Job and paid off my tuition and I am just fine paying for my Gas, even own my home where do you come up with this crap?


Your PROGRESS is what brought us to where we are... after all it was thanks to PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS that the Feds and the IRS were put in power back in 1913...


You totally lost me there are you on something?



Cry?..
Naa, your movement hasn't gathered the numbers that the Tea Party has gathered, and you NEVER will...



Not the tea party, guess who ? It starts with a O and ends with a S and no it's not Obama




And the Tea Party hasn't been the one who gave the power to the bankers... it was YOUR PROGRESSIVE movement...


So we gave the bankers bailouts before we were even a Movement? Then we decided to do a 360 LOL


Get out of the closet already...


Homophobic too?
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