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Originally posted by Aeons
There are other options. Just because you aren't being presented with them, doesn't mean they don't exist.
However, many of the politicians in our nations are beholden to the very small group of people causing many of the problems.
Violent revolution tends to wreck things. I don't like the solutions many people are presenting. For example, I don't believe in a lack of a social contract like the Tea Party. I also have no interest in the remarketed communist state being floated by those marketing the Occupy movement. As for the religious nuts slathering on the sidelines, I trust them even less.
I'm not for full out smash and burn. I'd like to see a more surgical approach to a cancerous problem.
Now failing to address what even "They" know is a problem isn't acceptable. I'm not opposed to the French Revolution. Either we correct these people now, or the wider World is going to "correct" us at some point. Because while everyone is talking the One Percent, on a global level you and I ....we are the top Five Percent. More likely the top 3%.
If you were to project the problems and the demographics of the Bourgeois and the Royal-Right-To-Rule classes of Europe from the Enlightenment through to the Bolshevik Revolution onto the global stage today, what you would find is that you and I, we are the merchant class, the Earls, the Barons, the Counts, the Chevaliers.
Not getting the top 0.01% and the political laps dogs under control is going to eventually have the effect of the World wanting to put you and I to the guillotine.
They are clearly not acting in anyone's best interests but their own. From the Corporate Oligarchs, to the infamous "Military-Industrial-Complex." I say that as someone who isn't opposed military in any way. Nor am I opposed to capitalism.
There are WAY fewer of "them." And I'm not talking the 1%. I'm talking the 0.01%.
Many of the institutions your being told to hate over and over - those institutions are often working to fix these problems. The message to hate these agencies and economic actors is likely being funded by the 0.01% to favour their interests.
edit on 2011/10/26 by Aeons because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Master_007
Originally posted by rwfresh
So what are you waiting for? You seemed convinced violence will stop sick, ruthless, violent people...
And that it will lead to change. Or have you just given up and suicidal?
Don't know mate is the USA suicidal for all the wars it's starts but is unable to finish
Yes it's a fact of life that talk is cheap and if you want to stand up to thugs you need to meet force with force so i'm wating for nothing and will be available just as soon as i'm needed so no i've got the balls to stand up and fight for what's right so what about you or do you need another ten years of talking.
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
A very thought-provoking quote:
"Because revolution in our culture has always represented an attack on hierarchy, it has always meant upheaval--literally a heaving up from below. But upheaval has no role to play in moving beyond civilization. If the plane is in trouble, you don't shoot the pilot, you grab a parachute and jump. To overthrow the hierarchy is pointless; we just want to leave it behind."
- Daniel Quinn, Beyond Civilization
Provided, that is, they (or the system) "let" us walk away if we so choose...
Originally posted by rwfresh
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
A very thought-provoking quote:
"Because revolution in our culture has always represented an attack on hierarchy, it has always meant upheaval--literally a heaving up from below. But upheaval has no role to play in moving beyond civilization. If the plane is in trouble, you don't shoot the pilot, you grab a parachute and jump. To overthrow the hierarchy is pointless; we just want to leave it behind."
- Daniel Quinn, Beyond Civilization
Provided, that is, they (or the system) "let" us walk away if we so choose...
Let us? They don't have a choice. WE are part of the hierarchy. And the trick is, 99% of the hierarchy is WAITING for the freedom to walk away from it and into freedom.
This is how it happens. It is happening now. You don't have to do anything. Just stop supporting violence. And you are free NOW. Don't make excuses for them. Be brave. Without judgement. Be done with it. Demand Peace whenever the choice arrives.
Like on these message boards. When people declare violence is the answer, stand up and speak the truth. Violence is the current system, enforced by threat and supported out of fear. Be a brave one and it will fall apart. That is the change. That is evolution.